CLK550 vs E92 M3
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That's not an answer, it's a dodge. I can find you tons of vids where a C63 and M3 DCT run virtually neck and neck, so it stands to reason that if you can beat an M3, you can beat a C63, no?
Or does your car somehow magically only pull BMWs?
Simple questions, why not take a crack at answering them instead of dodging?
Also, why not answer how exactly it is that all of these major publications have gotten such markedly higher trap times and faster acceleration times in the M3? Conspiracy? Were the Euro publications I just cited in on this conspiracy? Dragtimes? Youtube? badblack with his 108.x trap?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Or does your car somehow magically only pull BMWs?
Simple questions, why not take a crack at answering them instead of dodging?
Also, why not answer how exactly it is that all of these major publications have gotten such markedly higher trap times and faster acceleration times in the M3? Conspiracy? Were the Euro publications I just cited in on this conspiracy? Dragtimes? Youtube? badblack with his 108.x trap?
Enquiring minds want to know.
The euro "publication" that you posted also says the information has been taken from
Link 1: audi.de
Link 2: bmw.de
Link 3: mercedes.de
^that mean manufacturer claims. And as has been in the past Mercedes has underrated its cars. And BMW has overrated them. So until you find me an actual test you cannont use that bull**** publication.
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Here is some more information, since my car doesnt have a single test. Ill add in the rest of the 550 lineup
2007 Mercedes CLS550
Curb weight: 4142 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.6 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 107 mph
Merc E550 Coupe
Curb weight: 3942 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.5 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 108 mph
BMW M3 Coupe 6speed
Curb Weight: 3650 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 10.4 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.9sec @ 111 mph
M3 Coupe with DCT
Curb weight: 3630 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.3 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.9 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 4.9 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.7 sec @ 113 mph
SO shouldnt the CLK550 be faster than the CLS550? It does have the same motor, tranny etc.
Heres the C63 with the developmental package BTW
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Curb Weight: 3992 lbs
Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.1 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 4.3 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.3 sec @ 117 mph
2007 Mercedes CLS550
Curb weight: 4142 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.6 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 107 mph
Merc E550 Coupe
Curb weight: 3942 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.5 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 108 mph
BMW M3 Coupe 6speed
Curb Weight: 3650 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 10.4 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.9sec @ 111 mph
M3 Coupe with DCT
Curb weight: 3630 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.3 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.9 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 4.9 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.7 sec @ 113 mph
SO shouldnt the CLK550 be faster than the CLS550? It does have the same motor, tranny etc.
Heres the C63 with the developmental package BTW
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Curb Weight: 3992 lbs
Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.1 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 4.3 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.3 sec @ 117 mph
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a quarter mile at a time
I listed the cars i have beaten 2 posts ago
The euro "publication" that you posted also says the information has been taken from
Link 1: audi.de
Link 2: bmw.de
Link 3: mercedes.de
^that mean manufacturer claims. And as has been in the past Mercedes has underrated its cars. And BMW has overrated them. So until you find me an actual test you cannont use that bull**** publication.
The euro "publication" that you posted also says the information has been taken from
Link 1: audi.de
Link 2: bmw.de
Link 3: mercedes.de
^that mean manufacturer claims. And as has been in the past Mercedes has underrated its cars. And BMW has overrated them. So until you find me an actual test you cannont use that bull**** publication.
You've got to be one of the most dilusional people I've seen at MBW. The absolute fastest 550 times are still slower than some of the slowest times for an M3. If you can't understand after all the credible evidence that a CLK550 will consistently be significantly slower than a M3, you're just being unrealistic.
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Hahah kbahl, you think you can take on a DCT M3? DCT in the M3 makes a big *** difference over the 6 speed manual M3. Even then, you should lose to a well driven 6 speed stick M3. Let alone a DCT M3 which you saw which was very close to the C63 AMG.
DCT and 6 speed manual M3 and C63 AMG >>>> CLK550 all day everyday in every condition. (Unless the M3/C63 AMG is not trying or they're going backwards LOL)
DCT and 6 speed manual M3 and C63 AMG >>>> CLK550 all day everyday in every condition. (Unless the M3/C63 AMG is not trying or they're going backwards LOL)
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I'd like to see 1 example of BMW overrating a performance spec on it's cars. Need I remind you how "overrated" a 335i is?
You've got to be one of the most dilusional people I've seen at MBW. The absolute fastest 550 times are still slower than some of the slowest times for an M3. If you can't understand after all the credible evidence that a CLK550 will consistently be significantly slower than a M3, you're just being unrealistic.
You've got to be one of the most dilusional people I've seen at MBW. The absolute fastest 550 times are still slower than some of the slowest times for an M3. If you can't understand after all the credible evidence that a CLK550 will consistently be significantly slower than a M3, you're just being unrealistic.
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Hahah kbahl, you think you can take on a DCT M3? DCT in the M3 makes a big *** difference over the 6 speed manual M3. Even then, you should lose to a well driven 6 speed stick M3. Let alone a DCT M3 which you saw which was very close to the C63 AMG.
DCT and 6 speed manual M3 and C63 AMG >>>> CLK550 all day everyday in every condition. (Unless the M3/C63 AMG is not trying or they're going backwards LOL)
DCT and 6 speed manual M3 and C63 AMG >>>> CLK550 all day everyday in every condition. (Unless the M3/C63 AMG is not trying or they're going backwards LOL)
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02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
On a side note I tried my buds stock E63(dead even to my stock C63) with my Clk55-which traps close to a Clk550. What a waste of time. The E63 was bus lengths ahead.
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I listed the cars i have beaten 2 posts ago
The euro "publication" that you posted also says the information has been taken from
Link 1: audi.de
Link 2: bmw.de
Link 3: mercedes.de
^that mean manufacturer claims. And as has been in the past Mercedes has underrated its cars. And BMW has overrated them. So until you find me an actual test you cannont use that bull**** publication.
The euro "publication" that you posted also says the information has been taken from
Link 1: audi.de
Link 2: bmw.de
Link 3: mercedes.de
^that mean manufacturer claims. And as has been in the past Mercedes has underrated its cars. And BMW has overrated them. So until you find me an actual test you cannont use that bull**** publication.
. For someone that supposedly attends a college, you sure have poor reading comprehension. The test cited was this:Test in ams Jahrbuch 2008
0 - 80 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,5 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,3 s
0 - 130 km/h 8,4 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,5 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,2 s
AMS is "Auto Motor und Sport". It was a magazine test, a comparison between the 335i, S5, and CLK 500 (550 here). Here is a scan of the article by the "BS publication" with the TEST NUMBERS they got for the car:
Interesting that the "BS publication" got precisely the same numbers I quoted above, namely because it isn't a "BS publication" but is AMS, one of the most respected auto magazines in the world.
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This is absolute . For someone that supposedly attends a college, you sure have poor reading comprehension. The test cited was this:
Test in ams Jahrbuch 2008
0 - 80 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,5 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,3 s
0 - 130 km/h 8,4 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,5 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,2 s
AMS is "Auto Motor und Sport". It was a magazine test, a comparison between the 335i, S5, and CLK 500 (550 here). Here is a scan of the article by the "BS publication" with the TEST NUMBERS they got for the car:
Interesting that the "BS publication" got precisely the same numbers I quoted above, namely because it isn't a "BS publication" but is AMS, one of the most respected auto magazines in the world.
. For someone that supposedly attends a college, you sure have poor reading comprehension. The test cited was this:Test in ams Jahrbuch 2008
0 - 80 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,5 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,3 s
0 - 130 km/h 8,4 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,5 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,2 s
AMS is "Auto Motor und Sport". It was a magazine test, a comparison between the 335i, S5, and CLK 500 (550 here). Here is a scan of the article by the "BS publication" with the TEST NUMBERS they got for the car:
Interesting that the "BS publication" got precisely the same numbers I quoted above, namely because it isn't a "BS publication" but is AMS, one of the most respected auto magazines in the world.
now, if you google translate what is said at the bottom of the page it says::
(Conditions data 2007, all data without guarantee) Left 1: audi.de Left 2: bmw.de Left 3: mercedes.de
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I'd like to see 1 example of BMW overrating a performance spec on it's cars. Need I remind you how "overrated" a 335i is?
You've got to be one of the most dilusional people I've seen at MBW. The absolute fastest 550 times are still slower than some of the slowest times for an M3. If you can't understand after all the credible evidence that a CLK550 will consistently be significantly slower than a M3, you're just being unrealistic.
You've got to be one of the most dilusional people I've seen at MBW. The absolute fastest 550 times are still slower than some of the slowest times for an M3. If you can't understand after all the credible evidence that a CLK550 will consistently be significantly slower than a M3, you're just being unrealistic.
Jon, why don't you get ahold of the dude in the DCT if you know him, and waste this clown, get it on vid so we can put this to bed. It'll be fun to watch, and plenty of us would love to see it.
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bottom of page http://www.einszweidrei.de/vt/vt-ams...00a-2007-1.htm
now, if you google translate what is said at the bottom of the page it says::
(Conditions data 2007, all data without guarantee) Left 1: audi.de Left 2: bmw.de Left 3: mercedes.de
now, if you google translate what is said at the bottom of the page it says::
(Conditions data 2007, all data without guarantee) Left 1: audi.de Left 2: bmw.de Left 3: mercedes.de
This article has also been cited in both the RS6 forum and the m3post forum by German speaking people who've read the TEST. Here's one post discussing the TEST:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...t=78676&page=2
Further, are you so totally dense and delusional that you didn't even happen to notice that the test data on the scanned test page I provided EXACTLY matches the data from einsdrei, the "BS" source you were assailing earlier?
Lordy, you are a piece of work. Are you related to Jangy?
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Yeah, I'll bet you will, just like you'll be delivering us these videos you keep promising.
But hey, how bout this: since you're so confident that you can wax any and all M3s to come your way, why not set up some races for some money? I'll guarantee you I can get some M3 follks to come your way for that kind of cash, care to put your money where your mouth is?
I mean, it's an opportunity for you to clean up! Your big bad 108 mph trap speed CLK550 will utterly thrash those 11x trapping M3s, so why not set something up?
But hey, how bout this: since you're so confident that you can wax any and all M3s to come your way, why not set up some races for some money? I'll guarantee you I can get some M3 follks to come your way for that kind of cash, care to put your money where your mouth is?
I mean, it's an opportunity for you to clean up! Your big bad 108 mph trap speed CLK550 will utterly thrash those 11x trapping M3s, so why not set something up?
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Yeah, I'll bet you will, just like you'll be delivering us these videos you keep promising.
But hey, how bout this: since you're so confident that you can wax any and all M3s to come your way, why not set up some races for some money? I'll guarantee you I can get some M3 follks to come your way for that kind of cash, care to put your money where your mouth is?
I mean, it's an opportunity for you to clean up! Your big bad 108 mph trap speed CLK550 will utterly thrash those 11x trapping M3s, so why not set something up?
But hey, how bout this: since you're so confident that you can wax any and all M3s to come your way, why not set up some races for some money? I'll guarantee you I can get some M3 follks to come your way for that kind of cash, care to put your money where your mouth is?
I mean, it's an opportunity for you to clean up! Your big bad 108 mph trap speed CLK550 will utterly thrash those 11x trapping M3s, so why not set something up?
That is my personal principal. I dont car how much s*** you talk about me or it, I will not race for money
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I dont car how fast or how slow a car is. i do not race for money. Money makes people do stupid things to win. From my own experiences i have learned that when money is on the line things get dangerous.
That is my personal principal. I dont car how much s*** you talk about me or it, I will not race for money
That is my personal principal. I dont car how much s*** you talk about me or it, I will not race for money
Come back when you have something to show other than talk. You're a troll, nothing more.
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and you are a ****in *******, nothing more. you go around to kill story threads ****ing with people. I told you i will race one and video tape it, idk wtf you dont understand about that. So why dont you get your head out of your ***
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As I said: come back when you've got something to show. You've been talking smack about beating M3s for months, but no video. You've been talking about how it's so incredibly fast for months, but no timeslip. You have yet to produce any evidence whatsoever that supports your claim, even your buddy's timeslip has a trap that's slower than the slowest stock M3 on dragtimes, well below the average M3's time, and not even in the same league as the fastest ones.
Just a bunch of hot air, nothing more The only person here stupid enough to believe you is, well, you.
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blow me
like i said in many posts, i go to school full time, i work on the side and i have a life. When the **** do u expect me to go out and race people. What do you want me to do huh, go looking for a race like some ****in *******. The times i did run one there were witnesses and im postive they wont answer on this thread since one of them is a sponsor and as far as the other member goes i havent even seen a post from him in months. I dont know what you dont understand but racing somebody from a roll is different than running a 1/4 from a dig.
So i reiterate my previous statement.
Blow Me
like i said in many posts, i go to school full time, i work on the side and i have a life. When the **** do u expect me to go out and race people. What do you want me to do huh, go looking for a race like some ****in *******. The times i did run one there were witnesses and im postive they wont answer on this thread since one of them is a sponsor and as far as the other member goes i havent even seen a post from him in months. I dont know what you dont understand but racing somebody from a roll is different than running a 1/4 from a dig.
So i reiterate my previous statement.
Blow Me
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More hot air. As I said: come back when you've got some proof of your extraordinarily ridiculous claims. All you and badblack do is go trolling internet forums bragging incessantly about how your CLKs are The Fastest Cars On The Planet, it's childish and a bunch of rubbish, from the veritable Johnny Appleseeds of .
We ain't buyin' what you're sellin', son. Whom do you think this is impressing, other than yourself?
. We ain't buyin' what you're sellin', son. Whom do you think this is impressing, other than yourself?
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and whom do you think you are impressing. you sit on the computer all day and go onto other peoples kill threads. What? big internet bully has a baby dick in real life so he has to act all tough over the internet. Real cool tough guy
What have you raced in your car?, have you ever run anything?... who the **** do you think you are
im not surrendering to your horse****
What have you raced in your car?, have you ever run anything?... who the **** do you think you are
im not surrendering to your horse****
