RMC RS4 Vs AutoDynamics C63
02-15-2012, 06:00 AM
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RMC RS4 Vs AutoDynamics C63
EDIT MRC RS4
The AUDI claims to have 700+ hp
The C63 has to have 560 hp on a Dyno Jet (AutoDynamics Tune, MHP Headers and Exhaust)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150673319570850
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150673440485850
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The AUDI claims to have 700+ hp
The C63 has to have 560 hp on a Dyno Jet (AutoDynamics Tune, MHP Headers and Exhaust)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150673319570850
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150673440485850
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02-15-2012, 11:37 AM
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B7 S4 with vortech blower
OP, any chance you have more info on the RS4? I'm wondering if it's the new TTS MRC kit, or an adapted PES kit with the M112 blower or other variant. Thanks for sharing either way!
02-15-2012, 05:01 PM
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its a rotrex sc i guess, but the top mount inter-coolers are very nice...
02-20-2012, 11:38 AM
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B7 S4 with vortech blower
^Some people are claiming it's the a variant of a PES blower, but MRC swapped a M112 in place of the M90 that it came with it (as the M90 is obviously undersized). But MRC is doing tuning for the new TTS kit which uses a rotex cfuge blower that is also top mount in the manifold.
Anyhow, there's been very little physical data shown so far about the TTS/MRC kit for the RS4 (and most likely S5 as well) other than some dyno claims and pictures of vbox screens, so this was an interesting video. That's why I was hoping for more information about the car, owner, video poster, etc. Just trying to figure anything out about it.
The car doesn't have the whine of a typical twin screw blower, but everything else is so loud in the video, who knows. If you come across any other information, it'd be great to have it posted up.
Anyhow, there's been very little physical data shown so far about the TTS/MRC kit for the RS4 (and most likely S5 as well) other than some dyno claims and pictures of vbox screens, so this was an interesting video. That's why I was hoping for more information about the car, owner, video poster, etc. Just trying to figure anything out about it.
The car doesn't have the whine of a typical twin screw blower, but everything else is so loud in the video, who knows. If you come across any other information, it'd be great to have it posted up.
02-20-2012, 03:58 PM
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video is apparently a scam, according to member 'horsepower' the TTS contact on the forums who built the Rotrex supercharger kit for the RS4.
1. they never claimed 700 hp (their dyno numbers were 480 whp or around 600 crank).
2. according to them, they have only installed a few TTS kits on cars, and this is not one of them
3. odd that it's on facebook somewhat anonymously...rather than on youtube.
So, there's an interesting story developing here. Will be interesting to see it play out.
http://audirevolution.net/forum/inde...10453#msg10453
1. they never claimed 700 hp (their dyno numbers were 480 whp or around 600 crank).
2. according to them, they have only installed a few TTS kits on cars, and this is not one of them
3. odd that it's on facebook somewhat anonymously...rather than on youtube.
So, there's an interesting story developing here. Will be interesting to see it play out.
http://audirevolution.net/forum/inde...10453#msg10453
Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER @ TTS
No way was this a TTS Rotrex anything. This is just some spurious video to discredit MRC and TTS. There's no shot under the hood to show it was even anything but stock.
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02-21-2012, 02:12 AM
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video is apparently a scam, according to member 'horsepower' the TTS contact on the forums who built the Rotrex supercharger kit for the RS4.
1. they never claimed 700 hp (their dyno numbers were 480 whp or around 600 crank).
2. according to them, they have only installed a few TTS kits on cars, and this is not one of them
3. odd that it's on facebook somewhat anonymously...rather than on youtube.
So, there's an interesting story developing here. Will be interesting to see it play out.
http://audirevolution.net/forum/inde...10453#msg10453
1. they never claimed 700 hp (their dyno numbers were 480 whp or around 600 crank).
2. according to them, they have only installed a few TTS kits on cars, and this is not one of them
3. odd that it's on facebook somewhat anonymously...rather than on youtube.
So, there's an interesting story developing here. Will be interesting to see it play out.
http://audirevolution.net/forum/inde...10453#msg10453
the intention is not to "dis out" OR scam anyone...
02-21-2012, 08:05 AM
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Sorry, didn't mean you were pulling a scam, figure of speech
1. Its not a tts or mrc kit. Its a pes kit, and pes supercharger kits are junk in the audi world.
2. They have nowhere near 700hp. More like 480-520 at the crank if they're lucky. They're scamming if they say 700 (and they got embarassed as a result).
That's the wagon, yes?
1. Its not a tts or mrc kit. Its a pes kit, and pes supercharger kits are junk in the audi world.
2. They have nowhere near 700hp. More like 480-520 at the crank if they're lucky. They're scamming if they say 700 (and they got embarassed as a result).
That's the wagon, yes?
02-21-2012, 08:25 AM
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i am sure it has the tts kit with the rotrex, the owner told us its a centrifugal blower, his friend was also boasting about the 25000 GBP the paid for it. i wish i popped a picture of the water-intercooler it was anodized red with TTS logo. The car has french plates, its a wagon.
02-21-2012, 08:34 AM
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Really? Wow. That kit is supposedly making 600 crank hp. There has been nothing but dyno numbers from the company but it should have been more effective than it was in this video.
Thanks for clarifying. You should post that on a5oc.com or the audirevolution.net thread I referenced.
For the record, that kit is supposed to make about 600 horsepower, however that is on the tuner's own dyno (MRC) so take that with a grain of salt. This dyno measures wheel horsepower then calculates drivetrain loss somehow and gives a total crank horsepower number. Common in the UK, but I think it's kind of useless. I'd much rather see wheel horsepower numbers since that's what I see from most dynos in the world, and thus its easier to compare that way. When dyno'd on a traditional hub dyno, I believe the TTS S5 made 470-480 whp.
Can you share more information on this Mercedes?
p.s. the TTS/MRC kit is expensive, but not that bad. About 13,000 pounds sterling. That owner is in pretty deep though, as this is the THIRD supercharger setup he has tried on his RS4.
Thanks for clarifying. You should post that on a5oc.com or the audirevolution.net thread I referenced.
For the record, that kit is supposed to make about 600 horsepower, however that is on the tuner's own dyno (MRC) so take that with a grain of salt. This dyno measures wheel horsepower then calculates drivetrain loss somehow and gives a total crank horsepower number. Common in the UK, but I think it's kind of useless. I'd much rather see wheel horsepower numbers since that's what I see from most dynos in the world, and thus its easier to compare that way. When dyno'd on a traditional hub dyno, I believe the TTS S5 made 470-480 whp.
Can you share more information on this Mercedes?
p.s. the TTS/MRC kit is expensive, but not that bad. About 13,000 pounds sterling. That owner is in pretty deep though, as this is the THIRD supercharger setup he has tried on his RS4.
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02-21-2012, 11:20 PM
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Well, after some fact checking the rs4 owner's tuning company now claim:
1. The op shouldn't have seen anything red...the only tts Audi with a red cover is the owner of tts' own car, but its an S5. This kit on this french wagon is all aluminium, no red, no red logo.
2. This pull saw the rs4 start at an rpm range that wasn't optimal, thus the lopsided result
3. They did a second pull in a better rpm range and the rs4 won that one handily ( by 2 car lengths).
All sounds odd to me...the rs4 appeared to start at 4000 rpm which isn't terrible...and the fact it could turn that beatdown into a win is surprising.
Ahmed...any thoughts on these claims?
This, according to the tuning company selling the kit, who spoke to the rs4 car owner
At this point the whole thing seems a bit odd.
1. The op shouldn't have seen anything red...the only tts Audi with a red cover is the owner of tts' own car, but its an S5. This kit on this french wagon is all aluminium, no red, no red logo.
2. This pull saw the rs4 start at an rpm range that wasn't optimal, thus the lopsided result
3. They did a second pull in a better rpm range and the rs4 won that one handily ( by 2 car lengths).
All sounds odd to me...the rs4 appeared to start at 4000 rpm which isn't terrible...and the fact it could turn that beatdown into a win is surprising.
Ahmed...any thoughts on these claims?
This, according to the tuning company selling the kit, who spoke to the rs4 car owner
At this point the whole thing seems a bit odd.
02-22-2012, 02:33 AM
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Well, after some fact checking the rs4 owner's tuning company now claim:
1. The op shouldn't have seen anything red...the only tts Audi with a red cover is the owner of tts' own car, but its an S5. This kit on this french wagon is all aluminium, no red, no red logo.
2. This pull saw the rs4 start at an rpm range that wasn't optimal, thus the lopsided result
3. They did a second pull in a better rpm range and the rs4 won that one handily ( by 2 car lengths).
All sounds odd to me...the rs4 appeared to start at 4000 rpm which isn't terrible...and the fact it could turn that beatdown into a win is surprising.
Ahmed...any thoughts on these claims?
This, according to the tuning company selling the kit, who spoke to the rs4 car owner
At this point the whole thing seems a bit odd.
1. The op shouldn't have seen anything red...the only tts Audi with a red cover is the owner of tts' own car, but its an S5. This kit on this french wagon is all aluminium, no red, no red logo.
2. This pull saw the rs4 start at an rpm range that wasn't optimal, thus the lopsided result
3. They did a second pull in a better rpm range and the rs4 won that one handily ( by 2 car lengths).
All sounds odd to me...the rs4 appeared to start at 4000 rpm which isn't terrible...and the fact it could turn that beatdown into a win is surprising.
Ahmed...any thoughts on these claims?
This, according to the tuning company selling the kit, who spoke to the rs4 car owner
At this point the whole thing seems a bit odd.
Regarding the Supercharger, i wont go there because it my word, let the car owner show us a pic.
i dunno what the whole story is about, this is street racing, you win some you loose some... right? to win a race you need good driver, good traction good HP and torque ...
the owner and his friend first wanted to race with my friend's 996 Porsche GT2 Switzer P800+, we told them to hold their horses let try with something withing their league first.
02-22-2012, 10:16 AM
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yup they ran more than once (six in total), a couple of times the RS4 won, due to the C63 losing traction in first. The RS4 owner was not launching on the third honk, the two videos are the best wins, and the the other two was a couple of cars length difference. in the c63 if you loose traction in first gear the second gear engages prematurely and you probably need much more power to gain back the difference.
Regarding the Supercharger, i wont go there because it my word, let the car owner show us a pic.
i dunno what the whole story is about, this is street racing, you win some you loose some... right? to win a race you need good driver, good traction good HP and torque ...
the owner and his friend first wanted to race with my friend's 996 Porsche GT2 Switzer P800+, we told them to hold their horses let try with something withing their league first.
Regarding the Supercharger, i wont go there because it my word, let the car owner show us a pic.
i dunno what the whole story is about, this is street racing, you win some you loose some... right? to win a race you need good driver, good traction good HP and torque ...
the owner and his friend first wanted to race with my friend's 996 Porsche GT2 Switzer P800+, we told them to hold their horses let try with something withing their league first.
I'm an Audi guy with an RS4, so I'm trying to learn about the TTS kit. From the sounds of it the Rs4 only stood a chance if the C63 screwed up.
If this is a near stock C63 that means bad things for TTS, the SC kit maker and MRC the tuner that wrote the ECU callibration. If this is a highly modified C63 capable of an 11.4 second quarter mile, it's a little less bad for the RS4 kit.
Can you tell me more about the C63? How about passenger weight in the cars? How about the other videos of the other runs...can you post those up?
thanks for your patience.
02-22-2012, 05:44 PM
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well said
I'm an Audi guy with an RS4, so I'm trying to learn about the TTS kit. From the sounds of it the Rs4 only stood a chance if the C63 screwed up.
If this is a near stock C63 that means bad things for TTS, the SC kit maker and MRC the tuner that wrote the ECU callibration. If this is a highly modified C63 capable of an 11.4 second quarter mile, it's a little less bad for the RS4 kit.
Can you tell me more about the C63? How about passenger weight in the cars? How about the other videos of the other runs...can you post those up?
thanks for your patience.
I'm an Audi guy with an RS4, so I'm trying to learn about the TTS kit. From the sounds of it the Rs4 only stood a chance if the C63 screwed up.
If this is a near stock C63 that means bad things for TTS, the SC kit maker and MRC the tuner that wrote the ECU callibration. If this is a highly modified C63 capable of an 11.4 second quarter mile, it's a little less bad for the RS4 kit.
Can you tell me more about the C63? How about passenger weight in the cars? How about the other videos of the other runs...can you post those up?
thanks for your patience.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150693978710850
these guys have a dyno jet dyno sheet claiming 700+ hp (don't ask the owner to publish it) but it has very peaky hp... low rpms its slow, after 4000 rpm it wakes up the 700 hp are from 7000 to 8000 rpm
as u see the c63 out ran him rolling 50 the distance is 700 meters
the c63 has an aggressive tune, MHP headers, mid pipes and exhaust also decated.
C63 has the normal weight (no weight reduction), driver is average weight. it runs on 93 oct (98 RON) pump gas.
