ohya

What the hell are you going to do with a C320. A3.2L engine produce 215hp. Anyway you modified a 330 will be faster.
If M3 has a S/C in it, I think C32 should step back. It's low tech compare to the M. Just by saying M3 is a maxed out engine tells me how much you know about cars.
Please don't tell me 5.5 or 6.6 engines. **** I smell something again. Got to go, next door cooking curry again.

Ahmed

ohya

As long as they don't make something like a C230 for younger crowd. That car is a joke.

Jon200

To a certain extent, the C320 and 330i are only comparable for the sake of marketing. Technically, they are totally different cars with different engines. The 3.2L V6 is fairly old with 3 valves, single cam and no valve timing. The Bimmer 3L I6 has plenty of engine work done to it, Double-Vanos, Valvetronic etc etc.

No point modifying a 330i or Ci because the engine is made famous for its smoothness, you defeat the purpose of buying a Bimmer I6 when you supercharge it.

With the M3. The Bimmer M department did admit theres nothing more they can do to the E45 M3 engine without further increasing its capacity. Compression ratio in the current model is also slightly higher than then the previous one. It is also damn silly to s/c the M3 because it is one of the BEST engines out there in stock form.

my 2 cents

ohya

Sure 330 has a plenty of engine work so it cannot be compare to the C320. But AHMED there want to mouth off about these two cars. I guess you prove a point.
Modifying BMW is a big purpose for some people that owns it. Even a little can change alot. Especially the 330 S/C from AA.

Teck

ohya

Sorry man one question. You're in a MBZ forum and talking about BMW and they are better than MBZ. So what are you driving and why did you choose it?

ohya

I didn't say it's better or worse about the MB. I'm just responding to threads. I have both cars. I can say I can beat your no problem.

IdriveFast

since we're talking aftermarket, i think a stageII C32 could take a SC M3 on a roll. and would also be alot cheaper.

jus thought id point that out

ldangeli

Why would you not use MBWorld as a measure of MBZ owners? I don't understand that? Isn't this forum FOR owners of MB's? This is the most popular MB forum out there, and while it may not be a 100% accurate indication of MB owners, it sure is close to it, no? There was an article in the STAR magazine about a year ago, that specifically stated that MB designers had shifted focus for a "new generation" of MB drivers. Meaning, the 25-35 crowd. Why? To compete and mass produce, and to gain shares in the auto-market..

While MB still has an air of quality and prestige, it is certainly geared towards a youthful generation..

Sleestack

Just because MBworld is a forum for MB owners, it doesn't necessarily mean most MB owners are going to be here. Of the dozens of MB drivers in our extended family, I'm the only one who even knows about MBworld. In fact, I think MBworld would completely skew the picture of MB owners b/c younger owners are more likely to be using the internet to find forums like MBworld.

While MB has definitely come out with cheaper and more sporty models to target younger buyers, I would hardly say they have shifted their focus to the younger buyer. Perhaps they have expanded their focus to include the younger driver, however, I don't see how $70K cars could realistically be marketed to the younger generation. The consumer base for $70K+ cars is just not strong enough in that segment.

ohya

A S/C to a S/C is fair to say. C32 is nothing without S/C in the first place.

Jon200

True true, but a M3 without Double Vanos, Valvetronic, high compression ration etc is also nothing

I don't mind people post kill stories, this is precisely what this thread is for but it always turns out that the cars involved in the race re compared and the topic is beaten to death

ohya

Do you think without the double vanos will be less power then a S/C???

Vomit

Some people from B.C. speak English. . .
Some people from B.C. speak French. . .
Some people from B.C. speak neither. . .

Oh Ya! (eh)

FrankW

Teck

LMAO

FrankW

obviously you're just trolling around. Like I've said before, high revving NA, Supercharging, Turbocharging, or simply just make a bigger displacement engine are all just different way of making efficient horsepower. i.e. you can have a high revving 3.2 produce 333hp and a supercharged s/c produce 349hp or you can have a 4.2 V8 making 344hp.

there's no point to say this is unfair blah blah blah because not even in GT racing they all have the same type of engines. i.e. Viper GTS-R running w/ V10 while C5-R runs w/ V8 and Porsche run their flat-6 all in the same catagory of cars.

AMG FANATIC

Jon200

No I wouldn't, both C32 and E46 M3 blocks have had their share of trophies throughout the years, they are equally good engines therefore people compare them.

It's just pure rubbish to discuss car engines by 'minusing this and that'. RB26DETT and 2JZ are nothing without the twin turbo is that correct?

C32 is a 3.2L V6 S/C, it came like this and buyers accept it.

People obvious know nothing about AMG if they say the C32 is a S/C-ed C320. Thats just like saying the M3 is a fattened 330Ci.

Virtually all modern car makers are crazy about horsepower, so it does not matter how they are made, but how much is made.

cheers

Ahmed

excellent post!

IdriveFast

look bmw and mb jus chose different routes

bmw has a high compression n/a, mb has a low compression s/c

like frank said, they're jus different methods


u no wut u r? U R IGNORANT!

ohya

What was that? You're an As shole???
Sorry about my english, french, or neither.

Vomit

The word "arsehole" is never capitalized.
The word "English" is always capitalized.
The word "French" is always capitalized.

Thank you for proving my point.

P.S. Lighten up guy. . . you are on an MBZ forum touting the merits of BMW. What do you expect?

ohya

Frank is a fruit anyway. I guess you only knows how car a difference but you know nothing about comparison. We all know that BMW is a high compression and mb is low compression S/C. Tell me something I don't know. IGNORANT!!!

ohya

I capitalizedddd to let you know how much of an A******* you are!!!