M&M

[QUOTE=M5 RUS][QUOTE=Ahmed]However, I am curious to know how the C55 compares to the M3 off the line!
I think C55 will kill M3SMG from the lights...if it does not spin too much...
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I have run one with an E46 M3 & I spun like crazy & the C55 didn't. I raced him 4 times. I won by a minimum of half a second every time. I have a video as well.

M&M

I must add that I think the kill story is very plausible. I have seen M5's battle with traction on the street & M3's & C32's beat them on a shortish sprint. But when you go over 100mph, it starts to move.

BenzoAMGpower

[QUOTE=M&M][QUOTE=M5 RUS]thats odd b/c the C55 has a 107mph trap speed while my C32 in its stock form has a 105mph trap speed... yet when i was stock ive raced plenty of E46 M3s, both stick and SMG, both from a dig and from a roll... ive never lost.. now that Im slightly modded, I just toast them w/o even trying!!!

IdriveFast

i do not believe BenzoAMGpower...everybody knows that the E46 M3 is UNBEATABLE!!!!!!

Its one of the worlds great super cars!!!

Maclaren F1
Pagoni Zonda
Ferrari Enzo


and

E46 M3!!!!!!!!!!!

nobody can beat the mighty m3!!!

M&M

Boy are you guys going to eat your words. Here's the video of me vs my buddy's C55 at a strip at 5000ft elevation:

http://64.191.54.129/mid/M3VSC55.avi

And I ran 13.0 @ 108 at a sea-level track BONE STOCK! Put that in your pipe & smoke it. I have never lost to a C32 or C55 & I have a few buddies with them.

And if that sounds like science fiction have a look at Road & Track, Car & Driver & Motortrend's numbers. C32 & C55 are still slower than there test of the 6MT manual. Even the M3's trap speeds are higher than C32 & C55 according to all those magazines (6MT not SMG).

Now I don't wan't to get flamed, but tell me, is it not possible for an E46 M3 to beat a C32 & C55 (assuming I didn't have the evidence) just because you drive one? I drive an M3 & I accept that its possible for an M3 to lose to both those cars. I've seen it happen. At our strips sometimes the C32 wins, sometimes the M3's win. But put good drivers in both cars & USUALLY the M3 wins. Note I said usually. Add to that the fact that almost every mag everwhere on planet earth has tested the M3 quicker.

Australian, European, etc. have M3 quicker even to 130mph & pulling away. Do you want me to post links to Sport Auto, Track-challenge, etc.

Racing an auto against a manual with a driver that doesn't know what he's doing will be murder. On the highway that can also be the case. But if the M3 driver is an enthusiast, he will notice the difference between a C180 & a C32/C55 in his rear view mirror. He will slowly downshift to the right gear & be sitting at 6000rpm waiting for the gap to open. As soon as he hears the Merc's slushbox kickdown (which takes a second or so), he will go full throttle & with the NA throttle respsonse advantage will be gone.

Of course if you're in the wrong gear, the slushbox will already be pulling & then it's hard to catch a fast car with momentum on its side. But on the road encounters aren't scientific enough to prove anything. Who knows if the onther car is even running to spec.

FrankW

you forgot the little detail about your 95/101 octane mixed fuel again.

M&M

Yeah I'm not gonna' lie Frank. I had good fuel. But it doesn't make a difference to your times on an NA car. It might give 0.5mph more but that's it.

Anyway, if you see how the C55 driver lined up, its obvious he's an experienced racer. He might have had good fuel as well.

BenzoAMGpower

good kill... but id love to see you line up with my buddies C55 here in FL!!!

MiamiAMG

BRING IT!!!!!! :v

Jon200

So ur M3 is too good for C32 or C55 then because the C55 had an 'experienced' driver and you still kaned it yeah?

FrankW

then why were u running higher octane fuel?

the rest are just your assumption. a guy could've just go to the track twice and learn how to line up at the start.

yellowslk

Ahmed

amazing how people just look for the slightest window to bring up an arguement as an excuse!

sorry but the auto gearbox on the mercs are a waste of time!

BenzC32

Reading your meaningless post is really a waste of time. :p

Ahmed

come to think of it.... you're right!

Jon200

Mercs don't make pure performance vehicles that's why they still don't put manual into their cars. You think Benz don't see this??

Ahmed

who the hell am i to think that? Ask them!

Jon200

the answer is obvious but you don't see it. The autos in Benz are good, handles a lot of torque

Ahmed

yeah yeah yeah!

so they say!

BenzoAMGpower

KILLERLEXUS

c55 beat M5 ?

Improviz

Yes, absolutely. Have you seen this month's Car & Driver?
Car & Driver's test of C55: 0-60: 4.7; 1/4: 13.3 @ 108

Did you see last May's Car & Driver?
Car & Driver's most recent test of M5: 0-60: 4.9; 1/4: 13.4 @ 108

So, exactly what are you rolling your eyes at?

FrankW

yup, it's pretty much like putting a more powerful engine that was in the W210 E55 which was only marginally slower than the e39 M5 into a much smaller and lighter car. Even the e46 M3 would sometimes get better off the line time than the e39 M5. However I'm pretty sure up top the M5 would edge out the C55 because of more hp to pull the car.

adx

Quite an exaggerated quote "half throttle" since I personally know how the G35 coupe runs. Also, I have raced an S2000 and had no problems beating him in my G35 coupe.

dmzz

I love magazine racing!