Rim/Tires w164 ML 2006
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Rim/Tires w164 ML 2006
Hello,
In the new W164, I can choose 2 tire sizes:
a) 8J * 18 ET60 255/55 R18
b) 8.5J * 19 ET58 255/50 R19
I wanted something wider like the 275 that the W163 has as an option but this one don't have.
Will this ones work?
8,5x18 und 9,5x18, ET 35, LK 5/112
Why is the ET so different?
Best Regards,
Ruben.
In the new W164, I can choose 2 tire sizes:
a) 8J * 18 ET60 255/55 R18
b) 8.5J * 19 ET58 255/50 R19
I wanted something wider like the 275 that the W163 has as an option but this one don't have.
Will this ones work?
8,5x18 und 9,5x18, ET 35, LK 5/112
Why is the ET so different?
Best Regards,
Ruben.
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I believe you can change the tires to wider sizes. The new ML63 have 20" wheels standard.
The sizes that you mentioned (18x8.5/9.5 ET35) will not work because the offsets are way off. And I think those are sizes for cars, not SUVs. You require much higher loading capacity on the SUVs.
The sizes that you mentioned (18x8.5/9.5 ET35) will not work because the offsets are way off. And I think those are sizes for cars, not SUVs. You require much higher loading capacity on the SUVs.
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8*18 can support a wider tire than 255?
In my sportcoupe 7.5 is for 225 and 8.5 is for 245
It's strange for me that stock 8*18 rims support 255. Do this work different in 4*4?
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In my sportcoupe 7.5 is for 225 and 8.5 is for 245
It's strange for me that stock 8*18 rims support 255. Do this work different in 4*4?
Best Regards.
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Originally Posted by rubensans
8*18 can support a wider tire than 255?
In my sportcoupe 7.5 is for 225 and 8.5 is for 245
It's strange for me that stock 8*18 rims support 255. Do this work different in 4*4?
Best Regards.
In my sportcoupe 7.5 is for 225 and 8.5 is for 245
It's strange for me that stock 8*18 rims support 255. Do this work different in 4*4?
Best Regards.
That being said, I would recommend a wider rim than stock if you are going 275s or 285s, something in the 9" - 10" (for 285s) range will give better road handling, still adequate curb protection and look better.
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If been reading a lot about this.
I have 2 options when I buy the car:
1) Mercedes Double Spoke 8J*18 ET60 (1267€)
2) AMG 8.5J*19 ET58 (2816€)
I want a wider tire than 255; I won't do agresive driving in this car (I have the sportcoupe for this).
Since the W164 wheel arches are very big, I thing it will be better to get 19's.
In 18' I found this:
In 19' I found this:
The data between () is the min rim width.
Do you know If 275 or 285 tires will rub without puting spacers?
About increase in overall diameter, will 742mm, 787mm or 799mm be a problem? I think It shouldn't since in the photos it's seems to be a lot of clearance.
I will have Airmatic.
Best Regards.
I have 2 options when I buy the car:
1) Mercedes Double Spoke 8J*18 ET60 (1267€)
2) AMG 8.5J*19 ET58 (2816€)
I want a wider tire than 255; I won't do agresive driving in this car (I have the sportcoupe for this).
Since the W164 wheel arches are very big, I thing it will be better to get 19's.
In 18' I found this:
8*18 ET60 255/55 18 737.69 mm exterior diameter (STOCK)
275/60 (7.5) 787.2 mm exterior diameter
285/50 (8) 742.19 mm exterior diameter
285/60 (8) 799.19 mm exterior diameter
275/60 (7.5) 787.2 mm exterior diameter
285/50 (8) 742.19 mm exterior diameter
285/60 (8) 799.19 mm exterior diameter
8.5*19 ET58 255/50 19 737.59 exterior diameter
275/45 (8.5) 730.1 mm exterior diameter
285/45 (9) 739.09 mm exterior diameter
285/45 (8) 739.09 mm exterior diameter (pirelli scorpion zero asimetric).
275/45 (8.5) 730.1 mm exterior diameter
285/45 (9) 739.09 mm exterior diameter
285/45 (8) 739.09 mm exterior diameter (pirelli scorpion zero asimetric).
Do you know If 275 or 285 tires will rub without puting spacers?
About increase in overall diameter, will 742mm, 787mm or 799mm be a problem? I think It shouldn't since in the photos it's seems to be a lot of clearance.
I will have Airmatic.
Best Regards.
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Originally Posted by rubensans
If been reading a lot about this.
I have 2 options when I buy the car:
1) Mercedes Double Spoke 8J*18 ET60 (1267€)
2) AMG 8.5J*19 ET58 (2816€)
I want a wider tire than 255; I won't do agresive driving in this car (I have the sportcoupe for this).
Since the W164 wheel arches are very big, I thing it will be better to get 19's.
The data between () is the min rim width.
Do you know If 275 or 285 tires will rub without puting spacers?
About increase in overall diameter, will 742mm, 787mm or 799mm be a problem? I think It shouldn't since in the photos it's seems to be a lot of clearance.
I will have Airmatic.
Best Regards.
I have 2 options when I buy the car:
1) Mercedes Double Spoke 8J*18 ET60 (1267€)
2) AMG 8.5J*19 ET58 (2816€)
I want a wider tire than 255; I won't do agresive driving in this car (I have the sportcoupe for this).
Since the W164 wheel arches are very big, I thing it will be better to get 19's.
The data between () is the min rim width.
Do you know If 275 or 285 tires will rub without puting spacers?
About increase in overall diameter, will 742mm, 787mm or 799mm be a problem? I think It shouldn't since in the photos it's seems to be a lot of clearance.
I will have Airmatic.
Best Regards.
Until a number of vehicles get into owners' and tuners' hands, it's a bit of a guess at this point. I would wait a few months and let others figure out the optimum sizes and what will clear.
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Thanks for your answer.
Then as far as I could see I have to wait to know if 285 19' will clear.
The problem is that I have to put the other in june and don't know if I get the 19 AMG ones or the 18 ones and in future brabus/lorinser/carlsoon....
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Then as far as I could see I have to wait to know if 285 19' will clear.
The problem is that I have to put the other in june and don't know if I get the 19 AMG ones or the 18 ones and in future brabus/lorinser/carlsoon....
Best Regards.
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Originally Posted by rubensans
Thanks for your answer.
Then as far as I could see I have to wait to know if 285 19' will clear.
The problem is that I have to put the other in june and don't know if I get the 19 AMG ones or the 18 ones and in future brabus/lorinser/carlsoon....
Best Regards.
Then as far as I could see I have to wait to know if 285 19' will clear.
The problem is that I have to put the other in june and don't know if I get the 19 AMG ones or the 18 ones and in future brabus/lorinser/carlsoon....
Best Regards.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
The reason for wider rims is to provide better support for a tire in cornering. Since SUVs have may have other demands than cornering, yes, they are a little different. You can go to the tire rack website and look at a number of tire specs (Prielli Scorpion Zero, Michelin Diamantis, etc.) and see what the recommended rim range is. 8" rims can handle up to 285s for some.
That being said, I would recommend a wider rim than stock if you are going 275s or 285s, something in the 9" - 10" (for 285s) range will give better road handling, still adequate curb protection and look better.
That being said, I would recommend a wider rim than stock if you are going 275s or 285s, something in the 9" - 10" (for 285s) range will give better road handling, still adequate curb protection and look better.
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Originally Posted by TNblkc230wz
Also, the 55 series tires require a narrower rim than a 40 series tire in relation to the tire's width.
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Can you explain me this better "Also, the 55 series tires require a narrower rim than a 40 series tire in relation to the tire's width.".
Sorry, My english is not as good as I want it to be.
Best Regards.
Sorry, My english is not as good as I want it to be.
Best Regards.
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Originally Posted by rubensans
Can you explain me this better "Also, the 55 series tires require a narrower rim than a 40 series tire in relation to the tire's width.".
Sorry, My english is not as good as I want it to be.
Best Regards.
Sorry, My english is not as good as I want it to be.
Best Regards.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
That was not stated clearly-the width of the tire determines the width of the rim, not the aspect ratio, whcih is what the 55- and 40 series designations are. But since, to maintain a given outside diameter you must go wider with a smaller aspect ratio, that also means the rim should get wider. So, it's all related.
I have 315 wide tires on an 8" rim. This is 75 aspect ratio. The same tire in a 30 series aspect ratio will generally require a 11" rim (manufacturers' requirements will vary).
For my M-class, I had 285 width tires on a 9" rim; this was easily within specification for most manufacturers. On my CLK, 285 width tires require a 9.5" rim. The main difference here is the aspect ratio, as most manufacturers have similar width requirements in these sizes.
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Hello,
Then If I'm not wrong I have these options if I want to keep original rims:
18:
RIM: 8J*18 ET 60
19:
RIM: 8.5*19 ET 58
Sugestions?
How can I know If I will have enough clearance to put this tires right know?
Which offset will give me a better clearance? ET58 or ET60?
Best Regards.
Then If I'm not wrong I have these options if I want to keep original rims:
18:
RIM: 8J*18 ET 60
Continental CrossContact UHP 109W SL
285/50 WR18
Rim Sizes: 8-->10
Michelin Diamaris 109W SL
285/50 WR18
Rim Sizes: 8-->10
Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico 109W SL
285/50 WR18
Rim Sizes: 8-->10
285/50 WR18
Rim Sizes: 8-->10
Michelin Diamaris 109W SL
285/50 WR18
Rim Sizes: 8-->10
Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico 109W SL
285/50 WR18
Rim Sizes: 8-->10
RIM: 8.5*19 ET 58
Michelin Diamaris 107V SL
285/45 VR19
Rim Sizes: 9-->10.5
Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico 107V SL
285/45 VR19
Rim Sizes: 8-->10
285/45 VR19
Rim Sizes: 9-->10.5
Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico 107V SL
285/45 VR19
Rim Sizes: 8-->10
Michelin Diamaris 108Y XL
275/45 YR19
Rim Sizes: 8.5-->10.5
Continental CrossContact UHP 108Y XL
275/45 YR19
Rim Sizes: 8.5-->10.5
275/45 YR19
Rim Sizes: 8.5-->10.5
Continental CrossContact UHP 108Y XL
275/45 YR19
Rim Sizes: 8.5-->10.5
How can I know If I will have enough clearance to put this tires right know?
Which offset will give me a better clearance? ET58 or ET60?
Best Regards.
Last edited by rubensans; 04-28-2005 at 05:19 PM.
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Originally Posted by rubensans
Can you explain me this better "Also, the 55 series tires require a narrower rim than a 40 series tire in relation to the tire's width.".
Sorry, My english is not as good as I want it to be.
Best Regards.
Sorry, My english is not as good as I want it to be.
Best Regards.
Therefore, a 255/40 with a 4.01 inch (102 mm) sidewall will require an 8 - 9.5 inch rim and a 255/55 with a 5.52 inch (140 mm) sidewall will require a 7 - 9 inch rim. The 55 series tire has a lot more sidewall to move around.
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Originally Posted by rubensans
Hello,
Then If I'm not wrong I have these options if I want to keep original rims:
18:
RIM: 8J*18 ET 60
If the stock offset is 60, a 58mm offset will probably work. check the clearance around the caliper and tire to struck clearance. If you have more than 4 mm, it will probably clear. No guarentees though.
I can tell you my C class with AMG brakes doesn't have the extra 2 mm nor do the 05s with the bigger brakes, so look close.
19:
RIM: 8.5*19 ET 58
Sugestions?
How can I know If I will have enough clearance to put this tires right know?
Which offset will give me a better clearance? ET58 or ET60?
Best Regards.
Then If I'm not wrong I have these options if I want to keep original rims:
18:
RIM: 8J*18 ET 60
If the stock offset is 60, a 58mm offset will probably work. check the clearance around the caliper and tire to struck clearance. If you have more than 4 mm, it will probably clear. No guarentees though.
I can tell you my C class with AMG brakes doesn't have the extra 2 mm nor do the 05s with the bigger brakes, so look close.
19:
RIM: 8.5*19 ET 58
Sugestions?
How can I know If I will have enough clearance to put this tires right know?
Which offset will give me a better clearance? ET58 or ET60?
Best Regards.
I can tell you my C class with AMG brakes doesn't have the extra 2 mm nor do the 05s with the bigger brakes, so look close.