Merc all-season mats stink, what's better?
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
ML320 (W163)
Merc all-season mats stink, what's better?
I got a set of the Mercedes all-season mats (Black, thanks to advice in this forum). The fronts are fine, but the backs are pathetic.
The all-season mats on the W163 are worlds better. They are carefully shaped to cover the carpet from the door sill all the way to the center tunnel, and are fitted around the various features of the floor (and even hvae a nice logo). The W164 mats are barely more than little rectangles, leaving lots of carpet exposed fto grind winter grime.
Anyone have a recommendation for a decent set of all-season mats? I looked at the Mercedes floor liners, but didn't like the hard and plasticky material.
Thanks
The all-season mats on the W163 are worlds better. They are carefully shaped to cover the carpet from the door sill all the way to the center tunnel, and are fitted around the various features of the floor (and even hvae a nice logo). The W164 mats are barely more than little rectangles, leaving lots of carpet exposed fto grind winter grime.
Anyone have a recommendation for a decent set of all-season mats? I looked at the Mercedes floor liners, but didn't like the hard and plasticky material.
Thanks
Super Member
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 863
Likes: 2
From: Chicago
Suzuki Burgman Executive
Came to the same conclusion so I bought my mats from Weather Tech. They werent cheep but they are fantastic.
http://www.weathertech.com/store/mvp...tChoiceIds=814
http://www.weathertech.com/store/mvp...tChoiceIds=814
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,308
Likes: 35
From: Atlanta, GA USA
2000 MB G500 NMLE, 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI Prestige
Want the Best?
Go with Cocoa Mats:
http://cocomats.com/
They hold dirt and slop like no others; and keep your feet dry while doing it.
http://cocomats.com/
They hold dirt and slop like no others; and keep your feet dry while doing it.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,308
Likes: 35
From: Atlanta, GA USA
2000 MB G500 NMLE, 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI Prestige
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
ML320 (W163)
Weathertech Liners highly recommended
If you need that covered as well you should go with Weathertech's digital-fit series.
Trending Topics
Newbie
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
1998 Toyota Corolla; 1998 E320; 2007 ML 350; 2013 Toyota Sienna; 2005 300C Hemi (Sold)
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)
Verdad Gallardo
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
From: USA
2010 ML550 (W164)
old vs. new
Sorry to dredge up an old post but...
The current W164 All Season Mats really suck compared to the old W163 All Season Mats. The old ones were blacker, thicker/heavier duty, and most importantly they fit so much better compared to these new ones. Its like MB avoided the precision needed for a good fit by instead opting for a wide margin of unprotected carpet around the edges. And don't even get me started on the pathetic little squares for the back seats...
Bah humbug!
The current W164 All Season Mats really suck compared to the old W163 All Season Mats. The old ones were blacker, thicker/heavier duty, and most importantly they fit so much better compared to these new ones. Its like MB avoided the precision needed for a good fit by instead opting for a wide margin of unprotected carpet around the edges. And don't even get me started on the pathetic little squares for the back seats...
Bah humbug!
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,308
Likes: 35
From: Atlanta, GA USA
2000 MB G500 NMLE, 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI Prestige
Sorry to dredge up an old post but...
The current W164 All Season Mats really suck compared to the old W163 All Season Mats. The old ones were blacker, thicker/heavier duty, and most importantly they fit so much better compared to these new ones. Its like MB avoided the precision needed for a good fit by instead opting for a wide margin of unprotected carpet around the edges. And don't even get me started on the pathetic little squares for the back seats...
Bah humbug!
The current W164 All Season Mats really suck compared to the old W163 All Season Mats. The old ones were blacker, thicker/heavier duty, and most importantly they fit so much better compared to these new ones. Its like MB avoided the precision needed for a good fit by instead opting for a wide margin of unprotected carpet around the edges. And don't even get me started on the pathetic little squares for the back seats...
Bah humbug!
Junior Member
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
2009 ML350
+1..! do a little homework.. how hard is it to find a good solution, when you have an actual factory option available. and for those recommending weathertech, it might interest you to know that the liners are actually MADE by weathertech. the ONLY bad thing i have to say about them is they don't cover the dead pedal, which is stupid and annoying
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
From: USA
2010 ML550 (W164)
-1 on that statement, if it was directed at me. My homework was 10 years of being satisfied with the previous factory all-season mats and expected at least the same from MB this time around. People buying the liners are complaining that they still don't fit 100%, slide a little, and their feet get caught on the lip upon entry/exit, so it seemed like a no-brainer 
to pay for the premium MB all-season mats again.
to pay for the premium MB all-season mats again.
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 359
Likes: 1
From: Kelowna, BC
'09 ML550
My only complaint is that, as has been said already, they don't fully cover the dead pedal.
I don't think it matters whether they say "WeatherTech" or "Mercedes" on the side, they are the same thing.
Member
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
98 C43
Where did you hear that? My salesman gave me a set of Mercedes rubber mats when I bought the vehicle. They suck, serving mainly to hold dirty melted slush under the mats, thus keeping the carpet wet all the time. So I bought WeatherTech liners. They fit absolutely perfectly, don't slide around at all -- they have indents where the Mercedes 'poppers' are located on the floor -- and nobody has ever caught a foot on them at entry or exit.
My only complaint is that, as has been said already, they don't fully cover the dead pedal.
I don't think it matters whether they say "WeatherTech" or "Mercedes" on the side, they are the same thing.
My only complaint is that, as has been said already, they don't fully cover the dead pedal.
I don't think it matters whether they say "WeatherTech" or "Mercedes" on the side, they are the same thing.
Member
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 148
Likes: 0
'08 IS F; '09 ML 320 Bluetec; '10 X5 35d
This thread is LOL! 
The MB all-weather mats are a joke however you want to justify it. We picked up Michelin mats at Costco for about $40. Match perfectly (our interior is black), fit perfectly, and are extremely functional even in our slush filled winter/springs.
The MB all-weather mats are a joke however you want to justify it. We picked up Michelin mats at Costco for about $40. Match perfectly (our interior is black), fit perfectly, and are extremely functional even in our slush filled winter/springs.
Member
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
98 C43
Last edited by jditom; May 2, 2010 at 12:51 PM.
Junior Member
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
2009 ML350
-1 on that statement, if it was directed at me. My homework was 10 years of being satisfied with the previous factory all-season mats and expected at least the same from MB this time around. People buying the liners are complaining that they still don't fit 100%, slide a little, and their feet get caught on the lip upon entry/exit, so it seemed like a no-brainer to pay for the premium MB all-season mats again.
to pay for the premium MB all-season mats again.I bought my ML and it came with both carpet and MB/WeatherTech mats. The tray mats work nice in the front. The rears are 2 piece and slide a bit. On the WeatherTech site it looks like there rear mat is one solid piece which would also cover the middle carpet hump? Is this true? If so I may spring for some rears.
lol. 'perfect' is a relative term i guess. the liners are a PERFECT fit. i feel like an MB liner salesman here...
Last edited by ninjajim4; May 3, 2010 at 09:28 AM.
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
From: USA
2010 ML550 (W164)
Found the complaints - 1 about sliding and 1 about catching foot on the lip - on either this message board or "the other one". Honestly, my previous excellent experience with the mats in my W163 carried far more weight than the odd incongruous complaint about the liners.
Now, more importantly, what do people have against Costco?
Their quality is normally good - it has to be otherwise people just take it back! 
Now, more importantly, what do people have against Costco?
Their quality is normally good - it has to be otherwise people just take it back!
Junior Member
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
2009 ML350
Found the complaints - 1 about sliding and 1 about catching foot on the lip - on either this message board or "the other one". Honestly, my previous excellent experience with the mats in my W163 carried far more weight than the odd incongruous complaint about the liners.
Now, more importantly, what do people have against Costco? Their quality is normally good - it has to be otherwise people just take it back!
Now, more importantly, what do people have against Costco?
Their quality is normally good - it has to be otherwise people just take it back! i got nothing against costco. love their chocolate cake. but generic mats and pine tree air fresheners belong in a ford explorer. it's not a question of if it "works"
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
ML320 (W163)
Incongruous mats ...
"Incongruous" better go check the dictionary.
I think my comments are perfectly relevant re both the poor coverage of the new W164 MB mats as well as the poor design of the Weathertech rear floor liners. If things like leaving the section between the brake and dead-pedal uncovered is acceptable in a winter mat, then my opinions may be different from yours, but I don't think it's incongruous for a product that's supposed to protect your carpets (but doesn't).
And, I've been using OEM and Weathertech mats for a very very long time on all our BMW and Mercedes vehicles. But, I won't buy Weathertech again for the rear row (where I need it the most ... kids with muddy boots) unless they fix their design issues.
Bfeng
I think my comments are perfectly relevant re both the poor coverage of the new W164 MB mats as well as the poor design of the Weathertech rear floor liners. If things like leaving the section between the brake and dead-pedal uncovered is acceptable in a winter mat, then my opinions may be different from yours, but I don't think it's incongruous for a product that's supposed to protect your carpets (but doesn't).
And, I've been using OEM and Weathertech mats for a very very long time on all our BMW and Mercedes vehicles. But, I won't buy Weathertech again for the rear row (where I need it the most ... kids with muddy boots) unless they fix their design issues.
Bfeng
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
From: USA
2010 ML550 (W164)
I'm not disagreeing with you. Incongruous in the context that the vast majority of accounts were that the mats/liners where perfect, whilst just one or two people pointed out some some things they were unhappy with. Like you I based my buying decision on experience, reputation and the assumption that Mercedes' products IMPROVE year over year!
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
From: USA
2010 ML550 (W164)
• a widespread belief that someone or something has a particular habit or characteristic
My experience with my older generation of vehicle/mats was GOOD and I still have to ignore it? The marketing/brand guys from MB will want a word with you.
