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Old 09-26-2011, 08:49 PM
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HIDS on my 08 ml350.... smart idea?

I am currently not satisfied with my headlights on my car. Im thinking of putting aftermarket hids on my low beams and fogs. Has anyone done this before? Is it a smart idea?
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I have had them almost 2 years now, love em, couldn't imagine driving without them. I did not do the fogs, the low beams were plenty bright enough. I got a cheap pair of chinese junk fog light bulbs of eBay for like 10 bucks to match the white color(5000k). They look great, still going. You should consider matching the parking lights too for the full front end look. I also changed my license plate lights to LEDs to match the all white light look.
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Thanks I was just looking for someone that's done it and if they had any issues with it
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I will be doing this on my 2007 soon, I have the kit, just don't have the time to do the install, life get's in the way sometime......lol

I will post pics, once I have it completed, however it will be at a minimum of one month from now.....going to try and have it done before the snow starts to fly.....
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Originally Posted by GateKeeper
I will be doing this on my 2007 soon, I have the kit, just don't have the time to do the install, life get's in the way sometime......lol

I will post pics, once I have it completed, however it will be at a minimum of one month from now.....going to try and have it done before the snow starts to fly.....
Yes please give a full update with pics, what is the name of the kit you have? I am over here in Germany and most roads dont have street lamps so good lighting is a must, driving in the dark over here during the winter months is terrible.
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I purchased my kit from the USA, from AZN Optics, he does a lot of advertising here, has led's as well for that no error install, and is a great guy to deal with, my first kit came to me damaged, probably by postal workers, I told Mike about it and he mailed me the replacement part without any questions or charges......

look at this thread - https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w...your-w164.html

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I'm thinking about ordering mines online as well somebody at a shop quoted me $250 for my low beams and fogs but I think that's too good to be true and its probably a cheap kit..... and I don't wanna put that crap on my car
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Originally Posted by GateKeeper
I purchased my kit from the USA, from AZN Optics, he does a lot of advertising here, has led's as well for that no error install, and is a great guy to deal with, my first kit came to me damaged, probably by postal workers, I told Mike about it and he mailed me the replacement part without any questions or charges......

look at this thread - https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w...your-w164.html

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Thanks, I didnt know that he sold those kits, I might have to give him a try.
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Yes highly recommended. I use $37 eBay kit with capacitors and not a hiccup. Also did this for a buddy with new e350. Drivers side was a real pita though. On w164 it's relatively easy.
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Yes highly recommended. I use $37 eBay kit with capacitors and not a hiccup. Also did this for a buddy with new e350. Drivers side was a real pita though. On w164 it's relatively easy.
So is the installation simple, is there any drilling or anything of that nature since there is a ballast i assume it has to be attached to the side or something no?
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Nope, its all just plug-n-play.
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I am over here in Germany and most roads dont have street lamps
WTF....

"Most roads don't have street lamps?" in Germany? Are you serious?

Ok, Aubtobahn and Bundesstrasse don't have "street lamps", but everything else is illuminated brightly. Post a pic of an inner city street not FULLY illuminated in Germany and I'll pay you 500k$
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WTF....

"Most roads don't have street lamps?" in Germany? Are you serious?

Ok, Aubtobahn and Bundesstrasse don't have "street lamps", but everything else is illuminated brightly. Post a pic of an inner city street not FULLY illuminated in Germany and I'll pay you 500k$
Haha lol
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Compaired to the States, German roads are poorly lighted, and I was not refering to inner citys, its a no brainer that citys would be well lighted.
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So is the installation simple, is there any drilling or anything of that nature since there is a ballast i assume it has to be attached to the side or something no?
Everything is plug n play. BUT I had to drill a hole just big enough for rubber grommets to fit snuggly on headlight cover to slide the bulb through, then use plastic epoxy to get a nice seal. This ensures I don't have condensation in the headlights.
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Everything is plug n play. BUT I had to drill a hole just big enough for rubber grommets to fit snuggly on headlight cover to slide the bulb through, then use plastic epoxy to get a nice seal. This ensures I don't have condensation in the headlights.
Glad to hear you did. You for sure won't regret it. Trust me. Can you post pics?
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Everything is plug n play. BUT I had to drill a hole just big enough for rubber grommets to fit snuggly on headlight cover to slide the bulb through, then use plastic epoxy to get a nice seal. This ensures I don't have condensation in the headlights.
DO you have the seller because i spoke to my auto guy where i got my tints done and other work and he said he can do it for 250$ including installation. i find alot of websites online i am just not sure whats legit and how long they will last.
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DO you have the seller because i spoke to my auto guy where i got my tints done and other work and he said he can do it for 250$ including installation. i find alot of websites online i am just not sure whats legit and how long they will last.
Why would you pay 250$ if it literally is like a 20minute installation? And buy from AZN Optics. They have good stuff..
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Paying $250 for HID's is not necessary. If this is your first time it'll take 1.5-2 hours max with total cost less than $80 This is not a tutorial but here are some tips.

First of all get H7 adaptor like this one on ebay. This will make your life alot easier... for me it was. It's difficult enough using oem adaptor. This will save alot of time when your bulb goes bad in the future.



Brand of HID kit I don't think it really matters at this price range of less than $40. Unless you like to been seen as a civic with purple HID's I suggest you go with 4300K or max 5300K bulb to get as close to OEM color as possible. Buddy's E350 has slim kit. I noticed slim ballasts give out slightly bluer color compared to regular thick ballast from experience on same bulb. So I prefer older non-slim design. I had to lift the car and go through fender lining for the driver side... real PITA.



Once you install the grommet it should look something like this. If you get lucky and don't make to hole too big you can get a tight seal and thus no need to apply epoxy but why take chances... just do it the right first time. It should look something like this


You can see here with one side HID and halogen on the other.


Hardest part was installing the bulb. It was just a real PITA to seat it properly. You'll spend a good 30 mins at least on this part. Once you get the bulbs in correctly everything else is easy. Your beam pattern should be same as before like this. This pic is from my previous 08 ML350


Remember to use 2200 uF, 35V capacitors. You can search for a tutorial on this forum. I think it's older E-class section. I HIGHLY recommend soldering all connections. I used crimp connectors or T-taps and they weren't really good as some got loose and some just didn't provide good connection. I had this setup on our old '06 C230SS and '08 ML350, then now '11 ML350. This setup lasted 3 years before a bulb went out, not bad for $80. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by KA8

Brand of HID kit I don't think it really matters at this price range of less than $40. Unless you like to been seen as a civic with purple HID's I suggest you go with 4300K or max 5300K bulb to get as close to OEM color as possible. Buddy's E350 has slim kit. I noticed slim ballasts give out slightly bluer color compared to regular thick ballast from experience on same bulb. So I prefer older non-slim design. I had to lift the car and go through fender lining for the driver side... real PITA.



Once you install the grommet it should look something like this. If you get lucky and don't make to hole too big you can get a tight seal and thus no need to apply epoxy but why take chances... just do it the right first time. It should look something like this


You can see here with one side HID and halogen on the other.


Hardest part was installing the bulb. It was just a real PITA to seat it properly. You'll spend a good 30 mins at least on this part. Once you get the bulbs in correctly everything else is easy. Your beam pattern should be same as before like this. This pic is from my previous 08 ML350


Remember to use 2200 uF, 35V capacitors. You can search for a tutorial on this forum. I think it's older E-class section. I HIGHLY recommend soldering all connections. I used crimp connectors or T-taps and they weren't really good as some got loose and some just didn't provide good connection. I had this setup on our old '06 C230SS and '08 ML350, then now '11 ML350. This setup lasted 3 years before a bulb went out, not bad for $80. Good luck!
What kelvin is that in the E and in the ML? Are you using 4300k in both those cars? Is it 35 or 55w? I am thinking of getting a 55w 5000k kit and 5000k leds to match my lights. I don't think a 55w kit at that kelvin would be blue because would't that wash out a lot of the color and have just a pure white look? I can't make up my mind as to what kelvin to get.
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What kelvin is that in the E and in the ML? Are you using 4300k in both those cars? Is it 35 or 55w? I am thinking of getting a 55w 5000k kit and 5000k leds to match my lights. I don't think a 55w kit at that kelvin would be blue because would't that wash out a lot of the color and have just a pure white look? I can't make up my mind as to what kelvin to get.
Get 6k
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6k why 6k? Those will be too blue. I am worried 5k is too high as I want oem/pure white
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thanks alot for the info very very helpful.
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I'm getting the DDM kit 55W, what parts do I need because it's asking me at checkout?I thought the HID "kit" includes everything? I've heard I'll need the error eliminator but what about the rest?

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