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Hi all. Any upgrade kits for the internal Transfer case components for the W164 chassis . Mine is rear wheel and the chain isn’t moving inside. Didn’t know if I should just put in a used one in or if there are aftermarket rebuild kits. Anyways any advice helps. Thanks.
Ya no codes, what I mean is when we have it in the air only my rear tires are moving, when we have the speedometer at 0-45km, you open the plug on the transfer case and the chain inside isn’t moving but you can tell it wants too but something is wrong inside. We can still drive it. But not pushing it
Mai
something internal is broken, so before I put a used one in, I was wondering if there are upgrades kits to make it stronger. We have not opened it yet,
Ya no codes, what I mean is when we have it in the air only my rear tires are moving, when we have the speedometer at 0-45km, you open the plug on the transfer case and the chain inside isn’t moving but you can tell it wants too but something is wrong inside. We can still drive it. But not pushing it
Ryan, your wording is not understandable. What plug? Do you mean the cover that that exposes the chain?
We have. NO codes. I highlighted the problem area in my transfer case .There is no power flow from the Main shaft to the Gear that drives the Chain most likely due to the clutch failure/wear in the center differential . I want to see if it can find a repair kit that’s all I’m asking
I replaced my TC chain a few months ago...pretty basic job. No upgrades available. All there is is the chain and a couple sprockets.
The TC is simple...it has an input from the engine. Then, the input shaft goes through to the rear, and the sprocket on the shaft provides torque to the front via the chain. If the rears move from the power of the engine and the fronts don't, then something internally has broken inside the TC...time to open it up and investigate.
Keep in mind that a rebuilt TC from MB is around $6k. I was able to find other rebuilt ones not through MB for about $3k. Then I found a used one on ebay with a 1 year warranty for around $800. Then I decided to R&R the chain for $90. A worn chain is the most common failure, but if yous is not moving at all, you may have other isuues.
Ryan, think clearly. With something as catastrophic as you say, there must be a code/s. What ever you are using to check for codes is not capable of reading the T-case.
I'm having a similar issue with my '08 ML320. Yesterday, my wife heard a loud thud while making a left turn and the car became inoperable. Had it towed to my house and the car makes a really loud clacking sound whenever I try to put it into D, N, or R (with the engine running). No noise with it in park. Also, with the car in Park, I can push the car and it rolls freely without the pawl engaging. With the front of the car raised, the driveshaft leading to the front differential does not turn when attempting to put the car into gear. I haven't raised the rear yet.
Seeking a quick diagnosis, I tried justanswer yesterday and I had a mechanic indicate that he thinks the transfer case chain has broken and the noise is from the chain rattling around. From hours of searching online, I haven't found a single instance of the TC chain actually breaking....just stretching.
So if the chain is broken, shouldn't I still have power to the rear wheels? Like Ryan, I have no codes...at least none using a Zurich ZR13 reader, which usually has no problem pulling MB specific codes. Any ideas? Guessing the first step is that I should drain the TC fluid and see what it looks like tomorrow.
I found a post from a few years ago where a W164 ML350 had stripped planetary gears in the transfer case. I'm guessing that might cause the type of noise that I'm getting and also prevent power to the rear wheels. Seems odd that it would happen suddenly with no apparent grinding noise previous to the thud incident. https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w...sfer-case.html
I found a post from a few years ago where a W164 ML350 had stripped planetary gears in the transfer case. I'm guessing that might cause the type of noise that I'm getting and also prevent power to the rear wheels. Seems odd that it would happen suddenly with no apparent grinding noise previous to the thud incident. https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w...sfer-case.html
So with mine. There was really no metal filings, gears are in good shape., chain was fine. Very intermittent problem. If you can put all four tires and see what happens may help too. That way you can see if you are just rear wheel drive or nothing at all. But start looking for a used transfer case because you can’t get any parts except the chain, bearing and seals.
So with mine. There was really no metal filings, gears are in good shape., chain was fine. Very intermittent problem. If you can put all four tires and see what happens may help too. That way you can see if you are just rear wheel drive or nothing at all. But start looking for a used transfer case because you can’t get any parts except the chain, bearing and seals.
It cost me $2000 total to get for used transfer case with labour. 84,000km on it. I would have done it myself but I’m too busy with my work and my wife needed it ASAP.
Update on my issue: While removing the transfer case, I was rotating the front driveshaft in order to remove the flex disc bolts and discovered that the axel would turn independently of the TC flex disc. Ah ha!! It turns out that my problem was a busted CV joint on the driveshaft. I guess when I had looked underneath the car and noted that the driveshaft wasn't turning, the angle I was looking from didn't reveal that the transfer case output was, in fact, turning. I installed a used driveshaft and the car is back to normal. Glad I caught it before I had removed the transfer case.
Update on my issue: While removing the transfer case, I was rotating the front driveshaft in order to remove the flex disc bolts and discovered that the axel would turn independently of the TC flex disc. Ah ha!! It turns out that my problem was a busted CV joint on the driveshaft. I guess when I had looked underneath the car and noted that the driveshaft wasn't turning, the angle I was looking from didn't reveal that the transfer case output was, in fact, turning. I installed a used driveshaft and the car is back to normal. Glad I caught it before I had removed the transfer case.
That’s awesome. Way cheaper fix. I wish that was my issue.
C230 Sport Coup + 2006 W164 ML350 + 99 Ford Escort RIP
So in the end, what was the problem?
I mean, yes the transfer case, but any idea what the actual issue is?
It's possible to get the bearings, seals, and chain, but those planetary gears?
Yeah, you'd need to cannibalize another case.
Originally Posted by Ryan Anderson
It cost me $2000 total to get for used transfer case with labour. 84,000km on it. I would have done it myself but I’m too busy with my work and my wife needed it ASAP.
So in the end, what was the problem?
I mean, yes the transfer case, but any idea what the actual issue is?
It's possible to get the bearings, seals, and chain, but those planetary gears?
Yeah, you'd need to cannibalize another case.
No issues with the bearings or chains. Or planetary gears , the mechanic even could see the issues. Possibly slight wear on some teeth but so hard to telll
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