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Old May 20, 2025 | 11:49 AM
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In all fairness I have not taken it to a specialist. Just trying to pick your minds what you guys think could be the issue from your personal experience. I've dealt with Airmatic issues before. Once was a blown rear bag. The other was a rear leveling sensor. In both cases this threw the driving experience and suspension out of whack.

This time it's different. When driving all is normal. No issues. However here is what I have observed.

1) When parked overnight or sometimes for an hour the entire front sags.
2) 2/10 times even overnight all seems good and no sagging when I walk out to the ML the next morning.
3) I hear every 2-5 mins from the front a pressure release of air while driving. I assume the compressor is trying to compensate but truthfully I don't hear the compressor while driving. Just the blowoff release every 2-5 mins.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

Here is what I'm thinking.

1) Leaking or faulty Valve Box located in the front passenger fender.
2) A leak in one of the front lines.
3) One of the front bags are leaking. Most likely the driver side cause when this all started only the front driver side was squatting.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Take care team.
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Old May 20, 2025 | 09:34 PM
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Had a front bag leak on my R500 that had similar issues. In normal height, the hole was in an area where the bag was folded over itself so it basically sealed itself shut, having a very slow leak that only was visible after a week of being parked. Over time that hole got bigger until it got to the point where when the car lowered itself at highway speeds, the leak was greater than what the air compressor could supply and I got the Airmatic faults. Pulled over and the car was incapable of rising. Decided to just drive it back as is, and as I pulled out of the gas station the suspension aligned itself just right to shut the hole again, allowing it to rise back up until it again lowered itself at highway speeds.

A good test would be to use the raise function, raising the car to its maximum height to take out all of the folds. If there is a leak in the front bag, it should be pretty easy to catch.
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Old May 20, 2025 | 11:15 PM
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Old May 21, 2025 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsumi
Had a front bag leak on my R500 that had similar issues. In normal height, the hole was in an area where the bag was folded over itself so it basically sealed itself shut, having a very slow leak that only was visible after a week of being parked. Over time that hole got bigger until it got to the point where when the car lowered itself at highway speeds, the leak was greater than what the air compressor could supply and I got the Airmatic faults. Pulled over and the car was incapable of rising. Decided to just drive it back as is, and as I pulled out of the gas station the suspension aligned itself just right to shut the hole again, allowing it to rise back up until it again lowered itself at highway speeds.

A good test would be to use the raise function, raising the car to its maximum height to take out all of the folds. If there is a leak in the front bag, it should be pretty easy to catch.
Thanks bud. Good thought and suggestion. I did that last night. But no go. Front was sagged this morning.

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Old May 21, 2025 | 02:46 PM
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a spray bottle filled with soapy water is your friend.
Looks like that's going to be the next step. Thank you.
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The soapy water test is only effective if you have the car at its highest setting and sitting on its own weight. That applies to all components so they are fully pressurised. Id say your problem is the valve block. Be careful buying this as arnott make 2 versions- 1 made in China and 1 in the US. Buy the later
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Old May 26, 2025 | 10:36 AM
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100% this is going to jinx it. But for the last 4 days everything seems fine. Front airbags don't deflate anymore.
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Old May 26, 2025 | 03:05 PM
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The soapy water test is only effective if you have the car at its highest setting and sitting on its own weight. That applies to all components so they are fully pressurised. Id say your problem is the valve block. Be careful buying this as arnott make 2 versions- 1 made in China and 1 in the US. Buy the later
And that would be my first attempt to address this as it is a DIY job and the cheapest.
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Wellp. It's in the shop. Getting a new compressor and valve block. Then we see.
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Old Jul 3, 2025 | 11:11 PM
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Offffff, This was not a cheap fix boys.

1) 3 shocks and bags
2) Compressor
3) Valve Block
4) Rear ride height sensor
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Old Jul 3, 2025 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OUZO Power;[url=tel:9184290
9184290[/url]]Offffff, This was not a cheap fix boys.

1) 3 shocks and bags
2) Compressor
3) Valve Block
4) Rear ride height sensor
Well at least your oil leak fix was cheap… 😂

In all seriousness sorry to hear to hear about all those airmatic components needing replacement… ouch.
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Old Sep 23, 2025 | 10:36 AM
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Well that was short lived. 2 months passed and the entire car is squatting. Malfunction warning on the dash and the new compressor is definitely not kicking in.
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Old Sep 23, 2025 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OUZO Power
Well that was short lived. 2 months passed and the entire car is squatting. Malfunction warning on the dash and the new compressor is definitely not kicking in.
Airmatic/ABC suspension issues. I don't miss those days at all. No matter how much preventive maintenance I did on my S and SL class, some random suspension issue always came up and at a very high cost.

I was filled with joy when I found out you can get the ML with standard shocks/springs. It was the selling point when searching for a luxury SUV. Soon as I found an SUV I liked and saw air strut, I ran away faster than usain bolt.

With that said, did the mechanic use an OEM compressor? I learned the hard way that these cars don't like aftermarket air suspension/ABC parts.

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Old Sep 23, 2025 | 01:16 PM
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Airmatic/ABC suspension issues. I don't miss those days at all. No matter how much preventive maintenance I did on my S and SL class, some random suspension issue always came up and at a very high cost.

I was filled with joy when I found out you can get the ML with standard shocks/springs. It was the selling point when searching for a luxury SUV. Soon as I found an SUV I liked and saw air strut, I ran away faster than usain bolt.

With that said, did the mechanic use an OEM compressor? I learned the hard way that these cars don't like aftermarket air suspension/ABC parts.
That's what I should have done. Swapped everything out for the conventional spring and shock. Too late now.
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Old Sep 23, 2025 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by imtheking
Airmatic/ABC suspension issues. I don't miss those days at all. No matter how much preventive maintenance I did on my S and SL class, some random suspension issue always came up and at a very high cost.

I was filled with joy when I found out you can get the ML with standard shocks/springs. It was the selling point when searching for a luxury SUV. Soon as I found an SUV I liked and saw air strut, I ran away faster than usain bolt.

With that said, did the mechanic use an OEM compressor? I learned the hard way that these cars don't like aftermarket air suspension/ABC parts.
Amen. After 13 years of X164 ownership with airmatic, I don't miss it. When it works properly, it rides/handles better than the conventional suspension (currently have a ML550 with springs), but the endless repairs aren't worth it IMO. Adding up all the things I had to replace, I was averaging more than one repair per year.
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Amen. After 13 years of X164 ownership with airmatic, I don't miss it. When it works properly, it rides/handles better than the conventional suspension (currently have a ML550 with springs), but the endless repairs aren't worth it IMO. Adding up all the things I had to replace, I was averaging more than one repair per year.
If you thought airmatic was bad, imagine ABC suspension. Pumps, hoses, valve blocks, sensors, accumulators, hydraulic fluid at $30 a quart etc.....absolute nightmare. Never spent less than $1000 on a repair. and the issue wasn't always straight forward. There were times my mechanic had to spend days trying to figure out the issue. Complete headache. He's a master mercedes mechanic and even he hated working on the ABC system.

If you are a DIY'er it's not that bad. You can bring the cost down a little.....but still.

A bad ABC suspension can leave you stranded. Here you are driving down the street and booom....a hose blows out with fluid all over the place. and if you don't stop, you can destroy your pump. Yuck. Never again.

and yes, I know they have coilover conversions now. I rode in a SL with Strutmaster and it felt like trash.

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Originally Posted by imtheking
If you thought airmatic was bad, imagine ABC suspension. Pumps, hoses, valve blocks, sensors, accumulators, hydraulic fluid at $30 a quart etc.....absolute nightmare. Never spent less than $1000 on a repair. and the issue wasn't always straight forward. There were times my mechanic had to spend days trying to figure out the issue. Complete headache. He's a master mercedes mechanic and even he hated working on the ABC system.

If you are a DIY'er it's not that bad. You can bring the cost down a little.....but still.

A bad ABC suspension can leave you stranded. Here you are driving down the street and booom....a hose blows out with fluid all over the place. and if you don't stop, you can destroy your pump. Yuck. Never again.

and yes, I know they have coilover conversions now. I rode in a SL with Strutmaster and it felt like trash.
Watching Alex (former master MB tech) struggle with the ABC system on a CL(?) on his LegitStreetCars YouTube channel was enough to convince me I never needed to experience it firsthand. My out of pocket cost on the airmatic wasn't that bad because some of it was fixed under the CPO warranty, and once that ran out, i replaced parts with Arnott, which at the time offered a lifetime warranty on their parts, but the hassle of constantly fixing something got really old. One good thing at least is that the most common failure are the front shocks, which usually slowly fail, so you get plenty of warning that something needs to be fixed. After owning an airmatic car, it is amazing how many older MBs you start noticing driving around and parked with sagging suspensions.
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I lucked out. It was a fuse for the new compressor. Picking it up tomorrow. Have to ask the mechanic now where that fuse is cause chances are it will happen again.
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Originally Posted by OUZO Power;[url=tel:9216535
9216535[/url]]I lucked out. It was a fuse for the new compressor. Picking it up tomorrow. Have to ask the mechanic now where that fuse is cause chances are it will happen again.
Not sure that’s a good sign. If it’s overdrawing on amperage then something is up…
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Originally Posted by EWT
Watching Alex (former master MB tech) struggle with the ABC system on a CL(?) on his LegitStreetCars YouTube channel was enough to convince me I never needed to experience it firsthand. My out of pocket cost on the airmatic wasn't that bad because some of it was fixed under the CPO warranty, and once that ran out, i replaced parts with Arnott, which at the time offered a lifetime warranty on their parts, but the hassle of constantly fixing something got really old. One good thing at least is that the most common failure are the front shocks, which usually slowly fail, so you get plenty of warning that something needs to be fixed. After owning an airmatic car, it is amazing how many older MBs you start noticing driving around and parked with sagging suspensions.
Airmatic isn't that bad. You're right- its mainly the struts. The compressor and valve block are not that expensive and somewhat easy to replace....so are the struts. Different animal when it comes to ABC though. Just a total nightmare. Replacing a valve block on the ABC system requires you to bleed the ABC system, conduct a rodeo (watch youtube video) and refill with 10 quarts of ABC fluid at $30 a quart. (might be more expensive now). It cost me $3500 for ONE valve block and there are two. The second one never failed on me. The valve block alone was $1800.

And thank god for Arnott cause the OEM struts were crazy expensive. It helped that at one time they bought back your used struts so you can save a little money. Most people were buying coilovers and selling their struts to arnott. The buy back program usually covered the entire cost of the coilovers. (almost all of it).

It was such as inconvenience. Getting in your car and fearing failure every single time was not how I wanted to live.
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Not sure that’s a good sign. If it’s overdrawing on amperage then something is up…
Time will tell.
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Hi all,
I am planning to replace front airmatic struts soon, and possibly rear bags along with compressor and valve block. Everything working OK at the moment, but my gl450 is sitting at 10 years old and 90k on the odometer. Front end feels a little underdamped, so I'm thinking those struts are worn. Rear feels OK for now but if I am doing some of the work I might as well replace the aging parts now and hope for a few years without subsequent failures trickling along.
I am trying to avoid the sudden failure and having my wife stranded somewhere with preventive replacement.
Main question is do I need a scan tool to empty and refill the system safely? I have read yes and no, that if you are careful not to loosen the fittings too quickly it can be done safely but mb procedure says to initiate the decompression process via the software...
If so what would be the favorite tool? I see xtool or topdon bidirectional advertising Air suspension functions but I don't want to plunk down another 3-400$ on a tool if not needed or doesn't actually do the job I need it to do. I'm just a home mechanic with two cars so I wouldn't use it much.
Thanks!

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