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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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Anyone satisfied with stock (non H/K) sound system on ML350?

Trying to finalize the option list to fit within budget of 60k, as it is very easy to go over when you add on goodies for a 2013. Not sure about the sound quality of the stock system, as I am not an audiophile and don't really need the 800 watts H/K system. Anyone satisfied with the 100 watts stock system?

Which one of options below do you think have the least impact on the driving/ownership experience? In another word, the corresponding standard feature works just fine.
1. H/K audio system
2. Xenon lighting package (I live in the city with little night driving)
3. Passive lane tracking package
4. 4Matic (Southern Cal)
5. Active parking assist (no need for parallel parking, but the parking space can be small)
6. leather seating pkg

Thanks.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ca92129
Trying to finalize the option list to fit within budget of 60k, as it is very easy to go over when you add on goodies for a 2013. Not sure about the sound quality of the stock system, as I am not an audiophile and don't really need the 800 watts H/K system. Anyone satisfied with the 100 watts stock system?

Which one of options below do you think have the least impact on the driving/ownership experience? In another word, the corresponding standard feature works just fine.
1. H/K audio system
2. Xenon lighting package (I live in the city with little night driving)
3. Passive lane tracking package
4. 4Matic (Southern Cal)
5. Active parking assist (no need for parallel parking, but the parking space can be small)
6. leather seating pkg

Thanks.
1. You probably will not care.

2. You'll be just fine. Most MLs do not have it.

3. Blind Spot Alert is one of those options that once you have, you always want it. Same with Navi.

4. Unless you go snowboarding in Mammoth, you should be fine. I've taken my RWD to Big Bear without issues but that was with no snow on the roads and light snow in lots. I do go to Mammoth but my main reason for getting the 4matic is that it will be our main family hauler. And when it pours in L.A. the roads get slick with a RWD. L.A. is not built to handle rain at all. I've never had any accidents with a RWD in rain here but it has been dicey at times. I'm getting a bluetec that comes standard with 4matic.

5. I'm getting it for parking sensors up front since the active assist tends to be very imperfect on the ML. The front of car is tough to see.

6. You really won't care if you have to ask. I'm getting MBtex myself but I'd love to package the vent seats which are only avail with leather. I'm going with the easy maintenance and long lasting option. No one will know that you don't have the leather pkg unless they are ML nerds like us.

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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Absolutely, the std Audio 20 stereo sounds pretty good, better than the Bose system in my Porsche Cayenne.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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1) the HK system is worth every penny.
2) I would like to have the HID's but $1500 seems steep to me.
3) I have the active and love it. Can't speak about the passive.
4) I thought this was standard?
5) IMO its a novelty. But we don't don't parallel park much here in Florida.
6) We tried both and fell the MBTex is just fine.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ca92129
Trying to finalize the option list to fit within budget of 60k, as it is very easy to go over when you add on goodies for a 2013. Not sure about the sound quality of the stock system, as I am not an audiophile and don't really need the 800 watts H/K system. Anyone satisfied with the 100 watts stock system?

Which one of options below do you think have the least impact on the driving/ownership experience? In another word, the corresponding standard feature works just fine.
1. H/K audio system
The HK is really good (haven't heard stock), and well worth the moderate cost to me, but that's a personal decision.
2. Xenon lighting package (I live in the city with little night driving)
I think well worth it, despite the high cost.
3. Passive lane tracking package
Of not interest to me; I like to drive, not be nannied.
4. 4Matic (Southern Cal)
Good for going to the mountains or through mud. Will probably recoup cost in resale.
5. Active parking assist (no need for parallel parking, but the parking space can be small)
Same response as #3.
6. leather seating pkg
Nice, but a personal decision. I went for leather. Consider the special order #601 Dinamica/MBTex as an upgraded option if you're okay with black.

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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by katiesdad7
1) the HK system is worth every penny.
2) I would like to have the HID's but $1500 seems steep to me.
3) I have the active and love it. Can't speak about the passive.
4) I thought this was standard?
5) IMO its a novelty. But we don't don't parallel park much here in Florida.
6) We tried both and fell the MBTex is just fine.
Agree with everything but 6 but that is a matter of taste and utility. Owned both leather and MB tex.

The standard stereo sucks, provably. Search.
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ca92129
1. H/K audio system
2. Xenon lighting package (I live in the city with little night driving)
3. Passive lane tracking package
4. 4Matic (Southern Cal)
5. Active parking assist (no need for parallel parking, but the parking space can be small)
6. leather seating pkg
1. Worthwhile once you get into it, but not necessary
2. Do not consider deleteing it. I left it off the wifes shopping trolley and now sadly regret that. It works great on low beam even if you never hit the outback highway.
3. New techonology - hard to judge outright value yet.
4. Spritely starts on wet bitumen will cause the traction control to slow you down dramatically. 4matic will let you get going. And if you go bush at any time....
5. Fantastic for incompetant drivers. Amazing how effective dipping mirrorsand reversing cameras are.
6. You don't need ventilated seats if you have real leather. And it feels better too.

Isn't it grand when we can all say something and we all disagree!
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 06:42 AM
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6. You don't need ventilated seats if you have real leather:
why do you think that?
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 07:00 AM
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Had mine for three summers at up to 48oC (118oF). Real leather performed perfectly. Only problem has been the cold feel from a morning start in the snow so our new car will have seat heating.

There is also a fear of food/drink spills into the perforations being hard to clean up.
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ca92129
1. H/K audio system
2. Xenon lighting package (I live in the city with little night driving)
3. Passive lane tracking package
4. 4Matic (Southern Cal)
5. Active parking assist (no need for parallel parking, but the parking space can be small)
6. leather seating pkg

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1) I like the H/K system a lot but have never heard the base system.
2) I don't do much night driving either but I must say that Xenon was nice in my last several cars.
4) I have Distronic and love it.Lane assist and blind spot assist are great,particularly *active* assist.
4) Can't see a need in Southern Cal.If you visit the mountains in winter it might be worthwhile but I do fairly well without it in New England.
5) I have it but find it useless for my purposes.
6) The vinyl works fine for me but it's a matter of personal tastes.

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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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standard radio is perfect.. better than the premium sound i paid 2k for on my m3..
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by katiesdad7
1) the HK system is worth every penny.
2) I would like to have the HID's but $1500 seems steep to me.
3) I have the active and love it. Can't speak about the passive.
4) I thought this was standard?
5) IMO its a novelty. But we don't don't parallel park much here in Florida.
6) We tried both and fell the MBTex is just fine.
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 03:50 AM
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Yes you can experience the 5.1 music quality asyou listen concert dvds or bluerays at hometheatre system but unfortunately we do not yet have command system here, so no chance to listen to 5.1 music in the car. Also there is not too many sources of 5.1 audio around. I have HK system and if I evaluate it carefully it deserves 8/10. Overall quality is very good, but you don't have seperate subwoofer level control, seperate surround speakers level control and although the bass level is all the way up, it does not provide rich enough basses in the car. When I compare the HK system with my Freelander's Alpine dolby prologic system, I can easily say that the speaker quality of the HK is much better with natural sound but the manual control over this system is not enough. One more thing is related with the sattelite speakers. As I can't raise their volume to my taste, I don't enjoy their surround effect as I wish. Harddisk control is very fast. No lag time to move among the folders and files makes it a joy. I wish it had flac and wav support. I am using a 1TB harddisk full of nearly 300GB of music in it and adding more every week from my Sonos system at home. I rarely liston to CDs. May be thequality is higher with CDs. And the album art cover support of the harddisk makes it my first chooce. The banance setting is at -5 towards rear seats to centralize the sound and to feel better surround effect.
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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I am not a fan of the stock radio in the ML. It lacks a subwoofer and a center fill speaker.

The stock radio clearly lacks deep lows and adding bass just makes the bass more muddy. The rear speakers don't help the situation at all as far as bass goes, so it is all up to the front door speakers.

I will go as far to say that it is better than the stock radio in the c class and GLK, but that isn't saying much either.

Pitazorro gives an excellent summary of the HK unit. If it had a bigger subwoofer I think it would be able to reproduce deep lows much better. It is very good, but still expect better for an optional unit in this class of car. The demo disc sounds amazing, but regular discs don't sound as good as the demo disc.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 11:31 AM
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Depends on your listening habits. The HK system in my ml350 actually leaves me wanting more but I came from the C300 HK system that was even better. Up/sidegraded to the ML for expanding family and the loss of several speakers is noticeable.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 11:06 PM
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I love music and the HK is really good! I'm saying this coming from my previous car that I spent $4000 on an aftermarket Alpine system - 3 amps (2000 watts total) - 2-12" subs - 2-8"subs - 4-tweets and 4-mids. The HK rivals my aftermarket setup.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ca92129
Trying to finalize the option list to fit within budget of 60k, as it is very easy to go over when you add on goodies for a 2013. Not sure about the sound quality of the stock system, as I am not an audiophile and don't really need the 800 watts H/K system. Anyone satisfied with the 100 watts stock system?

Which one of options below do you think have the least impact on the driving/ownership experience? In another word, the corresponding standard feature works just fine.
1. H/K audio system
2. Xenon lighting package (I live in the city with little night driving)
3. Passive lane tracking package
4. 4Matic (Southern Cal)
5. Active parking assist (no need for parallel parking, but the parking space can be small)
6. leather seating pkg

Thanks.
Drop 4 and 6 if you want to save some dough... keep the rest.

The HK system with the extra wattage sounds great even at low volume. Wattage is the reason why. Low powered sound systems need to be cranked up a bit to sound decent.

You will LOVE the Bi Xenon lights.

Blind spot monitoring is pretty much a valid important safety feature... get it... not the active lane keeping. The active lane keeping is not important as much as subbing the passive lane keeping and getting the Blind Spot indicator..

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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 12:43 AM
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The stock ML system at low volumes is...ehh. At higher volumes, it's better than the HK system in the W221 S-Class.

However, the HK system in the ML is miles better than the HK system in the old S-Class, well worth the money; I regret not getting it on the ML but I needed an new car immediately back then.
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Old Oct 22, 2014 | 11:07 AM
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Drop 4 and 6 if you want to save some dough... keep the rest.

The HK system with the extra wattage sounds great even at low volume. Wattage is the reason why. Low powered sound systems need to be cranked up a bit to sound decent.

You will LOVE the Bi Xenon lights.

Blind spot monitoring is pretty much a valid important safety feature... get it... not the active lane keeping. The active lane keeping is not important as much as subbing the passive lane keeping and getting the Blind Spot indicator..
+1. Hk it is fantastic.
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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+1. Hk it is fantastic.
Yes definitely get it for how cheap it is
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I just dropped an amp and a sub and crossed the factory speakers to mids and highs. Had to lose the spare tire but sounds awesome.

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