Some pictures of my new ML slightly modded
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Some pictures of my new ML slightly modded
Got my ML a few weeks ago and got to work right away. This is my first new car, first suv and first Mercedes. I love this truck!
Things I did so far:
-35% tint on front windows
-debadged the rear
-20 inch w164 ML63 AMG rims
-aluminum door pins
-no hole adjustable license plate mount (might adjust it a bit higher)
Things still on list:
-mudguards & all season mats( for winter mode)
-aluminium pedals, chrome hood fins and door handles
-debating on fender flares, but cant seem find any plain ones (similar to x5 4.8 is)
-exhaust tips-seems like this will be a difficult one
I just love the stance with the AMG Rims!
Things I did so far:
-35% tint on front windows
-debadged the rear
-20 inch w164 ML63 AMG rims
-aluminum door pins
-no hole adjustable license plate mount (might adjust it a bit higher)
Things still on list:
-mudguards & all season mats( for winter mode)
-aluminium pedals, chrome hood fins and door handles
-debating on fender flares, but cant seem find any plain ones (similar to x5 4.8 is)
-exhaust tips-seems like this will be a difficult one
I just love the stance with the AMG Rims!
Last edited by stas2007; Nov 13, 2012 at 03:38 PM.
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Those 20 inch w164 ML63 AMG rims look fantastic...I like how they're 'fatter' from the rear and front than the regular 20 inch. They look great, but don't stick out weirdly, which is perfect.
I think I'm going to do the same with my ML550 when it comes in.
I didn't consider getting the ones that would be fore a w164 ML63. Are they different than the 20" wheels for the W166 ML63?
I think I'm going to do the same with my ML550 when it comes in.
I didn't consider getting the ones that would be fore a w164 ML63. Are they different than the 20" wheels for the W166 ML63?
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Those 20 inch w164 ML63 AMG rims look fantastic...I like how they're 'fatter' from the rear and front than the regular 20 inch. They look great, but don't stick out weirdly, which is perfect.
I think I'm going to do the same with my ML550 when it comes in.
I didn't consider getting the ones that would be fore a w164 ML63. Are they different than the 20" wheels for the W166 ML63?
I think I'm going to do the same with my ML550 when it comes in.
I didn't consider getting the ones that would be fore a w164 ML63. Are they different than the 20" wheels for the W166 ML63?
Also i think you can get AMG rims on a 550 as an option, probably wont be that wide though.
No AMG kits, just a base 350.
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I just made a DIY Thread on the license plate mount.
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Thank you, I did a lot off research on offsets and measurement, I think w166 ML has 21 inch rims (in Europe they also have 20 inch), they are also 10 inch wide, so they would stick out the same.
Also i think you can get AMG rims on a 550 as an option, probably wont be that wide though.
Also i think you can get AMG rims on a 550 as an option, probably wont be that wide though.
My M550 will have the AMG-style 20 inch, 9j rims. In the US, you can't order the 21 inch 10j rims unless it's an ML63. The ML63 has slightly wider fender flarings to accommodate the wider tire. And you're right, while MB does offer a an AMG-styel 21 inch wheel for non-ML63 in Canada and elsewhere, they are not as wide as the 21 inch wheels on the ML63 (only 9.5j).
I've seen even third-party 22 inch wheels on a standard 166 ML350 and they look pretty good, even though they do stick out from the wheel wells just a tad. However, I woudn't want to go with 22 inch, since I assume the ride quality would diminish quite a bit. I'm guessing the 20 inchers are in the sweet spot of ride vs. looks.
On my old X5, I had a staggered setup of 20x10 in the front, and 20x11 in the back, and it looked amazing. But I didn't think 20x10 or 20x11 is possible on the ML....it seems to require a bigger rim when you get to that tire width. So to it has to be 21x10 for a 10 inch wide tire. But please correct me if I'm wrong....are those tires you have on there now 20x10? What's the actual tire size, front and back?
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Thanks..this is interesting..... For some reason, you're tires look like they are 10j (i.e., 10 inches wide), not the 9j of the 20 inch rims. But to be sure, like you stated earlier, they are 20 incher, yes?
My M550 will have the AMG-style 20 inch, 9j rims. In the US, you can't order the 21 inch 10j rims unless it's an ML63. The ML63 has slightly wider fender flarings to accommodate the wider tire. And you're right, while MB does offer a an AMG-styel 21 inch wheel for non-ML63 in Canada and elsewhere, they are not as wide as the 21 inch wheels on the ML63 (only 9.5j).
I've seen even third-party 22 inch wheels on a standard 166 ML350 and they look pretty good, even though they do stick out from the wheel wells just a tad. However, I woudn't want to go with 22 inch, since I assume the ride quality would diminish quite a bit. I'm guessing the 20 inchers are in the sweet spot of ride vs. looks.
On my old X5, I had a staggered setup of 20x10 in the front, and 20x11 in the back, and it looked amazing. But I didn't think 20x10 or 20x11 is possible on the ML....it seems to require a bigger rim when you get to that tire width. So to it has to be 21x10 for a 10 inch wide tire. But please correct me if I'm wrong....are those tires you have on there now 20x10? What's the actual tire size, front and back?
My M550 will have the AMG-style 20 inch, 9j rims. In the US, you can't order the 21 inch 10j rims unless it's an ML63. The ML63 has slightly wider fender flarings to accommodate the wider tire. And you're right, while MB does offer a an AMG-styel 21 inch wheel for non-ML63 in Canada and elsewhere, they are not as wide as the 21 inch wheels on the ML63 (only 9.5j).
I've seen even third-party 22 inch wheels on a standard 166 ML350 and they look pretty good, even though they do stick out from the wheel wells just a tad. However, I woudn't want to go with 22 inch, since I assume the ride quality would diminish quite a bit. I'm guessing the 20 inchers are in the sweet spot of ride vs. looks.
On my old X5, I had a staggered setup of 20x10 in the front, and 20x11 in the back, and it looked amazing. But I didn't think 20x10 or 20x11 is possible on the ML....it seems to require a bigger rim when you get to that tire width. So to it has to be 21x10 for a 10 inch wide tire. But please correct me if I'm wrong....are those tires you have on there now 20x10? What's the actual tire size, front and back?
I had a few friends that had X5s sports and the width of the rims/tires make the them look like beasts-i think x5 sport are running 315 tires in the back.
I would go 22s, bye/bye ride quality, off road capability-also they just look to big.
Also the ride quality didnt change much, definitely better than X5 with 20s and i dont even have air suspension on my ML
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20x10 is possible on ML because thats what I have now. The rims I got are 10 inch wide all around-tires are all around 295/40/20.
I had a few friends that had X5s sports and the width of the rims/tires make the them look like beasts-i think x5 sport are running 315 tires in the back.
I would go 22s, bye/bye ride quality, off road capability-also they just look to big.
Also the ride quality didnt change much, definitely better than X5 with 20s and i dont even have air suspension on my ML
I had a few friends that had X5s sports and the width of the rims/tires make the them look like beasts-i think x5 sport are running 315 tires in the back.
I would go 22s, bye/bye ride quality, off road capability-also they just look to big.
Also the ride quality didnt change much, definitely better than X5 with 20s and i dont even have air suspension on my ML
Yes, that's what I used to have, and X5 with the Sports option, and they indeed made it look like a beast (a giant tiger with big paws). The 315 tires were indeed in the rear, on 20x11 inch rims. The front 20x10 rims had the 295/40/20.
I felt so amazingly planted as I took turns 'corner-flat' or hairpin turns, including off and off ramps. I also took of the run-flats and put on the Continental DSWs to improve the comfort, and they were very nice.
I would love to have your setup. So, I can put 295/40/20 tires on standard 20 AMG rims, and this will not affect the odometer or create other issues?
Why don't they come that way? Attached is a page from the 2013 ordering guide from the UK, that shows the different wheel and tire configurations. For the 20 inch wheels, it spec 265/45 on 8.5j x 20 tires.
Do you know the actual model or parts number of your wheels? Did you need to add any spacers? Where did you buy them?
Finally, what tires did you use? Thanks!!
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I dont have the part numbers, but they are W164 ML63 AMG OEM lug bolts
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I would love to have your setup. So, I can put 295/40/20 tires on standard 20 AMG rims, and this will not affect the odometer or create other issues?
Why don't they come that way? Attached is a page from the 2013 ordering guide from the UK, that shows the different wheel and tire configurations. For the 20 inch wheels, it spec 265/45 on 8.5j x 20 tires.
Do you know the actual model or parts number of your wheels? Did you need to add any spacers? Where did you buy them?
Finally, what tires did you use? Thanks!!
Why don't they come that way? Attached is a page from the 2013 ordering guide from the UK, that shows the different wheel and tire configurations. For the 20 inch wheels, it spec 265/45 on 8.5j x 20 tires.
Do you know the actual model or parts number of your wheels? Did you need to add any spacers? Where did you buy them?
Finally, what tires did you use? Thanks!!
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The W164 ML63 came stock with this setup, 19x10s all around with 295/40 Continental CrossContact UHPs. The lower profile tire keeps the OD close to stock. I had these on my '06 ML350 for a year or so - they looked great, but I didn't think the Airmatic was up to handling the extra 5 lb. or so extra weight of this setup, so I went back to stock. TheW166 may be different in this regard, but extra unsprung weight is never good for handling. BTW,stock lug bolts work fine with these wheels.
And why wouldn't Airmatic be up to handling an extra 5 pounds? They worked on the AMG with Airmatic? And aren't the AMG 21 in wheels that you can put on a Canadian ML just as heavy?
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LOL...Nice meeting you Nate, you have a sweet ML, it will look nice even with the 19s
w164 amg had 20x10 NOT 19x10, w166 AMG has 21x10 in USA but I believe there are 20x10 offered in other countries for w166 AMG(not 100% sure though)
I dont think airmatic would be a problem, but cant say from personal experience since i have regular suspension on my ML.
Thanks for posting this, GregW...but now I'm confused about this setup of Staz2007. You indicate that the W164 AMG wheels are 19x10 with 295/40 tires. He says they are 20x10, with 295/40 tires. Which is it or are both configurations possible somehow?
And why wouldn't Airmatic be up to handling an extra 5 pounds? They worked on the AMG with Airmatic? And aren't the AMG 21 in wheels that you can put on a Canadian ML just as heavy?
And why wouldn't Airmatic be up to handling an extra 5 pounds? They worked on the AMG with Airmatic? And aren't the AMG 21 in wheels that you can put on a Canadian ML just as heavy?
I dont think airmatic would be a problem, but cant say from personal experience since i have regular suspension on my ML.
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