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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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Mileage and HP ratings

Looking at the various configurations of the 550 engine, mileage and horsepower ratings are all over the map. For instance;

ML 550 14/19 MPG
CL 550 (4matic) 15/24 MPG
CLS 550 (4matic) 18/27 MPG

The weight between these vehicles is no more than 300-400 lbs or less. Just curious since I am close to test driving one and trying to be half way informed about the vehicle.
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 05:11 PM
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Hi, the ML is going to be on the heavier side as well as being a vehicle with a tow rating the gearing will be much different hence the gas guzzler.

The differences between the two passenger cars would mainly be in weight and tuning as well as gearing and trans choices.
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 09:55 PM
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Excuse me for asking - but exactly what is the question ?

Since you are posting this on the W166 ML forum - readers here are going to assume you are trying to benchmark the fuel economy of the 2014 ML550 against other 2014 Mercedes models with the "new generation" MB 550 engine - is that a correct assumption or are you looking for something else ?

1st - assume we are comparing based on US EPA standards -fueleconomy.gov

2nd - assume all models to be compared are based on 4-footed/4matic all-time-all-wheel-drive

3rd - your "major" causal facotr here has to do with front face profile determinant of air resistance against forward speed - sitck your open hand out the window at 70 mph - then stick a closed fist - at forward highway speed front face profile is very important as it is the determinat of how much air you have to move out of the way

4th - yes, same engine and assume all else equal - a SUV will have more forward air resistance at speed than a sedan or coupe

5th - ergo, highway fuel will be less for a SUV than for a sedan/coupe

On the remainder City fuel calculations, that's where most importantly drive style, then weight, and 3rd aerodynamics play into those "minor" differences.

Frankly, if you are chasing fuel economy for a SUV - consider a BlueTec 350 in ML/GL which will give you V8 torque and better fuel economy than the 550 gas models - or if you really want to chase fuel economy in a sedan consider a V6 350 BlueTec E350 (V8 torque) or chas the new MB mileage dragon with the new E250 BlueTec turbo-4 which stomps the whole game with downright peppy V6 equivalent torque and 27/42 mpg.
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 01:27 AM
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Excuse me for asking - but exactly what is the question ?

Since you are posting this on the W166 ML forum - readers here are going to assume you are trying to benchmark the fuel economy of the 2014 ML550 against other 2014 Mercedes models with the "new generation" MB 550 engine - is that a correct assumption or are you looking for something else ?

1st - assume we are comparing based on US EPA standards -fueleconomy.gov

2nd - assume all models to be compared are based on 4-footed/4matic all-time-all-wheel-drive

3rd - your "major" causal facotr here has to do with front face profile determinant of air resistance against forward speed - sitck your open hand out the window at 70 mph - then stick a closed fist - at forward highway speed front face profile is very important as it is the determinat of how much air you have to move out of the way

4th - yes, same engine and assume all else equal - a SUV will have more forward air resistance at speed than a sedan or coupe

5th - ergo, highway fuel will be less for a SUV than for a sedan/coupe

On the remainder City fuel calculations, that's where most importantly drive style, then weight, and 3rd aerodynamics play into those "minor" differences.

Frankly, if you are chasing fuel economy for a SUV - consider a BlueTec 350 in ML/GL which will give you V8 torque and better fuel economy than the 550 gas models - or if you really want to chase fuel economy in a sedan consider a V6 350 BlueTec E350 (V8 torque) or chas the new MB mileage dragon with the new E250 BlueTec turbo-4 which stomps the whole game with downright peppy V6 equivalent torque and 27/42 mpg.
Your assumption is correct. Just trying to learn everything about the ML and the 550 engine prior to my test drive. Having had a E63 in the past, I know that MB plays with hp and torque ratings across some of the lines and I just wanted to know if that was the case in this instance. I know that mileage is not going to be great and if I was looking at just the mileage, I wouldn't be shopping this vehicle. It sounds like and you can confirm this, is that the ML550 engine is a detuned version of the GL550 which is also a detuned version of the S550. Kind of funny that the mileage in the ML is virtually identical (1 mpg difference) even though the weight,greater hp and drag heavily favor the GL. Just trying to see the difference across the lines with the 550 engine.
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Easy to have a GL450 or ML550 "tuned" - ECU pops out, send it off Fedx, get it back 2 weeks later... the guys out of Texas do a good job without the hype/price of RennTech..
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 09:25 AM
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Use Renntech...get it back the next day or maybe in two...not two weeks and 0 hype nor hassle
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Originally Posted by fabbrisd1
Easy to have a GL450 or ML550 "tuned" - ECU pops out, send it off Fedx, get it back 2 weeks later... the guys out of Texas do a good job without the hype/price of RennTech..
What guys in Texas?
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