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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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350 Bluetec in Canada for 2015

The Canadian Mercedes site shows the 350 Bluetec available for 2015. If this is true, they are assembling the car I want in Alabama but I can't buy it unless I'm Canadian.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 01:16 PM
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This isn't uncommon... EPA/DOT/CAFE regs.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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I hear ya, but the current one gets 25 one the highway and meets all current emission standards. My 13 was hit hard in an accident so buying it at the end of the lease is not an option. But I guess if I want a premium German 3 liter diesel I have the option of Porsche, Audi, or BMW. Just can't understand why not Mercedes, since they are apparently still producing it for the North American market. Just saying .
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MDMercedesGuy
This isn't uncommon... EPA/DOT/CAFE regs.
Canada and the USA are both spec'd to North American standards; i..e. they sell the same cars.

My bet is that the Canada site has not been updated properly.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 11:31 PM
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Canada and the USA are both spec'd to North American standards; i..e. they sell the same cars.

My bet is that the Canada site has not been updated properly.
I am from Canada, my dealer confirmed the 350 bluetec for 2015 and all AMG body package standard.
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Old Aug 23, 2014 | 10:42 AM
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I wonder whether it would be possible for a U.S. citizen to purchase a 6-cyl 2015 Bluetec from a Canadian dealer and bring it into the U.S. It should easily meet U.S. emissions requirements, but would it be a hassle to register and would U.S. dealers honor the warranty?

I built a fully loaded BT on the Canadian website that priced out at U.S. $69,500.

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Old Aug 23, 2014 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Shrdlu
I wonder whether it would be possible for a U.S. citizen to purchase a 6-cyl 2015 Bluetec from a Canadian dealer and bring it into the U.S. It should easily meet U.S. emissions requirements, but would it be a hassle to register and would U.S. dealers honor the warranty?

I built a fully loaded BT on the Canadian website that priced out at U.S. $69,500.
I believe you could. The emissions requirements, besides California, I heard are tougher in Canada. A while ago I imported a Toyota 4 Runner and all I had to do was pay 13% tax and do a very easy inspection.
The one thing I believe you have to replace it is the speedometer. In Canada they come ONLY in kilometers not Kilometers/miles.
And yes, the Ml 350 BT 2015 it is available in Canada.

Also, I believe the warranty it is world wide.

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Old Aug 23, 2014 | 03:59 PM
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I find it interesting that people are discounting the ML250 before they have had a chance to drive one... isn't the point of the diesel economy after all?

It still has 369 ft/lb torque, which is more than almost any other passenger car you will encounter on the road.
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I find it interesting that people are discounting the ML250 before they have had a chance to drive one... isn't the point of the diesel economy after all?

It still has 369 ft/lb torque, which is more than almost any other passenger car you will encounter on the road.
On my recent trip to Alaska pulling a 4,400 lb camper trailer, I would not have wanted any less torque. The diesel economy was in the toilet anyway (15 mpg), but the torque enabled me to pull and pass with ease - all 9.500 miles.
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Old Aug 23, 2014 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DUTCH
On my recent trip to Alaska pulling a 4,400 lb camper trailer, I would not have wanted any less torque. The diesel economy was in the toilet anyway (15 mpg), but the torque enabled me to pull and pass with ease - all 9.500 miles.
+1

The point of Diesel it is economy but when you are towing, what really matters it is torque.
Try to tow a 30 footer boat with a 4 cylinder diesel....
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The point of Diesel it is economy but when you are towing, what really matters it is torque.
Try to tow a 30 footer boat with a 4 cylinder diesel....
Try to tow a 30 footer boat with any ML or GL for that matter...

I grew up in a boating family. Part of my reason for moving to an ML is that I am looking to buy a boat sometime in the near future - and I'm looking in the 22-24 foot range.

The 4 cyl diesel is rated to tow the same as an RWD ML350 gas. It'll do just fine.
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Old Aug 23, 2014 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MDMercedesGuy
I find it interesting that people are discounting the ML250 before they have had a chance to drive one... isn't the point of the diesel economy after all?

It still has 369 ft/lb torque, which is more than almost any other passenger car you will encounter on the road.
I just purchased a 2014 ML 350BT and a GLK250 BT.

I am really impressed with GLK, the engine is pretty torquey. For the GLK i think the 250 BT engine is perfect and suits the size for this SUV. I could have gotten a GLK 350 gas engine, for same price, but it consumes a lot more fuel, I know the power would have been great, but the resale values of the bluetec here in canada are so much better than gas versions. I was even considering getting an E250BT... but I really love the 350BT engine, and I will probably wait a bit and eventually get a S350BT

The ML is a lot heavier, at 4700 and using the same 250BT engine will mean, the engine will be forcing a lot more. Obviously on the hwy the 250BT will get better fuel mileage if you keep your speed constant, but overall average, I don't think the ML250BT will be
that" much better than a 350BT. anyways, I guess we have to wait and see for real life results of people with the ML250, i know for a fact that I wouldn't get a ML250 after owning the 350bt version.

also, my wife uses the GLK about 60%city 40% hwy.... I use my ML350BT about 50/50... and we are both averaging same fuel consumption, and I have a heavier foot that she does.

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Old Aug 23, 2014 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Shrdlu
I wonder whether it would be possible for a U.S. citizen to purchase a 6-cyl 2015 Bluetec from a Canadian dealer and bring it into the U.S. It should easily meet U.S. emissions requirements, but would it be a hassle to register and would U.S. dealers honor the warranty?

I built a fully loaded BT on the Canadian website that priced out at U.S. $69,500.
lol thats funny, usually its us canadians trying to import US cars into Canada
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The configuration on the Canadian site is pretty weird. If I want Harman/Kardon sound I have to get the package that includes the Panorama sunroof which I don't like. Also, why is the ML 350 BTC not available without AMG package? If I wanted spoilers, I'd get a sports car and not an SUV
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The configuration on the Canadian site is pretty weird. If I want Harman/Kardon sound I have to get the package that includes the Panorama sunroof which I don't like. Also, why is the ML 350 BTC not available without AMG package? If I wanted spoilers, I'd get a sports car and not an SUV
basically, our canadian models come pretty much fully equipped.

All the ML's get the AMG package. It is not really a spoiler kit, basically the revised front/rear valence, and side skirts that are all color matching, and the disk brakes are cross drilled and caliper covers that say Mercedes Benz.

Also, in canada you have to take the luxury package, which includes the pano roof, the rear climate, rear heated seats, harmon/kardon, push button/keyless go, ..etc..etc...


I noticed in the US website, you can basically pick and choose all the options you want or don't want. When I added up all the options that I have, i think the US model might even come out more expensive than the CDN model (including the 10% difference in dollar power)
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Originally Posted by MannyS430
basically, our canadian models come pretty much fully equipped.

All the ML's get the AMG package. It is not really a spoiler kit, basically the revised front/rear valence, and side skirts that are all color matching, and the disk brakes are cross drilled and caliper covers that say Mercedes Benz.

Also, in canada you have to take the luxury package, which includes the pano roof, the rear climate, rear heated seats, harmon/kardon, push button/keyless go, ..etc..etc...


I noticed in the US website, you can basically pick and choose all the options you want or don't want. When I added up all the options that I have, i think the US model might even come out more expensive than the CDN model (including the 10% difference in dollar power)
Not every option is a good option. I think the amg package makes the ML look cheap and less well rounded. As far as I know with the pano roof the roof doesn't match the vehicle color anymore and I wonder if it makes the vehicle body less stable. I have my regular sunroof closed 99% of the time because I don't like the sun shining on me when I'm driving.

Also when I went on the canadian MB site, I wasn't able to configure an ML with the durable MB-tex in almond-beige.

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