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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 07:21 AM
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Anyone have a comparison of HID vs this LED? Trying to see if it is worth changing over from HID to the LED. I want to achieve a brighter and further throw light.
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 09:02 AM
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all available (H7) aftermarket LED lights are crappy and have way too many issues:
- inconsistency of light pattern
- large size due to fan or fanless design
- longevity/reliability
- CANbus incompatibility
- light output and heat emitted

In addition the headlight housing you have has very limited room and overengineered mounting bulb clips which don't let you aim/adjust the bulb inside.

i myself have tried about 10-12 different LEDs and they all were inferior to the stock lights.
This is why I did H7 HID kit and i was quite happy that I did. it does not solve the problem but it's a HUGE improvement.
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by snaoum
Anyone have a comparison of HID vs this LED? Trying to see if it is worth changing over from HID to the LED. I want to achieve a brighter and further throw light.
I used light meter to measure, my ML came with dynamic HID package
Original HID bulbs 4.3K provides around 110K Lux

I bought D1S - Osram Xenarc 66144 CBI HID Bulbs I think they were 6K and provided around
130K Lux

The last option I bought OSRAM Xenarc Cool Blue Boost D1S Xenon Car Headlight Bulbs (Twin) 66140CBB-HCB they are 7K and providing around 160K Lux.

My wife car has LED lights and they provide more than 200K Lux, my meter goes up to 200K and it shows over limit error.

So, Im sure LED lights should provide more lights and not all HID bulbs provides the same amount of lights.
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Old Mar 31, 2020 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DanD.
I used light meter to measure, my ML came with dynamic HID package
Original HID bulbs 4.3K provides around 110K Lux

I bought D1S - Osram Xenarc 66144 CBI HID Bulbs I think they were 6K and provided around
130K Lux

The last option I bought OSRAM Xenarc Cool Blue Boost D1S Xenon Car Headlight Bulbs (Twin) 66140CBB-HCB they are 7K and providing around 160K Lux.

My wife car has LED lights and they provide more than 200K Lux, my meter goes up to 200K and it shows over limit error.

So, Im sure LED lights should provide more lights and not all HID bulbs provides the same amount of lights.
Doesn't matter what your lux meter goes up to or reads.

Lux meters are fundamentally the wrong tool for the job of metering HID light sources.

Using a lux meter to meter HID light sources makes as much sense as timing your car's 0-60 time with a measuring cup.

Lux meters are fundamentally "blind" to automotive metal-halide light sources and you would get better results asking a color-blind person if they liked a red C63 or a blue C63 better.
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