M-Class (W166) Produced 2012-2015

2015 ML 350 Relay "N" Engine Bay Fuse Box

Old Mar 5, 2025 | 11:14 PM
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Relay N is for circuit 87M: starting circuit. Without fuse, the relay will not work; therefore, not starting capabilities.

CaliBenzDriver suggestion is to reboot the car: disconnect the main battery and the auxiliary in the left sidepod in the rear. Wait , and reconnect. You can remove the negative on each and wait before reconnecting.

The same idea of removing the battery on a laptop: main and coin , press power to discharge capacitors, and reconnect. Voila laptop now works, or works better.

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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JCM_MB
Relay N is for circuit 87M: starting circuit. Without fuse, the relay will not work; therefore, not starting capabilities.

CaliBenzDriver suggestion is to reboot the car: disconnect the main battery and the auxiliary in the left sidepod in the rear. Wait , and reconnect. You can remove the negative on each and wait before reconnecting.

The same idea of removing the battery on a laptop: main and coin , press power to discharge capacitors, and reconnect. Voila laptop now works, or works better.
Sorry, I am a bit lost - are you suggesting rebooting the car to fix the issue related to the Electronic Ignition Lock Control Unit, or the issue related to car not starting?
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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 11:26 PM
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Sorry, I am a bit lost - are you suggesting rebooting the car to fix the issue related to the Electronic Ignition Lock Control Unit, or the issue related to car not starting?
Rebooting to have a clean environment to continue testing.

Cali's suggestions is the network is already compromised. Once reset we can see the natural state of it. I reboot my cars once or twice a year when I charge/refresh the batteries with a CTEK charger
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Gotcha, will do!

In the mean time - do you know what "Electronic Ignition Lock Control Unit" is referring to?
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Originally Posted by 2015mbml350
Gotcha, will do!

In the mean time - do you know what "Electronic Ignition Lock Control Unit" is referring to?
Past models had the electronic steering lock , ESL. It was a nightmare with an electric motor wearing out, seizing or dying and the car would not start at all. Not even crank.

Newer models seem to call it Electronica ignition control lock. There no steering locking, and why asked earlier. Still there is a security/theft prevention system to protect your investment, and apparently drained too. I assume that system is hosted on the ECU or the ignition switch.

I do not have the circuit diagram to tell. Likely required to understand the remaining pieces
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Originally Posted by 2015mbml350
You are probably right - the wheel is not locked when key off, I can still turn it.

But this looks like it is related to ignition switch.. when I had the fuse unplugged, neither the push button nor the key would start the car...
JC knows what makes these cars tick and why they stop ticking.
Do not troubleshoot pulling relays... it will only waste your time and money....
Don't pull any parts from a powered chassis else reboot afterwards or best power down first.
Nothing is plug and play in these networked car computers.



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