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Old 05-29-2024, 07:21 AM
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I noticed a serious decline in acceleration of my 2013 ML 350. This car have been scanned several times yet no fault was detected. Any help?
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Originally Posted by Cornelkings
I noticed a serious decline in acceleration of my 2013 ML 350.
This car have been scanned several times yet no fault was detected.
Any help?
What is your engine type & service history like ???
  • plugs
  • coils
  • boots
  • filters
  • oils
  • fuel pumps
  • tight brakes
  • ....

what's your current mileage?
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
What is your engine type & service history like ???
  • plugs
  • coils
  • boots
  • filters
  • oils
  • fuel pumps
  • tight brakes
  • ....

what's your current mileage?
plugs, filter, oil, all recently changed. Engine coils are good. Haven’t really looked at the fuel pump because of the processes involved. Isn’t that suppose to show when scanned?
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A clogged catalytic converter can really restrict exhaust flow and cut down your engine power. Sometimes, this issue won't set off a fault code right away.
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A clogged catalytic converter can really restrict exhaust flow and cut down your engine power. Sometimes, this issue won't set off a fault code right away.
I see…. but won’t this be noticed from the sound?
I drove a friend’s car, same model, they sound same but his acceleration/movement is smooth.
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Originally Posted by Cornelkings
plugs, filter, oil, all recently changed. Engine coils are good.
Haven’t really looked at the fuel pump because of the processes involved.
Isn’t that suppose to show when scanned?
Even a good scanning tool in the best hands can only shows what you're asking from it.

If you don't get any significant faults then look at data !!! Specifically fuel pressure and trims.

engine... mileage... ???

The first step of lasting repairs is troubleshooting not so much parts-darts.


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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Even a good scanning tool in the best hands can only shows what you're asking from it.

If you don't get any significant faults then look at data !!! Specifically fuel pressure and trims.

engine... mileage... ???

The first step of lasting repairs is troubleshooting not so much parts-darts.
V6, 97k miles
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Okay that means a few things like lambda and tranny ATF are up for consideration besides items I qrote down earlier for you to scan data.
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@Cornelkings I can't say that it can be noticed from the sound all the time. Unless your hearing is really sensitive.
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If the coil were changed, they probably didn’t have to disconnect the spark plug wires.
But if they did disconnect the spark plug wires, did they reconnect them in the correct firing order?
I made that mistake on a V-8, and turned it into a V-6.
Hopefully they didn’t make the same mistake.

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Okay that means a few things like lambda and tranny ATF are up for consideration besides items I qrote down earlier for you to scan data.
Can you throw more light on the Lambda and Tranny ATF check?
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@Cornelkings I can't say that it can be noticed from the sound all the time. Unless your hearing is really sensitive.
Can you give me a head start on how to go about fixing that?
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If the coil were changed, they probably didn’t have to disconnect the spark plug wires.
But if they did disconnect the spark plug wires, did they reconnect them in the correct firing order?
I made that mistake on a V-8, and turned it into a V-6.
Hopefully they didn’t make the same mistake.
just one of the 6 coils was changed and no wire disconnected.
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Change the other 5 coils and report back.

Coils can’t be changed without disconnecting a wire. The coil wire is the spark plug wire.
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Originally Posted by Cornelkings
Can you throw more light on the Lambda and Tranny ATF check?
There are parts that require diagnostics and there are maintenance parts changed on schedule. Lambda and ATF are great examples of this.

Lambda is diagnosed with scanner or best replaced on schedule without waiting for PWM heater to fail.

ATF without a dipstick is best replaced according to schedule, use ot abuse.

My point being that while you are scratching your head, you can also help yourself to maintenance items.

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Originally Posted by Cornelkings
I noticed a serious decline in acceleration of my 2013 ML 350. This car has been scanned several times yet no fault was detected. Any help?
Just in case clean throttle body and MAF sensor. These are low-hanging fruits that can create an issue. Also, if your scan tool allows you to rest the Throttle body, try that one too.
Loss of power can have many reasons. in my experience, if anything to do with spark plugs or wires, will show on the scan tool as a misfire or not a working cylinder. If no code is caught then it means you need simple basic maintenance.
Transmission service would be done if due

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