Gabe007

Hello. I recently purchased a 2007 CLS 550. I plan to do a DIY Oil Change.

I found a few different oil filter brands. Anyway, what oil filter brand do you use? Is there a major difference between the fleece and paper type filter?

Here are a few of them:

2007-2008 Mercedes Benz CLS550 - Hastings Oil Filter
2007-2008 Mercedes Benz CLS550 - Beck Arnley Oil Filter
Mann (Oil Filter Kit; Upgraded Fleece Media; Extended Service)

Thank you for any info you provide.

Goatman

Amsoil recommends the Mann HU7185X. They don't have an EA microfiber filter for that model yet.

TMAllison

Use a Fleece filter like MB would.

http://catalog.peachparts.com/ShopBy...subcatid=24034

Goatman

Therere no filters on the market currently constructed of lamb's wool.

TMAllison

Interesting thought process. Truly special.......

"MB sheet 229.5 approved oils; "MB Longlife Service Oils"
for passenger cars with gas and diesel engines with extended drain intervals beyond 229.3 oils, to 30,000 km, min 1.8% fuel saving, first oils introduced summer 2002. ACEA A3 B4. For gas engines of the M100 series, gas engines of the M200 series and diesel engines of the OM600 series (not models with Euro 4 diesel particle filters).
229.5 engine oils must be used with fleece oil filter designed for use with 229.5 engine oils. "

And no, Amsoil is not on that approved list either.......

kjb55

It is imperative that you use the required fleece oil filter that is specified by MB. It's in the owner's manual, specified by a sticker on the cap of the filter canister housing. You will not win any warranty claims once a non OE, non fleece filter is found to be installed.

Your only assurances of the correct filter are:
- Dealer OE
- Mann (usually internet only, Mann doesn't do much in the aftermarket)
- Bosch 72204 (OE or Mann in the box, complete with O-Rings)

I recently found a Fram replacement available at a local WalMart for MB. Scary. Compare the Chinese knock-off in the Fram box with the OE type, and it's no doubt why any warranty would be voided.

Goatman

Straight from Webster's to the masses:

Main Entry: 1fleece
Pronunciation: \ˈflēs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English flees, from Old English flēos; akin to Middle High German vlius fleece and perhaps to Latin pluma feather, down
Date: before 12th century

1 a: the coat of wool covering a wool-bearing animal (as a sheep) b: the wool obtained from a sheep at one shearing


Again, I state, there are no filters out there currently made of lamb's wool.


I'd stick with the Amsoil recommended filter. They're the only ones in this whole deal that display any knowledge in filters.

TMAllison

Got it, again!!!......So, how do you explain that MB specs "fleece" filters, that the dealer always has them in stock, and that .......oh, never mind. Fleece in this instance is a polyester fabric capable of filtering down to .005" or maybe it was .0005, can't remember which.

Goatman

Reading is fundamental...

TMAllison

You're correct; you'd have known the answer if you'd have bothered to read past the first def.

Goatman

Perhaps my degree in Textiles (Manufacturing and Management of Textiles and Fibers, UMass Dartmouth, 1997) told me the answer before I copied it for you. Doesn't change the fact there are no wool oil filters. Fleece is being used as a generic term for filter media, which in this case, is pretty much an insult to anyone who understands technology or textiles/fibers.

That anyone, including MB, refers to filter media as "fleece" still tells me all I need to know about who's making the financial decisions within the company still.

TMAllison

No one but you indicated they were made from wool.

Your degree ought to have educated you in the usage of the terms used in your industry within the real world. Its no different than a serpentine belt "damper" that is commonly referred to as a "dampener" (a moisturizing agent in reality) by many individuals. Google will pull up a couple 100K hits on dampener "shocks" or 'springs".

My elementary school education (Bullock Creek Elem, Mi., 1970) taught me to consider others limitations.

am_beagle

vettdvr

SO?



I guess Amsoil makes better filters that exceed the MB warranty by not killing sheep. Perhaps PETA stopped in at MB and told them no more sheep killing to save engines use Amsoil?

kjb55

Amsoil is merely re-packaging the OE Mann filter. Buying this filter (HU7185X) from Amsoil is the same product as if you went to the dealer, germanfilters.com, or bought the Bosch 72204.

Didn't mean to break-up the Goat vs. Lamb vs. Sheep vs Fleece discussion and put the post back on topic, let the argument continue.

Goatman

Except the term fleece...

Goatman

And clearly not your own. Sight can't be great from the short bus I guess...

acr2001

Are you retarded?

To the Original Poster, like everyone else said, you must use a filter made of what the industry calls "fleece" rather than paper material. It filters the oil much more finely, and will not break up into your engine over Mercedes long oil change interval the way a paper filter will. If you use the filter Goatman mentions you will void your warranty should any issue arise. Mercedes specifically REQUIRES the use of a fleece filter. There should be a sticker on the oil filter housing which says that.

Back to the textile argument, please read below you foolish idiot:

Fleece \Fleece\, n. [OE. flees, AS. fle['o]s; akin to D. flies, vlies .]

2. Any soft woolly covering resembling a fleece.

This may come as a shock to you, but words can have more than one definition.
Fleece can mean many different things. I think maybe it's time that you get some re-education.

Definitions of "fleece":

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...ition&ct=title

Plenty of other industries that use differing fleece filters:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...er&btnG=Search

Need I go on?

Goatman

Did I tip that off when I recommended the MANN filter? We got a sharp stick in the pile here folks...

Goatman

Fleece is made of lamb's wool. Are you retarded? Need I go on?

acr2001

Nice try, but my argument actually provided facts and made sense. Yours is simply pure stupidity (which I do admit is expected).

Lambs wool is one DEFINITION of the word fleece.
Take an English class - oh and by english, I mean the LANGUAGE, not the muffin.
See how that works? The word has multiple meanings! SHOCKING! More news at 11!
The same way synthetic oil is still called oil, a fleece like filter material can be called a fleece filter.

Even so you tried to have this guy install the wrong (non-fleece) filter, that could have caused him a lot of trouble. Either way, everyone knows the truth now. Go ahead and post what you will, the facts are now clear.

vettdvr

If we are getting into textiles what weave are you recommending. A semi-twill or standard square weave. Does one filter better than the other? NUTS.

Goatman

I'd recommened the Amsoil EA microfiber filters. As stated earlier, too bad they don't make one for this application. I guess the sheep still aren't safe in some parts of the country.

TMAllison

I hear MB's fleece filters are made from minature sheep so surely will filter equally as well as the microfiber filter Amsoil private labels.

Goatman

When it comes to sheep, I'll give you the expert label, that's for sure.