P06DA00 Code, M276 Engine, Need Clarification
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WOW, thank you all so much for sharing this. I've been driving MB for 20+years, the 276/ 278 for awhile, probably 6+ 320/350/400/550 and was not aware of this at all. Just disconnected by sensor from my CLS550, scanned for codes, got the P06DA00 and took it for a test ride. Man she rips! It has always been a spirited car and its not like a tune but it is much more responsive to me and my SOTP dyno feels improved. I also have piece of mind I have proper oil pressure at all times not just when I'm stomping on it, frankly I'm doing 70 on backroads and I'm only at 1700ish RPM. Anyway, thanks for the heads up on this tweak. Now I can't wait for my wife to be home to "force a code" on her ML400. Thanks again, Tim
ECU will notice that and hand over more gas on-demand.
Rock solid accelerator instead laggy slowpoke
5k Mi oil change should from now on no longer be burned black.
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Thanks!
Thank you for all the research and validations! I confidently pulled the plug on my 2018 GLC 300 with the M274. I'm a go for normal oil pressure.
Indeed, the piston oil squirters must now be active at lower RMPs as the car comes up to temp so much quicker. My engine is noticeably smoother and responsive in every way. A wonderful discovery. Thanks again.
Disconnected!
Top view
Used a rubber cap to ward off the elements
Ran connector up and away from moving parts
Added a rubber cap to the connector and zip tied it into place
No CEL on the dash after a couple hundred miles of grins. I will check for and expect the P06DA00 code when I change my oil at 5K miles here in a bit. So thrilled with this mod.
Indeed, the piston oil squirters must now be active at lower RMPs as the car comes up to temp so much quicker. My engine is noticeably smoother and responsive in every way. A wonderful discovery. Thanks again.
Disconnected!
Top view
Used a rubber cap to ward off the elements
Ran connector up and away from moving parts
Added a rubber cap to the connector and zip tied it into place
No CEL on the dash after a couple hundred miles of grins. I will check for and expect the P06DA00 code when I change my oil at 5K miles here in a bit. So thrilled with this mod.
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FROM MOD1 TO MOD2.1....: PISTONS SPRAYED
Thank you for all the research and validations! I confidently pulled the plug on my 2018 GLC 300 with the M274. I'm a go for normal oil pressure.
Indeed, the piston oil squirters must now be active at lower RMPs as the car comes up to temp so much quicker. My engine is noticeably smoother and responsive in every way. A wonderful discovery. Thanks again.
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No CEL on the dash after a couple hundred miles of grins. I will check for and expect the P06DA00 code when I change my oil at 5K miles here in a bit. So thrilled with this mod.
Indeed, the piston oil squirters must now be active at lower RMPs as the car comes up to temp so much quicker. My engine is noticeably smoother and responsive in every way. A wonderful discovery. Thanks again.
..../...
No CEL on the dash after a couple hundred miles of grins. I will check for and expect the P06DA00 code when I change my oil at 5K miles here in a bit. So thrilled with this mod.
Currently your active piston cooling remains limited to above 2000.RPM by low viscosity. The $5 fix is simple.
Before you replace your new 5w40 oil, test a booster shot to cancel limited cooling. Read here!
HOW: Simply dump about half a quart of 15w50 in your existing 5000.Mi old oil. Then drive and let ECU adapt your engine VVT torque and new shifts points.
--> Notice extreme heat becoming normal with effective piston spraying. Now spraying becomes effective below 2k.RPM for everyday driving speed.
You need to park in an indoor enclosed garage to feel the difference - Coolant gauge won't show any difference.
Say goodbye to leaky sensors, burned oil and scored cylinders - Nice and easy from your friends at MBW.
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This is a very interesting thread. As someone whom has extensive background with German cars..... How many miles have you all now gone with the solenoid just disconnected?? This fault will never set the Light? I personally own a GLC300 and after reading this will try unplugging it and see what happens over the next day or so.
update: From what I Take, it must be dependent on software level. As soon as mine is unplugged, then check engine light is on. I have also seen multiple cars with check engine lights on and this is the only code. once the harness is replaced, The light is off. Hence, why i'm asking does it depend on software calibration?
update: From what I Take, it must be dependent on software level. As soon as mine is unplugged, then check engine light is on. I have also seen multiple cars with check engine lights on and this is the only code. once the harness is replaced, The light is off. Hence, why i'm asking does it depend on software calibration?
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This is a very interesting thread. As someone whom has extensive background with German cars..... How many miles have you all now gone with the solenoid just disconnected?? This fault will never set the Light? I personally own a GLC300 and after reading this will try unplugging it and see what happens over the next day or so.
Now on how long has a car been tested explicitly, or unknowingly without the solenoid. Here is a video with YouTuber experience after 10K miles.
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This is a very interesting thread. As someone whom has extensive background with German cars..... How many miles have you all now gone with the solenoid just disconnected?? This fault will never set the Light? I personally own a GLC300 and after reading this will try unplugging it and see what happens over the next day or so.
update: From what I Take, it must be dependent on software level. As soon as mine is unplugged, then check engine light is on. I have also seen multiple cars with check engine lights on and this is the only code. once the harness is replaced, The light is off. Hence, why i'm asking does it depend on software calibration?
update: From what I Take, it must be dependent on software level. As soon as mine is unplugged, then check engine light is on. I have also seen multiple cars with check engine lights on and this is the only code. once the harness is replaced, The light is off. Hence, why i'm asking does it depend on software calibration?
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This is a very interesting thread. As someone whom has extensive background with German cars..... How many miles have you all now gone with the solenoid just disconnected?? This fault will never set the Light? I personally own a GLC300 and after reading this will try unplugging it and see what happens over the next day or so.
update: From what I Take, it must be dependent on software level. As soon as mine is unplugged, then check engine light is on. I have also seen multiple cars with check engine lights on and this is the only code. once the harness is replaced, The light is off. Hence, why i'm asking does it depend on software calibration?
update: From what I Take, it must be dependent on software level. As soon as mine is unplugged, then check engine light is on. I have also seen multiple cars with check engine lights on and this is the only code. once the harness is replaced, The light is off. Hence, why i'm asking does it depend on software calibration?
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Check Engine Light may vary
This is a very interesting thread. As someone whom has extensive background with German cars..... How many miles have you all now gone with the solenoid just disconnected?? This fault will never set the Light? I personally own a GLC300 and after reading this will try unplugging it and see what happens over the next day or so.
update: From what I Take, it must be dependent on software level. As soon as mine is unplugged, then check engine light is on. I have also seen multiple cars with check engine lights on and this is the only code. once the harness is replaced, The light is off. Hence, why i'm asking does it depend on software calibration?
update: From what I Take, it must be dependent on software level. As soon as mine is unplugged, then check engine light is on. I have also seen multiple cars with check engine lights on and this is the only code. once the harness is replaced, The light is off. Hence, why i'm asking does it depend on software calibration?
On my 2018 GLC 300 I do not get the check engine light displayed with the harness to the solenoid unplugged. I do see the code present with my Autel scanner. I had my car into my local MB dealer last week. With their full scan and inspection, they reported that "no codes are present". So, they disregarded that code because I know that it is there. I doubt they noticed the wire unplugged, and I did not say anything. They recommended a transmission service in the fall. That's it.
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On my 2018 GLC 300 I do not get the check engine light displayed with the harness to the solenoid unplugged. I do see the code present with my Autel scanner. I had my car into my local MB dealer last week. With their full scan and inspection, they reported that "no codes are present". So, they disregarded that code because I know that it is there. I doubt they noticed the wire unplugged, and I did not say anything. They recommended a transmission service in the fall. That's it.
WRT the tranny service, how many miles and time since the last service? It's a service I would not skip. Maybe your dealership will allow you to provide the parts (FCP Euro sells the complete kit with OEM parts) and you can save about $100. Mine was kind enough to allow me to provide parts and pay only for labor.
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That confirms that dealerships are following the TIPS instructions to ignore the code. Hmmmm!
WRT the tranny service, how many miles and time since the last service? It's a service I would not skip. Maybe your dealership will allow you to provide the parts (FCP Euro sells the complete kit with OEM parts) and you can save about $100. Mine was kind enough to allow me to provide parts and pay only for labor.
WRT the tranny service, how many miles and time since the last service? It's a service I would not skip. Maybe your dealership will allow you to provide the parts (FCP Euro sells the complete kit with OEM parts) and you can save about $100. Mine was kind enough to allow me to provide parts and pay only for labor.
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2017, and I also unplugged a 2018 Glc 300 here and the check engine light immediately came on also, cannot clear. So they must have done an update to software on some of these including mine, it was at a dealer under CPO, with the fault present and they rectified it, new harness, solenoid, and software. I was also thinking of buying a cheap sender and just externally plugging it in. Anyone try that?
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When installing an external dummy oil pump solenoid...... do they cover it?? like a ziplock bag and some zipties?? lol
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2017, and I also unplugged a 2018 Glc 300 here and the check engine light immediately came on also, cannot clear. So they must have done an update to software on some of these including mine, it was at a dealer under CPO, with the fault present and they rectified it, new harness, solenoid, and software. I was also thinking of buying a cheap sender and just externally plugging it in. Anyone try that?
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[QUOTE=scaryfast;8953120]Yes, I purchased a solenoid from AliExpress for $21 just to have in case I needed to connect it to the engine harness wire to remove the error code for a CEL or dealership work. I've seen others cover the solenoid end with shrink tubing and some silicone caulk and then zip tie it in a safe place connected.
That's awesome, I'm ordering one now. I'll plug it in and tie it away.
That's awesome, I'm ordering one now. I'll plug it in and tie it away.
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new experimental testers...
This experimental testing likely voids warranty coverage and may result in total loses. I dont recommend anyone to test MOD's. In California air causes cancer and idiots chase police in the streets...
Some of the best answers are available in the AMG thread in particular a comprehensive OP summary.
Experimental testers have reported differences based on engine types and oil viscosity.
Benefits may be those associated with better circulation of an "MB-Approved oil" :
- Reduced power losses
- Advanced GDI injection timings
- Minimal crankcase blow-by pressure
- Improved vacuum boosted brakes!
- Normalized piston heat
- Possible prevention of scored bores
- Unburned oil normal service life
- Unburned spark coils and CPS oil leaker
Your mileage will vary ie. No assumed claims of fitness to current engine condition... specifically oil sump cleanliness.
"MB Approved oil" is though essential to retain "dry-lube package" benefits.
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Welcome!
This experimental testing likely voids warranty coverage and may result in total loses. I dont recommend anyone to test MOD's. In California air causes cancer and idiots chase police in the streets...
Some of the best answers are available in the AMG thread in particular a comprehensive OP summary.
Experimental testers have reported differences based on engine types and oil viscosity.
Benefits may be those associated with better circulation of an "MB-Approved oil" :
Your mileage will vary ie. No assumed claims of fitness to current engine condition... specifically oil sump cleanliness.
"MB Approved oil" is though essential to retain "dry-lube package" benefits.
This experimental testing likely voids warranty coverage and may result in total loses. I dont recommend anyone to test MOD's. In California air causes cancer and idiots chase police in the streets...
Some of the best answers are available in the AMG thread in particular a comprehensive OP summary.
Experimental testers have reported differences based on engine types and oil viscosity.
Benefits may be those associated with better circulation of an "MB-Approved oil" :
- Reduced power losses
- Advanced GDI injection timings
- Minimal crankcase blow-by pressure
- Improved vacuum boosted brakes!
- Normalized piston heat
- Possible prevention of scored bores
- Unburned oil normal service life
- Unburned spark coils and CPS oil leaker
Your mileage will vary ie. No assumed claims of fitness to current engine condition... specifically oil sump cleanliness.
"MB Approved oil" is though essential to retain "dry-lube package" benefits.