M113 oil pan discussion
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M113 oil pan discussion
Hello, I'm building a volvo 740 wit a m113 5.0 from an s500,120k km abt 70k miles 540€, just one problem, volvo mounted the oil pan in the back ant the s500 in the front, investigating i foun out that clk sl cls ane e class have the sump in the back, but the design of it changes.
My question is, what do i need to change apart from the upper and lower oil pan? im guessing oil pick up tube? maybe the entire oil pump?
I havent seen any information regarding the oil pan types so we could gather information for peoplr looking for a cheap reliable swap.
Thaks in advance!
My question is, what do i need to change apart from the upper and lower oil pan? im guessing oil pick up tube? maybe the entire oil pump?
I havent seen any information regarding the oil pan types so we could gather information for peoplr looking for a cheap reliable swap.
Thaks in advance!
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Do you have room for the rear sump version? Because I believe the oil pump is still up front, still leaving a bulge sticking down.
I assume you considered the options of moving the eng fwd and/or up. Or moving the offending parts on the car, which I'm guessing is the steering but there's likely room to move it a little.
I'd lower the eng in there and see what I have to work with. If the rear sump version looks like it'll work then I suppose I'd look at used pans and engines on junkyard websites because, thankfully, they take a lot of pix from different angles. Maybe from those pix you can see if a rear sump is a simple bolt on or not. I would think yes, but MB likes to complicate things so who knows. If no, you could mod your existing pan.
Should I assume you're not in the US? Because here the default eng swap for just about everything is a small block Chevy, which is likely smaller and the sump/pump is in back.
I assume you considered the options of moving the eng fwd and/or up. Or moving the offending parts on the car, which I'm guessing is the steering but there's likely room to move it a little.
I'd lower the eng in there and see what I have to work with. If the rear sump version looks like it'll work then I suppose I'd look at used pans and engines on junkyard websites because, thankfully, they take a lot of pix from different angles. Maybe from those pix you can see if a rear sump is a simple bolt on or not. I would think yes, but MB likes to complicate things so who knows. If no, you could mod your existing pan.
Should I assume you're not in the US? Because here the default eng swap for just about everything is a small block Chevy, which is likely smaller and the sump/pump is in back.
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Yes I do have room volvo mounts the sump in the back in the 740 and engines are roughly te same size, the rear sump verision isnt very low in the front, if not i could modify the subframe, searching on the internet sl r230 engines are the cheapest and i think i will buy the sl engine directly, pump changes the pick up point is lower, you need the pick up tube both oil pans and the oil dip stick is inthe back.
Yes I do live in europe, there is not much options for a cheap durable v8s, bmw's v8's are at best questionable and manual gearboxes are super expensive, toyotas UZ are through the roof becouse its japanese and there is no direct fit manual tranny, and american v8 are super rare heare an ls is easyly 4k and modular v8 from ford at least 2k and finding spares is dificult, so for a v8 is the smartest decision the m113, cheap and robust 6 speed bcs nsg510 are common in europe and tuning potential with amg parts plus it should be bulletproof and is a unique swap, only some guys in sweeden swaped a 4.3.
Yes I do live in europe, there is not much options for a cheap durable v8s, bmw's v8's are at best questionable and manual gearboxes are super expensive, toyotas UZ are through the roof becouse its japanese and there is no direct fit manual tranny, and american v8 are super rare heare an ls is easyly 4k and modular v8 from ford at least 2k and finding spares is dificult, so for a v8 is the smartest decision the m113, cheap and robust 6 speed bcs nsg510 are common in europe and tuning potential with amg parts plus it should be bulletproof and is a unique swap, only some guys in sweeden swaped a 4.3.
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2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
The M113 will give you 300hp. The M276 3.5 V6 will give you approximately the same hp with a lot less weight and smaller footprint. But I don't know how it would mount. BUT the M276 is more complex with it's direct injection and high-pressure fuel pump. The M113 is bulletproof and simpler. An M113K would be awesome and a true sleeper in a 740 (though I thing the 240 was the last great Volvo).
