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Old Nov 20, 2025 | 06:25 PM
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Using ChatGPT to Diagnose Problems

This is a pretty cool video...

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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 04:57 AM
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We now frequently get patients in for a plethora of issues....who then want to quote ChatGPT diagnosis and what not. We invite them to go to "Dr. Google" and have Dr. Google take care of their surgical and radiation procedures.

That said, when side to side "computers" had a greater than 20% failure rate as compared to human eyes in gastroenterology examinations. Many criteria (with a human body) that is outside the parameters of a binary comparision by an AI system. Much akin to "how do they drive the car" as a consideration for an auto mechanic.
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I don't quite like the idea of AI taking over our lives but hey maybe I just might have to accept and move on.
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We now frequently get patients in for a plethora of issues....who then want to quote ChatGPT diagnosis and what not. We invite them to go to "Dr. Google" and have Dr. Google take care of their surgical and radiation procedures.

That said, when side to side "computers" had a greater than 20% failure rate as compared to human eyes in gastroenterology examinations. Many criteria (with a human body) that is outside the parameters of a binary comparision by an AI system. Much akin to "how do they drive the car" as a consideration for an auto mechanic.
Of course, one day AI will get good enough. Just like more and more, as data are gathered and trends are identified, DNA research is identifying certain diseases that have an increased likelihood of occurring based on chromosomal differences in people.

I am not a fan of AI, but I cannot deny that AI can be effective in solving some problems. And, I think for good or bad, it is here to stay. The genie is out! I would love to see AI used (as it probably already is) in research addressing health issues. I see now that Florida is researching the use of Ivermectin to treat certain forms of cancer. Other research is showing as Fenbendazole as a treatment for certain cancers. Interesting that they are both anti-parasitical drugs.
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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
I don't quite like the idea of AI taking over our lives but hey maybe I just might have to accept and move on.
Dylan Thomas nailed it:

"Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night."

we should continue to push and prod against artificial intelligence, and let it work for us, not let it work against us, and we need to shine the light on all of the concerns and risks and potential downfalls of it before we just allow it into our worlds. Doing otherwise may be our death, actual or spiritual.

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Originally Posted by GTIBlack
I see now that Florida is researching .
???? Who in Florida???? While I am currently working with a number of MD in a number of specialties....Derm, Psych, IM, and on and on....we have seen some amazing variances with (Pulse) PEMF (as opposed to Gainswave) in cancer and neurological treatments. Shocking results for female uniary incontinence. Lithotriper for any "itis" as is a common treatment in Europe and Canada (only in the US approved to stones, plantar facitis and ED).

It is not "Florida" doing an research (as a government)...probably is some fine folks in Florida.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
I don't quite like the idea of AI taking over our lives but hey maybe I just might have to accept and move on.

You will own nothing...and you will like it.......now, where is my Wall-E VHS? I am going to go into the closet and watch on my all in one TV VCR....


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???? Who in Florida???? While I am currently working with a number of MD in a number of specialties....Derm, Psych, IM, and on and on....we have seen some amazing variances with (Pulse) PEMF (as opposed to Gainswave) in cancer and neurological treatments. Shocking results for female uniary incontinence. Lithotriper for any "itis" as is a common treatment in Europe and Canada (only in the US approved to stones, plantar facitis and ED).

It is not "Florida" doing an research (as a government)...probably is some fine folks in Florida.
2nd (or 3rd) paragraph from the bottom in the linked press release, ivermectin is mentioned as a treatment for cancer.

"Further, priority will be given to projects that focus on nutrition, and the repurposing of generic drugs such as ivermectin for cancer treatment."

https://www.floridahealth.gov/newsro...n.Fund.pr.html

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I was out to dinner with my parents tonight and I was telling them a funny story about how I was diagnosed with shingles this summer. (Not really funny as it was the right side of my face and right next to my eye and extremely painful and even months later, the nerves have not totally recovered )
I’ve been working on building a business which I can very happily say I finally closed the raise this week and get to move forward but over the past year and a half I really haven’t slept much and my body didn’t appreciate that. Literally three hours in a row max… I had a symptom of what felt like a chemical burn on my skin after using a disinfectant spray in my house. Historically, I’ve seen this spray cause breathing issues in some people so I am very careful about how I use it, but it was as if it got on my scalp and I didn’t wash a little circle of it. Within a day that area turned into a bump on my scalp and I was like what the F. When I spoke to my partner about this and mentioned it might be shingles from what I researched she thought I was insane and was telling me to put my symptoms into ChatGPT. So I put random symptoms into ChatGPT, not mentioning any idea of what I thought it might be and the only answer it came back with was shingles.

When I went to the doctor and said hey, these are my symptoms and for what it’s worth and I know you hate this but ChatGPT told me it was shingles. The nurse kinda laughed at me and said OK. Well, we’re gonna check you for strep anyway. So I went back into the waiting area in the back and in a couple minutes, the doctor walks in and says hey I overheard what you said and you absolutely have shingles. No need for a strep test. For me, I described the symptoms exactly as they were, and there was only one answer.

I think what is most important is that anybody that uses any tools understands the limit of the value of the tool or the accuracy or precision of the tool and checks it and weighs it against other known reliable resources. Unfortunately we know on the Internet that most people believe the first thing they read and are willing to die on a hill for it.

Pertaining to this thread is that I had seen that diagnostic video posted originally and have also been watching some people that have been trying to do base tuning of their cars using AI and HP tuners with some limited success. I’ve not seen any results that are better than humans at this juncture.

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AI will never be able to predict human behavior, at least individually or small groups.
It might be able to apply probability with some accuracy to large groups.
By definition, human behavior is unpredictable.

AI will never be able to mimic hunches, educated guesses, or intuition.
AI will never be able to calculate the value of pi to its last digit.
There are a lot of actions, predictions and calculations that AI will never be able to do, with the exception possibly of AI developing into positronics or some such.

Medicine is an art, and a practice. It certainly has elements of a hard science where concrete answers can be established.
But if medicine is somehow transformed to a science, it will remove the human element of relieving pain and disease, which I can’t discern as a good thing.
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Dylan Thomas nailed it:

"Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
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we should continue to push and prod against artificial intelligence, and let it work for us, not let it work against us, and we need to shine the light on all of the concerns and risks and potential downfalls of it before we just allow it into our worlds. Doing otherwise may be our death, actual or spiritual.
I am still worried about us becoming Wall. E
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You will own nothing...and you will like it.......now, where is my Wall-E VHS? I am going to go into the closet and watch on my all in one TV VCR....

Yes Wall-E! I remember. I knew I heard of that before. We are becoming that : (
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the only answer it came back with was shingles..
Any MD/DO/ARNP who (who is PCP or ID) who missed that guess in under two seconds should not be practicing medicine. I cant figre out what the hell a strep test would be for...and, this came out just yesterday.


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Any MD/DO/ARNP who (who is PCP or ID) who missed that guess in under two seconds should not be practicing medicine. I cant figre out what the hell a strep test would be for...and, this came out just yesterday.


https://youtu.be/ApvwXQp5qqQ?si=Rjlu84x_5fq9IQM8
Ha! For a minute there, i thought that was one of those Asian pimple popping videos.
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There are probably some questionable clinics, who purposely overuse diagnosis tests to pad patient’s Medicare billing.
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