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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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This is my car- I don't mind the negative responses; everyone is entitled. It is however a great car, and within my narrow scope of connections, the only one I know of. For someone that wants a genuine article it probably cannot be duplicated (at least here in the States). It may not sell for 30, but it will sell for more than 20 I think. For someone, it is a ton of car for the money, and surely worth more than a new, garden variety Nissan. It's fast, solid, good looking, reliable, comfortable, and above all rare- I only know of another that did this (albeit in 1998). I own older performance MBZ's, a 92 500e, 04 Renntech S500, an original 6.0 Hammer, and a Brabus-tuned A160 (which you can see in the photos). All the cars are different and unique in some way. They are not all better or worse...just different driving experiences. I also have a CLS63...good car too but not nearly as special as the other ones (not even as special as the lowly Aclass). The CLS is mass produced and anyone can buy one. It is fast- faster than all the others but at the same time it is soul-less and definitely not as special. Even the build quality is not as good as the 500e which is 16 years older. That's the point with these cars...they have a unique place in the lineup and when you drive and own one, you will appreciate it. When you open the garage in the morning, you get behind the wheel of something that took many man-hours to build...it's a great feeling. I will put the car for sale on Ebay most likely and will get more aggressive about selling it. Maybe I will be shocked, but I think someone will like it and pay a little something for it. After all, that person will be paying about 130k less. A good compromise I should think?
Well put. You have a cool car on your hands, regardless of what a small minority says. Just have to find the right buyer. Good luck with the sale.
Old Feb 16, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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brabus has an iconic following...

this car is very very rare and if i was the seller i would take my time selling it as the right customer will come along. depreciation is a non issue in this case.

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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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They are fairly quick, the e60 had a 0-60 of 4.7 last I checked. The fastest sedan in the world for the late 90's was based off this car... and built by Brabus.

I tend to side with Ted, but this is an interesting debate. I have been watching these cars sell for a few years. In 2007, you could not touch an e60/65 for under $30k anywhere.

Now I understand it is what it is, but in the past year I have seen one Renntech and 2 Brabus modified ones sell on ebay. One had a bit higher miles, but none of them ever reached $10k, with all the documentation, pretty much everything this car has besides the mag article. The second one I saw was almost identical to this, higher mileage, and sold for $8k (I was literally near tears that I could not pull together the cash quick enough)!

Times have changed. w210/w211s of 2007 and 2008 are dirt cheap nowadays. I agree, this is a rare car, he might get $20k+ if the right buyer comes along, but the only way he will sell it for that is if he finds the perfect buyer, which I doubt would happen at all, if anytime soon.
Old Feb 17, 2009 | 01:47 AM
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Agreed....seller will need to have patience, as most folks in the market for an MB are not nearly knowledgeable enough to know what this even is.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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........One thing to keep in mind when selling a 1997 car is that no major bank is going to finance it. If you find a one that is willing to finance a 1997 E420, the value of the car whether Brabus or no Brabus will be the same as the value of a regular 1997 E420. This means that the only potential buyer will be a cash buyer. Now, you have to envision a cash buyer who has $30K cash in this economy and is willing to put into buying a car. Such buyers exist, but then also hve to factor in the huge number of choices such a buyer comands in todays market. The person will have to not desire an SL55, W211 E55, CLS 55 etc. The person will have to specifically have $30K cash in their his/her pocket be looking for nothing else other than a 1997 Brabus E420.

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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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can you please post recent picks of the car.
thanks

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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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NICE!!! Any pic of the interior and under the hood?
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
........One thing to keep in mind when selling a 1997 car is that no major bank is going to finance it. If you find a one that is willing to finance a 1997 E420, the value of the car whether Brabus or no Brabus will be the same as the value of a regular 1997 E420. This means that the only potential buyer will be a cash buyer. Now, you have to envision a cash buyer who has $30K cash in this economy and is willing to put into buying a car. Such buyers exist, but then also hve to factor in the huge number of choices such a buyer comands in todays market. The person will have to not desire an SL55, W211 E55, CLS 55 etc. The person will have to specifically have $30K cash in their his/her pocket be looking for nothing else other than a 1997 Brabus E420.

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Yeah, but you never know if buyers have a fetish for the late 90's E class benzos.
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:20 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:28 AM
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Yeah, but you never know if buyers have a fetish for the late 90's E class benzos.
.......that is my point exactly. Even then you have the 1999 E55 AMG you can get for $9K $10-11K if you adjust for the better mileage in the Brabus car in question.

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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
........One thing to keep in mind when selling a 1997 car is that no major bank is going to finance it. If you find a one that is willing to finance a 1997 E420, the value of the car whether Brabus or no Brabus will be the same as the value of a regular 1997 E420. This means that the only potential buyer will be a cash buyer. Now, you have to envision a cash buyer who has $30K cash in this economy and is willing to put into buying a car. Such buyers exist, but then also hve to factor in the huge number of choices such a buyer comands in todays market. The person will have to not desire an SL55, W211 E55, CLS 55 etc. The person will have to specifically have $30K cash in their his/her pocket be looking for nothing else other than a 1997 Brabus E420.

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Great points Ted.
Old Feb 22, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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true beauty! dont let the haters bring it down! you cant put a price on something so rare.. worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.. why dont you guys watch barrett jackson sometime and see what people are willing to pay for cars.. 20-30k is a bargain.. i would trade my 55 for that thing any day!
Old Feb 22, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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.. why dont you guys watch barrett jackson sometime and see what people are willing to pay for cars.. 20-30k is a bargain..
Better idea, let the owner take it to Barrett Jackson and let him run it across the stage with no reserve.If he gets more than 30,he can laugh all the way to the bank.If he doesn't he can cry on tv for the viewing audience to see.
Old Sep 3, 2009 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by johnghini
Hi,

Selling a genuine Brabus E65. Converted on a zero mile 1997 E420 by Bev Hill MBZ / Brabus. Black with Black/gray, 38k miles. Excellent condition / one owner Los Angeles. All Brabus equipment. Motor Trend article on the very car: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...420/index.html You can email me at john@gmpc.com and I will send details. Price is 30k... or around there. Thx.
Hi John.

Is your car still for sale?

I've sent you a PM.


-arnt-

PS. If someone have the contact info to John - please forward a PM.

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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
........One thing to keep in mind when selling a 1997 car is that no major bank is going to finance it. If you find a one that is willing to finance a 1997 E420, the value of the car whether Brabus or no Brabus will be the same as the value of a regular 1997 E420. This means that the only potential buyer will be a cash buyer. Now, you have to envision a cash buyer who has $30K cash in this economy and is willing to put into buying a car. Such buyers exist, but then also hve to factor in the huge number of choices such a buyer comands in todays market. The person will have to not desire an SL55, W211 E55, CLS 55 etc. The person will have to specifically have $30K cash in their his/her pocket be looking for nothing else other than a 1997 Brabus E420.

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If you have to finance this car at $30K ($10K down /$20K for 60 months) then this is not the car for you. Very rare cars take a little longer to sell and require the right buyer. There will be someone who wants to add a unique car to their stable, one with a unique build story to go with it. When you find them, he or she will be the type of buyer that will simply write you a check.

Good luck very nice ride indeed.
Old Sep 4, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Nice car...... is that Lambo also for sale ??
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Originally Posted by SPORTPK
true beauty! dont let the haters bring it down! you cant put a price on something so rare.. worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.. why dont you guys watch barrett jackson sometime and see what people are willing to pay for cars.. 20-30k is a bargain.. i would trade my 55 for that thing any day!
Man ! you have a very nice looking E55 !
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This car is fast. Watched it put up quite a fight to a w220 S65 at highway speeds. Revs wicked fast, sound gnarly and simply feels and looks like something very special.



Ted, I don't personally know you, but you're part of the reason I dislike internet forums!

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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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This car is fast. Watched it put up quite a fight to a w220 S65 at highway speeds. Revs wicked fast, sound gnarly and simply feels and looks like something very special.
The new owner found a technical problem which was reducing power. With that fixed, the car is a rocketship. I suspect that Motor Trend tested it when the problem still existed, which is why their numbers are so low. The fact that it ran as strong as it did while not running properly is a testament to the potential.



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Ted, I don't personally know you, but you're part of the reason I dislike internet forums!
+1. Talk about a clueless troll. Unreal. Quicksilver500 summed it up pretty well in his posts.

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Do you know what the technical problem was exactly?
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The new owner found a technical problem which was reducing power. With that fixed, the car is a rocketship. I suspect that Motor Trend tested it when the problem still existed, which is why their numbers are so low. The fact that it ran as strong as it did while not running properly is a testament to the potential.




+1. Talk about a clueless troll. Unreal. Quicksilver500 summed it up pretty well in his posts.


.......thanks for the love! Last time I checked I wasn't on sale, but the car was. Now that you have expressed your love for me, did want to say something about the car or the market?
https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...ml#post5562079


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Do you know what the technical problem was exactly?
IIRC it was a bad wire on one of the sensors. Difficult to diagnose but relatively easy to fix.

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Old Mar 1, 2013 | 11:23 PM
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You have a rare car with an amazing story. I am not sure what the point of the negativity is but this is your car and your sale. I understand we have freedom of speech but the old adage still rings true (something about what to do when I dont have anything nice to say)

I suspect you are not hurting for money and you can afford to wait for the right buyer. Oh heck, you might even afford to keep the car if indeed the right buyer isnt out there. Anyway, good luck selling this remarkable car - what a great story behind it. I have dreamed of owning a Brabus Mercedes but it is still out of my price range.


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