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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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jeep srt8 vs ml63

I sold my Jeep SRT8 and bought an ML63. The Jeep is really quick and performance was not lacking, but after driving it a bit it is too rough riding and pretty cheap interior. Iloved the exterior styling but the interior and ride was just not acceptable. The ML63 has the power and the comfort to live with by comparision. The price difference is huge, but for my money the ML63 does the trick. I do think the Jeep is faster and corners harder, but driving the stiff suspension gets old quickly.
Old Apr 28, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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I sold my Jeep SRT8 and bought an ML63. The Jeep is really quick and performance was not lacking, but after driving it a bit it is too rough riding and pretty cheap interior. Iloved the exterior styling but the interior and ride was just not acceptable. The ML63 has the power and the comfort to live with by comparision. The price difference is huge, but for my money the ML63 does the trick. I do think the Jeep is faster and corners harder, but driving the stiff suspension gets old quickly.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
I think ML had a late start again... and you can see SRT8 doing a power braking again... i wanna see a clear race between those.
The ML did not have a late start, and the Jeep wasn't power braking. And if it was, guess what, doesn't help. The reason the Jeep jumps out like that is the gearing.

Also, if you watch that vid, and count the seconds as they tick by, you will see that the ML does not pass the Jeep until around 14 secs. And since the Jeep runs low - mid 13s in the 1/4.....by then the race is all over.

But, don't get me wrong, the ML is a SWEET rig and obviously will pull beyond 100mph.

And if you don't believe the Jeep wasn't power braking, check the vid from inside the Jeep. Sounds to me the ML was power braking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md-agGEj5zA

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Old May 4, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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hmm?

you're right. It is over by the 1/4...from previous thread

0-60 0-100 0-120 30-70 1/4mile

ML63 4.5 10.9 15.9 4.4 13.1@109

Jeep 4.4 11.4 17.7 5.1 13.2@105
Old May 4, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by barho
The ML did not have a late start, and the Jeep wasn't power braking. And if it was, guess what, doesn't help. The reason the Jeep jumps out like that is the gearing.

Also, if you watch that vid, and count the seconds as they tick by, you will see that the ML does not pass the Jeep until around 14 secs. And since the Jeep runs low - mid 13s in the 1/4.....by then the race is all over.

But, don't get me wrong, the ML is a SWEET rig and obviously will pull beyond 100mph.

And if you don't believe the Jeep wasn't power braking, check the vid from inside the Jeep. Sounds to me the ML was power braking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md-agGEj5zA

It was a late start because judging by performance numbers the difference to 60 mph is 0.1 sec and in the video Jeep tooka lead of 1.5, 2 cars? And you saying they had even start? Wake up bud, Jeep clearly had an erlier start or ML63 had a late one, whatever you like better. They are almost identical to 60 mphs I just dont see how 0.1 sec difference transfers to a 2 car length, maybe a hood.
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Well, then the driver of that ML is HORRIBLE!!!

That makes two videos now of him getting his A$$ handed to him. These two of the same race, and the other from a dig at night.

Look, as I said, I like the ML, and I am not ******* it. They both put up pretty comparable numbers.

The ML made the most recent BIG step, come 2009 The Jeep will come with the 6.4L HEMI producing 500+HP. WHEN WILL IT ALL END!?

As a fan of both.......I hope NEVER!
Old May 5, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by barho
Well, then the driver of that ML is HORRIBLE!!!

That makes two videos now of him getting his A$$ handed to him. These two of the same race, and the other from a dig at night.

Look, as I said, I like the ML, and I am not ******* it. They both put up pretty comparable numbers.

The ML made the most recent BIG step, come 2009 The Jeep will come with the 6.4L HEMI producing 500+HP. WHEN WILL IT ALL END!?

As a fan of both.......I hope NEVER!
O yea i totally dig both of them for wahtever they are... i'd totally drive srt jeep for the money it is a very very good performer!
Old May 5, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Old May 5, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
It was a late start because judging by performance numbers the difference to 60 mph is 0.1 sec and in the video Jeep tooka lead of 1.5, 2 cars? And you saying they had even start? Wake up bud, Jeep clearly had an erlier start or ML63 had a late one, whatever you like better. They are almost identical to 60 mphs I just dont see how 0.1 sec difference transfers to a 2 car length, maybe a hood.
Also, Bob, not trying to start this all over again, cause as I said I do like the ML, but there is a very good reason why the Jeep jumped 1.5-2 car lengths from the start while they both have similar 0-60 times.

The axle ratio for the Jeep is 3.73. The ratio on the ML is 3.45. The higher the ratio number, the greater torque that will be available at the rear wheels. Thus, this is why the Jeep jumps like mad out in front. If you watch the video again, you will see that at 4 secs in, both vehicles are going a similar speed (the Jeep is no longer pulling). That same speed????? Probably 60 mph, thus the similar 0-60 times.

However, from 0-10, 0-20, 0-30......the Jeep just pounces. I assure you, if you haven't run against one yet, go find someone who has one,and you will see what I mean. If you lived in the Philly area, I would have love to meet up, if for nothing more than admiring each others rigs, but, alas.....you live in Canada

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Old May 6, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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There must be something else too. Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but final drive ratio alone doesn't mean all that much. The ratio of first gear and final drive together should determine torque available. The jeep has 5 gears, the ML 7. ML is 4.38 in 1st and Jeep is 3.73 . Perhaps the lighter weight and maybe the SRT8 engine comes into the power band quicker?
Old May 6, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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I saw a Jeep SRT8 turning today, so I slowed down so it could catch up. I was hoping to have some fun, but it was a woman driving it!


AND SHE WAS PUTTING ON MAKEUP!!! argh.
yea seen a few ladys driving them i was like wtf
Old May 7, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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SRT8 = girls' truck?

ML63 = man's truck?

Just a thought.
Old May 7, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
SRT8 = girls' truck?

ML63 = man's truck?

Just a thought.

Haha, SRT8? maybe if I had a teenage girl? I bought the ML63 for my woman.....Turbo S = Man's truck


Im only kidding around, all 3 vehicles are top notch for their intended purpose.
Old May 7, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
SRT8 = girls' truck?

ML63 = man's truck?

Just a thought.



Seems to me that the smooth luxury of the ML screams lady's ride much more than the raw power of the "in your face" HEMI powered Jeep

Check this recent vid out. Jeep vs. SL55 AMG. Jeep even pulls it at the beginning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQsZU9lw3z0

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Old May 8, 2007 | 02:34 AM
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and you all were just saying seeing chicks in SRT8s................

For those didn't get the humor, please refer to post #211............
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Check this recent vid out. Jeep vs. SL55 AMG. Jeep even pulls it at the beginning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQsZU9lw3z0[/QUOTE]

We must be watching a different video. With the shifting camera angle it's a little hard to tell, but it looks like the the MB is right there and begins pulling ahead around the 5 second mark, and continues pulling away.
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Originally Posted by crjag
Check this recent vid out. Jeep vs. SL55 AMG. Jeep even pulls it at the beginning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQsZU9lw3z0
We must be watching a different video. With the shifting camera angle it's a little hard to tell, but it looks like the the MB is right there and begins pulling ahead around the 5 second mark, and continues pulling away.[/QUOTE]


OK, you're wrong. Thee Jeep pulls ahead by about a hood length, then the 55 begins to pull. It's tough to see, but the guy who made the video posts on the cherokeesrt8 forum. Now, he does have a CAI and exhaust, but that doesn't do much for these Jeeps.

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=4201

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Old May 17, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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what do you guys think about the g55k and the srt 8 ... ? who would win that
Old May 18, 2007 | 02:29 AM
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what do you guys think about the g55k and the srt 8 ... ? who would win that
SRT8 unfortunatley.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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Talking Jeep Gots Flash!!!

Well..well....the Jeep SRT8 now has a flash available to level the playing field......tonight I ran at Irwindale and she ran a 8.2@83.5 DA was 1,871ft above sea level......hhhhhmmmm...........that equates to 8.10@85.59 .....and converts to a 12.64 in the 1/4 ..................."here ML...ML".....
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Unless it was Ted's G
Modded Jeep SRT8's have run 12.2 to 12.5. Unless Ted's G can do that,there's no way.
Old May 18, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Man, I can't believe this thread is still going. I don't doubt that the Jeep is quicker than my ML63? No problem at all. But so what? IT'S STILL JUST A JEEP! Fellas, if we wanted Jeeps, we'd buy Jeeps.

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I have both and im happy.. of course they're the lesser models ML 55 and Jeep limited 5.7 but they both PULL i think MY jeep pulls harder than the ML55
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SRT8 = 13.31
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