Oil Level Warning
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Oil Level Warning
Anyone else see this on their ML63? This happened to me three times now. I drive more than 100 miles in a day and the "check oil level warning" comes up on the dash. I took it to the dealer, and their answer was, "with these hand made engines, when you go on long drives, the seals expand and contract, etc." 100 freaking miles? This is my second AMG and I've NEVER heard of that crap before. 
anyone?
anyone?
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What dealer is this? I would get MBUSA involved. Tell that *** hole dealer that every engine is hand built, just that AMG uses one man per engine to build it.
I am on my 3rd AMG with 6.2 liter V8 and none of them have had high oil consumption, even with mebashing the throttle to the rev limiter everyday.
I am on my 3rd AMG with 6.2 liter V8 and none of them have had high oil consumption, even with mebashing the throttle to the rev limiter everyday.
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Have you confirmed with the dipstick that it is actually using oil?
Some vehilces where fitted with the wrong dipstick, the sensor is faulty or the instrument clustor was coded incorrectly.
If it is actually using oil, how much are you topping it up by?
Just telling a dealer it's using oil doesn't help much. Going to the dealer with numbers is the best way to get a solution.
Some vehilces where fitted with the wrong dipstick, the sensor is faulty or the instrument clustor was coded incorrectly.
If it is actually using oil, how much are you topping it up by?
Just telling a dealer it's using oil doesn't help much. Going to the dealer with numbers is the best way to get a solution.
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My ML 63 has been doing this since i bought it about 6 months ago. Now I am approaching 10k miles and find myself putting in a quart between 1000-1500 miles.
This also never has occurred to me on any of my other cars, let alone AMGs (although I had 3 engine replacements with an S600... That put me completely out of Mercedes for about 5 years. I'm revisiting and won't go this particular route - see below)
The dealer gave me the same blabber about how this will eventually go away and it related to some seal issues expanding and so on (this is part of why i chose to drive this vehicle in the previous thread).
My car is clearly *burning* oil - the oil on the dipstick actually looks slightly dirty. I have not experienced a compression loss.
In WA state, the lemon law is pretty clear on these types of issues:
While I certainly feel strongly I quality under condition #2, each time it happens I just take it in where it sits for a day adding to condition #3. I figured that I would at least get these to accumulate up since you have a little over two years to take the vehicle in under lemon.
If it were as frequent as 100 miles, I would probably choose a different track, but 1000-1500 miles I can handle dropping in some oil. Well, for another 18 months at least.
This also never has occurred to me on any of my other cars, let alone AMGs (although I had 3 engine replacements with an S600... That put me completely out of Mercedes for about 5 years. I'm revisiting and won't go this particular route - see below)
The dealer gave me the same blabber about how this will eventually go away and it related to some seal issues expanding and so on (this is part of why i chose to drive this vehicle in the previous thread).
My car is clearly *burning* oil - the oil on the dipstick actually looks slightly dirty. I have not experienced a compression loss.
In WA state, the lemon law is pretty clear on these types of issues:
A "reasonable number of attempts" has occurred when:
1. Diagnosis or repair of the same "serious safety defect" has been attempted two or more times, and the defect continues to exist. At least one attempt must occur during the "warranty period" (see What is the Warranty Period?).
* A "serious safety defect" is a life-threatening malfunction that impairs the driver’s ability to control or operate the vehicle, or creates a risk of fire or explosion; OR
2. Diagnosis or repair of the same "nonconformity" has been attempted four or more times, and the defect continues to exist. At least one attempt must occur during the "warranty period" (see What is the Warranty Period? ).
* A "nonconformity" is a defect that "substantially impairs" the use, value or safety of the motor vehicle so as to make the vehicle unreliable, unsafe or diminished in resale value for comparable vehicles; OR
3. A vehicle has been out-of-service for diagnosis or repair of one or more nonconformities or serious safety defects (whether or not repaired) for a cumulative total of 30 or more calendar days, with at least 15 of those days occurring during the "warranty period."
1. Diagnosis or repair of the same "serious safety defect" has been attempted two or more times, and the defect continues to exist. At least one attempt must occur during the "warranty period" (see What is the Warranty Period?).
* A "serious safety defect" is a life-threatening malfunction that impairs the driver’s ability to control or operate the vehicle, or creates a risk of fire or explosion; OR
2. Diagnosis or repair of the same "nonconformity" has been attempted four or more times, and the defect continues to exist. At least one attempt must occur during the "warranty period" (see What is the Warranty Period? ).
* A "nonconformity" is a defect that "substantially impairs" the use, value or safety of the motor vehicle so as to make the vehicle unreliable, unsafe or diminished in resale value for comparable vehicles; OR
3. A vehicle has been out-of-service for diagnosis or repair of one or more nonconformities or serious safety defects (whether or not repaired) for a cumulative total of 30 or more calendar days, with at least 15 of those days occurring during the "warranty period."
If it were as frequent as 100 miles, I would probably choose a different track, but 1000-1500 miles I can handle dropping in some oil. Well, for another 18 months at least.
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My ML 63 has been doing this since i bought it about 6 months ago. Now I am approaching 10k miles and find myself putting in a quart between 1000-1500 miles.
This also never has occurred to me on any of my other cars, let alone AMGs (although I had 3 engine replacements with an S600... That put me completely out of Mercedes for about 5 years. I'm revisiting and won't go this particular route - see below)
The dealer gave me the same blabber about how this will eventually go away and it related to some seal issues expanding and so on (this is part of why i chose to drive this vehicle in the previous thread).
My car is clearly *burning* oil - the oil on the dipstick actually looks slightly dirty. I have not experienced a compression loss.
In WA state, the lemon law is pretty clear on these types of issues:
While I certainly feel strongly I quality under condition #2, each time it happens I just take it in where it sits for a day adding to condition #3. I figured that I would at least get these to accumulate up since you have a little over two years to take the vehicle in under lemon.
If it were as frequent as 100 miles, I would probably choose a different track, but 1000-1500 miles I can handle dropping in some oil. Well, for another 18 months at least.
This also never has occurred to me on any of my other cars, let alone AMGs (although I had 3 engine replacements with an S600... That put me completely out of Mercedes for about 5 years. I'm revisiting and won't go this particular route - see below)
The dealer gave me the same blabber about how this will eventually go away and it related to some seal issues expanding and so on (this is part of why i chose to drive this vehicle in the previous thread).
My car is clearly *burning* oil - the oil on the dipstick actually looks slightly dirty. I have not experienced a compression loss.
In WA state, the lemon law is pretty clear on these types of issues:
While I certainly feel strongly I quality under condition #2, each time it happens I just take it in where it sits for a day adding to condition #3. I figured that I would at least get these to accumulate up since you have a little over two years to take the vehicle in under lemon.
If it were as frequent as 100 miles, I would probably choose a different track, but 1000-1500 miles I can handle dropping in some oil. Well, for another 18 months at least.
A new motor vehicle is presumed to be a lemon if it has one or more defects that continue to exist after three attempts at repairs, OR after the vehicle has been out of service for a total of 20 cumulative calendar days. The Lemon Law requires that the consumer write to the manufacturer giving notification of one last chance to repair the defect (see page 3 for more information about this process). To qualify under the Lemon Law, the defect must substantially impair the use, value or safety of the vehicle. However, the Lemon Law does not cover defects caused by an accident, vandalism, abuse or neglect. It also does not cover defects caused by attempts to repair or to modify the vehicle by a person other than the manufacturer, its agent or an authorized dealer.
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I called the manufacturer this morning. They were pretty helpful. I told them that the car was in the shop and that the shop foreman was working on it. They said they would have made a call and insisted at this point. So, we'll see what happens. I should know more later today.
Also, I posted in another thread here, that the brake calipers are turning yellow. Ever see that?
Also, I posted in another thread here, that the brake calipers are turning yellow. Ever see that?
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I just got this oil warning level indicator coming up in the last two weeks, car is 6 months old with 4600 miles. Now today I added a quart, and will see what happens with mine. Now my buddy is a tech for dealer for over 15 years, and told me, with AMG's every one he has seen is delivered from factory 1 qt short. So will see what happens. I will keep you guys posted. I would expect these cars to burn some oil, 1 qt per year I think would be reasonable for the first two years. With the revs and being high hp NA engine, it has to burn something.
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Anyone else see this on their ML63? This happened to me three times now. I drive more than 100 miles in a day and the "check oil level warning" comes up on the dash. I took it to the dealer, and their answer was, "with these hand made engines, when you go on long drives, the seals expand and contract, etc." 100 freaking miles? This is my second AMG and I've NEVER heard of that crap before. anyone?
anyone?
