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Old May 13, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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Anyone swapped their MB engines?
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Old May 14, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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I'm not sure what his screen name is, but the guy from MBAutowerks (?) dropped a Kleemann SCed 5.5. liter in to an old C chassis and had it running 11s at the strip. I think he subsequebtly added an NOS system, however, I'm not certain.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Yeah, I have a friend who rode in that car I believe, or one of the MBAutowerk's project cars. Said it's amazing. And you're talking about Donnie, he posts as Benzmac but I haven't seen him around since about February.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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A supra motor in a 210.

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Old May 14, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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A supra motor in a 210.


WOW....I wonder how much a Modded TRD motor would run...??
Would it fit in a W208?
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Old May 14, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
Originally posted by Sleestack
I'm not sure what his screen name is, but the guy from MBAutowerks (?) dropped a Kleemann SCed 5.5. liter in to an old C chassis and had it running 11s at the strip. I think he subsequebtly added an NOS system, however, I'm not certain.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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A 2JZ GTE in a benz???!?!!

That's amazing... how much custom work is needed?

who's car is it?
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Old May 14, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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yea.. it's a 2JZ-GTE in a benz, it's pretty common in many of the asian countries. whatever the cost, i'm sure it's less than $120k
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Old May 15, 2004 | 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by Hank
yea.. it's a 2JZ-GTE in a benz, it's pretty common in many of the asian countries. whatever the cost, i'm sure it's less than $120k
OH SHNAP!

Maybe I'll drop one in my 190E and get more than 700 horsies out of it.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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OH SHNAP!

Maybe I'll drop one in my 190E and get more than 700 horsies out of it.
i'm positive you can, i've got buddies in a shop in Long Beach that can push 2JZs to about 1000hp w/ pump gas.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
supra motor is capable of 1k hp easily.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 12:33 AM
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How long would it take to do?

Less than 2 years?
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Old May 19, 2004 | 12:37 AM
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I guess you can also put in a RB26DETT

anything is possible as long as you have the cash.. hahaha
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Old May 19, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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How long would it take to do?

Less than 2 years?
LOL. yea.. under 2 dog years.
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Old May 25, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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2 dog years? that must not take very long.

then i don't understand why anyone would take more than two years to build a car that might not even live up to its expectations.

everyone must have their reasons and explanations though.

more power to the dog that walks crooked when he can hold the frisbee in his mouth!
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Old May 25, 2004 | 01:11 AM
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
what?
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Old May 25, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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what?
Let me answer that for you. I didn't even realize what was going on in this thread until now. You have a couple of guys making snide indirect comments about my CLK project, instead of just coming out and saying what they really want. The truth is, none of them really know anything about my car or the nature of my relationship with Evosport. Furthermore, they can hate all they want, but the reality is, they don't even have the resources to be able to do a project of the scale of my CLK. They can't imagine why someone would spend so much and be willing to wait so long and work with a growing business rather than giving their money to a company like Brabus or Renntech, however, that is a result of the fact that they aren't in a position to be able to make those kind of choices. Furthermore, as great as the Supra engine is, name one reputable MB tuner who uses that block as a solution for creating high hp MBs.
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Old May 25, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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hey Sleekstack,

so what are you getting done on your car?
and how much did it cost?

I don't have the financial resources to play around with tuning MB.... the money you spend, one could probably get a Ferrari
I have a 240SX swapping in a SR20DET a while back.. that little project took over a year.. normally a month or so, but I let my friend's shop who HAD NEVER done the swap to do..(they mainly do Honda swaps) .. and there were lots of little hurdles like missing parts, rewiring.. some more rewiring.. broken parts.. etc.

but anyway, the point is, to really tune and fully modified a car, you REALLY need to spend time.. and as I learned, its better to go to the reputable guys EVEN if it cost more.. but as aforementioned, I am just a lonely poor Canadian hick who is chopping woods to keep the house warm and cozy


Go Flames !!!
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Old May 25, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Old May 25, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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Toronto... go Flames. I'm not a Flames fan, but I think it is about time for the cup to be back in Canada.

In summary: Engine: 6.3 liter conversion, lowered compression ratio, complete custom manufactured engine components, higher boost Kleemann SC. We have had alot of delay because of the custom spec'ed parts.

Upgraded transmission, custom Brembo BBK, ECU tuning, custom H&R coilovers, chromaly rollcage, custommized Lorinser DTM bodykit (to fit 305s in the rear) and CL hood/grill combo. The seats have been removed and the fronts are being replaced with carbon fiber race seats. Redoing all the trim in CF and some other interior panels are being replaced with CF.

Some guys on this board don't understand why I don't care that it has taken so long, but they really have no clue. It did cost alot, but, I happen to have an idiosyncratic desire to build a crazy W208 CLK. My next desire is to tune a 360 Modena F1. We'll see if that comes to fruition, but there is definitely going to be another tuner project after the CLK.
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How far along are you in this project? Sounds like you're going to be putting out some major hp, whats your projected hp?
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Old May 26, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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How far along are you in this project? Sounds like you're going to be putting out some major hp, whats your projected hp?
Engine assembly and balancing should be done in 3-4 weeks, followed by a few weeks for the suspension, brakes, finishing up the interior and exterior, and engine/ecu tuning. Its been a long time, but things are ready to go.

700 would be nice, but I don't think that will happen on 91 octane. I think somewhere b/t 650-700 is more realistic. I don't want it running with too much boost. I'm definitely looking forward to the engine, but I'm also psyched to see how the chromaly rollcage and coilovers are going to affect the handling. Nothing is going to cure the feel of the steering, but the handling should be vastly improved with the stiifer chassis, tuned suspension and 200-250 lbs saved from losing the seats, hood, stereo, etc.
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Old May 26, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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Sleestack, how much weight are you saving from the hood? Will it be the normal CL hood, or a custom CF hood? I also heard way back that Ben was planned on making a CF trunk, if enough people became interested? I believe that in the end, the money you put in your CLK will be well worth it. 600+hp with less weight = a unique king of all cars
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Old May 26, 2004 | 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by Sleestack
Let me answer that for you. I didn't even realize what was going on in this thread until now. You have a couple of guys making snide indirect comments about my CLK project, instead of just coming out and saying what they really want. The truth is, none of them really know anything about my car or the nature of my relationship with Evosport. Furthermore, they can hate all they want, but the reality is, they don't even have the resources to be able to do a project of the scale of my CLK. They can't imagine why someone would spend so much and be willing to wait so long and work with a growing business rather than giving their money to a company like Brabus or Renntech, however, that is a result of the fact that they aren't in a position to be able to make those kind of choices. Furthermore, as great as the Supra engine is, name one reputable MB tuner who uses that block as a solution for creating high hp MBs.

How many project cars has Evosport worked on? Is yours the first? It's a steep learning curve. That's probably why they ordered wrong pistons and had to order two sets of custom made rods. Not to mention a messed up interior and your lack of brakes....

Then again, I could be blowing stuff out of my butt for fun. It's all speculation until the car finally starts and rolls out of the SHO SHOP.

The dog with the collar is the one who will eat and get chubby!
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Old May 26, 2004 | 01:45 AM
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The hood is the same hood Ben has on his car. It is fiberglass. The Lorinser kit is polyurethane. The hood should probably net about 40 lbs, but I'm not sure. Most of the weigh is coming off the interior. The trunk probably won't be CF. It is also going to have to have a DTM type wing to create downforce, but, I might keep a spare trunk for street use. The car (and most tuner cars) will never be worth it from the perspective of someone who cares about resale value, but, I never thought about this car that way. I just wanted to build a beastly W208 CLK with the guys at Evosport. Its going to be fun going to the track and watching them push the car to its limits...well close at least. tuning is a great indulgence. Even my wife is getting atweaked C32. I'll have to trick out the kid's MB pedal car.

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Sleestack, how much weight are you saving from the hood? Will it be the normal CL hood, or a custom CF hood? I also heard way back that Ben was planned on making a CF trunk, if enough people became interested? I believe that in the end, the money you put in your CLK will be well worth it. 600+hp with less weight = a unique king of all cars
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