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uh I've never heard your definition of "peep" Vadim. I was using it in the sense that just about everyone who uses the word does (signifying people/acquaintances/chums/cronies/homies, etc)
If you know me or ever read my posts, you'd know that I'm not an internet *****-talker and would have no problem saying anything to anyone's face if I had a problem with them. Lets not take this there as I never once said anything towards you that you should regard as offensive. ;0)
If you know me or ever read my posts, you'd know that I'm not an internet *****-talker and would have no problem saying anything to anyone's face if I had a problem with them. Lets not take this there as I never once said anything towards you that you should regard as offensive. ;0)
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Josh K: Sorry dude, but to me it was offensive.
The difference between "peeps" and "people" is one letter. Maybe all of one tenth of an extra second to type it. That makes life a lot easier for all - avoids misunderstandings. BTW "peep" in LA also means someone on PCP, just FYI.
What you thought you meant and what it came out to be turned out to be two totally opposite things.
Anyway, we are still back to square one. Where is that 400 RWHP. I am dying to see it the dyno graph.
The difference between "peeps" and "people" is one letter. Maybe all of one tenth of an extra second to type it. That makes life a lot easier for all - avoids misunderstandings. BTW "peep" in LA also means someone on PCP, just FYI.
What you thought you meant and what it came out to be turned out to be two totally opposite things.
Anyway, we are still back to square one. Where is that 400 RWHP. I am dying to see it the dyno graph.
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Brad,
In response to your aligation of me "pimping" my S/C system.
No where in any of my posts have I mentioned where, when, or how someone can obtain this product. Additionally, I was not the hi-jacker of the thread!!!! As you can plainly see in my post, that you quoted, I was the one informing Vadim that he was
Vadim is the one who keeps insisting on proof, which I posted, after he requested.
As to the " we are not keen to press the issue here", I totally disagree. I knew that this was inevitable. This is not the first time that mods have stretched or flexed thier authority on these forums. It almost makes me think that some "peeps" are being threatened by my knowledge, especially when they don't seem to know what they are talking about. (This of course is my opinion only!)
Lastly, as to the mention that I had anything to do with this so called "thread hi-jacking to promote a product that you are selling is close to the line". You, the mods, may want to take a closer look at who started this and while you are at it, please enlighten me on where and when my posts turned into this so called commercial for the S/C system?
p.s. I thought that this was a forum to share ideas, not to start wars - Some proffesionalism would be appropriate.
In response to your aligation of me "pimping" my S/C system.
No where in any of my posts have I mentioned where, when, or how someone can obtain this product. Additionally, I was not the hi-jacker of the thread!!!! As you can plainly see in my post, that you quoted, I was the one informing Vadim that he was
Vadim is the one who keeps insisting on proof, which I posted, after he requested.As to the " we are not keen to press the issue here", I totally disagree. I knew that this was inevitable. This is not the first time that mods have stretched or flexed thier authority on these forums. It almost makes me think that some "peeps" are being threatened by my knowledge, especially when they don't seem to know what they are talking about. (This of course is my opinion only!)
Lastly, as to the mention that I had anything to do with this so called "thread hi-jacking to promote a product that you are selling is close to the line". You, the mods, may want to take a closer look at who started this and while you are at it, please enlighten me on where and when my posts turned into this so called commercial for the S/C system?
p.s. I thought that this was a forum to share ideas, not to start wars - Some proffesionalism would be appropriate.
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Mr. X: Here is the problem - when you post and claim that you have made 400 rwhp at 8 psi on 91 CA gas on CLK 430 - I get phone calls from customers, asking me if it is true and how come Kleemann and other SC company do not claim the same.
Now, rather than me wasting time and trying to tell each one of them that it is false, I put the burden of proof on you. Since you are the one making the claim, than your are the one who should be responsible for proving it.
So.......... When do you want to come in for dyno?
Like I said before - if it is true - I will be the first one to praise your HoP SC system and recommend it.
Now, rather than me wasting time and trying to tell each one of them that it is false, I put the burden of proof on you. Since you are the one making the claim, than your are the one who should be responsible for proving it.
So.......... When do you want to come in for dyno?
Like I said before - if it is true - I will be the first one to praise your HoP SC system and recommend it.
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Originally Posted by vadim@evosport
Mr. X: Here is the problem - when you post and claim that you have made 400 rwhp at 8 psi on 91 CA gas on CLK 430 - I get phone calls from customers, asking me if it is true and how come Kleemann and other SC company do not claim the same.
I don't understand this, your customer cannot accept the fact there maybe something better / more powerful out there ??
If they want to know, have them call Mr.X, that would get them off your back
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Howard: You missed my point.
I know it is not true.
430 will not make 400 rwhp at 8 psi on 91 CA fuel. Without intercooler a 10:1 CR engine on 91 CA will rattle. With intercooler he will need an extra 5 psi (13 psi total) to reach his goal.
All I am asking for is proof. I even offer the use of my facilities at no charge - if proof can be made.
I know it is not true.
430 will not make 400 rwhp at 8 psi on 91 CA fuel. Without intercooler a 10:1 CR engine on 91 CA will rattle. With intercooler he will need an extra 5 psi (13 psi total) to reach his goal.
All I am asking for is proof. I even offer the use of my facilities at no charge - if proof can be made.
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Vadim, as an individual you are entitled to your opinion. Frankly I'm growing tired of entertaining your questions. You see the 385rwhp number. You and I both know that nobody so far has made that claim on a 430 MBZ. As mentioned before thats just a boost check number. Your wrong about 13+ psi needed to achieve the 400 mark, matter a fact your on the wrong street no offense.
On a side note, I appreciate the offer of using your dyno, but you see its just not the best one for me to use. I need to put a true load on the motor, yours I'm affraid can't do that very well without smoking up the whole shop and contaminating the air before it enters the motor. Fresh air is important, your dyno is located in the back of the shop, where do the exhaust gasses go? They get recirculated in what little clean air there is and reburned. Again thanks but no thanks.
Maybe someone should call Superflow or DTS, heck even call DYNOJET and ask them about the importance of clean uncontaminated air in a dyno facility?
On a side note, I appreciate the offer of using your dyno, but you see its just not the best one for me to use. I need to put a true load on the motor, yours I'm affraid can't do that very well without smoking up the whole shop and contaminating the air before it enters the motor. Fresh air is important, your dyno is located in the back of the shop, where do the exhaust gasses go? They get recirculated in what little clean air there is and reburned. Again thanks but no thanks.
Maybe someone should call Superflow or DTS, heck even call DYNOJET and ask them about the importance of clean uncontaminated air in a dyno facility?
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Josh, you are full of BS. Cut the crap. Your stock CLK430 made 238HP on our DYNOJET.
I have had 700HP Vipers and Supras on the dyno before and NO-ONE complained about bad air.
SO put up or SHUT UP. Do not call me. I am tired of your BS.
Bring the car down or shut up about you making 400 REAR WHEEL HP.
PROVE IT.
I have had 700HP Vipers and Supras on the dyno before and NO-ONE complained about bad air.
SO put up or SHUT UP. Do not call me. I am tired of your BS.
Bring the car down or shut up about you making 400 REAR WHEEL HP.
PROVE IT.
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Um.. I think you all need to calm down a bit. Who really cares about the difference between 385 and 400 horsepower? Mr. X doesnt have to prove anything about his own car. This is getting a bit unprofessional of you, Vadim.
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Originally Posted by MR X
You see the 385rwhp number. You and I both know that nobody so far has made that claim on a 430 MBZ.
Actually, Vadim had my CLK 430 putting out over 390 hp to the rear wheel.
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Hank: Whats up with that pic in your sig? You have 3 people throwin up 3 different sets in the same pic?
Those dudes come straight out of the Sholin Temple!
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Sleestack with all do respect your 430 had 5.5 litre cams from MKB, software, plus gears installed prior to the Kleemann system. Understand, I don't mean any disrespect to you. Your motor was strong, but was not stock. On the other hand, my car is 100%, stock software and no internal mods.
Vadim, I have the number and you know it, but its an "unrealistic" number. It seems to me that you think posting unrealistic numbers is acceptable, but to me it's not. I don't post numbers in bhp, only rwhp. RWHP = real world horsepower, not brake horsepower. I will post the Stg II numbers AFTER the kit is complete. Then you will see a 400+ number yes thats a +. Stop acting like a child on this forum and start acting more like an enthusiast in the quest for more power, remember its how you used to be. Yes, I once looked up to you as a individual with a vast knowledge of info on internal combustion engines but lately all you want to do is bash someones efforts who is in the same quest as you. All your doing is showing the people who visit this forum how you represent a company. "Friendly" competition is nice it makes you strive harder to be better, but retorting to bashing tactics is just plain childish. It's your call on how you want to finish this, you want proof? do you really want me to post? after all it is only a mere 15 horse on a blown motor. Go figure
Vadim, I have the number and you know it, but its an "unrealistic" number. It seems to me that you think posting unrealistic numbers is acceptable, but to me it's not. I don't post numbers in bhp, only rwhp. RWHP = real world horsepower, not brake horsepower. I will post the Stg II numbers AFTER the kit is complete. Then you will see a 400+ number yes thats a +. Stop acting like a child on this forum and start acting more like an enthusiast in the quest for more power, remember its how you used to be. Yes, I once looked up to you as a individual with a vast knowledge of info on internal combustion engines but lately all you want to do is bash someones efforts who is in the same quest as you. All your doing is showing the people who visit this forum how you represent a company. "Friendly" competition is nice it makes you strive harder to be better, but retorting to bashing tactics is just plain childish. It's your call on how you want to finish this, you want proof? do you really want me to post? after all it is only a mere 15 horse on a blown motor. Go figure
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lol... they be waiters at Pho 79. the signs be saying "79 fo' lyfe, du ma!"
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Originally Posted by MR X
Sleestack with all do respect your 430 had 5.5 litre cams from MKB, software, plus gears installed prior to the Kleemann system. Understand, I don't mean any disrespect to you. Your motor was strong, but was not stock. On the other hand, my car is 100%, stock software and no internal mods.
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Originally Posted by Sleestack
I was just responding to yur post that nobody has been able to get 400 RWHP out of the 430.
