Evosport Ignition Set
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Originally Posted by Josh K
That's probably cause nobody ever tried a Vortech before. ;0)
You have to be joking. It would be great if getting reliable 400 rwhp out of an MB that starts with about 275 at the crank was that easy.
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Sleestack,
If I read correctly you have some higher differential gearing that was or is still in your CLK. If you are not running them I would like to talk to you about them and any other HP stuff good for a normally asperated engine.
Jeff
If I read correctly you have some higher differential gearing that was or is still in your CLK. If you are not running them I would like to talk to you about them and any other HP stuff good for a normally asperated engine.
Jeff
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Originally Posted by nov0798
getting an additional 125 hp should not be that hard.
Yeah, but the difference between 400 RWHP and 275 hp at the crank is about 175 hp, an increase of almost 80%.
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Similar stage 1 and stage 2 kits (various boost levels, intercoolers/aftercoolers) have been in use for years on everything from 4 cam Mustangs to pushrod LT1's. The most effective and efficient way to more power is not always the most expensive, longest to complete way. ;0)
And with that...I'm done with this thread.
To bring this BACK ON TOPIC, C klass 320, you won't feel a noticeable difference from ignition wires unless you had a malfunctioning wire, in which case you'd feel the same difference from an OEM replacement. The only place you'll ever see the improvement, if any at all, is on a dyno.
And with that...I'm done with this thread.
To bring this BACK ON TOPIC, C klass 320, you won't feel a noticeable difference from ignition wires unless you had a malfunctioning wire, in which case you'd feel the same difference from an OEM replacement. The only place you'll ever see the improvement, if any at all, is on a dyno.
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Vadim, I have the number and you know it, but its an "unrealistic" number. It seems to me that you think posting unrealistic numbers is acceptable, but to me it's not. I don't post numbers in bhp, only rwhp. RWHP = real world horsepower, not brake horsepower. I will post the Stg II numbers AFTER the kit is complete. Then you will see a 400+ number yes thats a +. Stop acting like a child on this forum and start acting more like an enthusiast in the quest for more power, remember its how you used to be. Yes, I once looked up to you as a individual with a vast knowledge of info on internal combustion engines but lately all you want to do is bash someones efforts who is in the same quest as you. All your doing is showing the people who visit this forum how you represent a company. "Friendly" competition is nice it makes you strive harder to be better, but retorting to bashing tactics is just plain childish. It's your call on how you want to finish this, you want proof? do you really want me to post? after all it is only a mere 15 horse on a blown motor. Go figure 
I know what Vortech can do and I know you can achieve it. So keep pushing it and do not take it as adversirial. When I first started playing with Vortech, almost 10 years ago, I had people who were egging me on, they pushed me further and further.
Just think of me as one of those people.
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Am I the only one who caught the "Real World Horse Power"?
Josh, dude, it's "Rear Wheel Horse Power"
And just one more comment about peeps vs. people and all other sociological terms specific to a demographic. You're not right if you insist the people in your demographic are right.
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Josh, dude, it's "Rear Wheel Horse Power"
And just one more comment about peeps vs. people and all other sociological terms specific to a demographic. You're not right if you insist the people in your demographic are right.
Nice to visit mbworld again
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For the unenlightened, I think Josh was going for the metaphor with "Real World Horsepower," as "rear wheel horsepower" and "real world horsepower" are pretty much one and the same (indicating that the power one's car puts down to the wheels is more of a "real world" horsepower number than a flywheel or brake horsepower number)
Josh - make note. There are some forum members who don't "get" metaphors and/or clever analogies. Make sure to include literal translations in all your posts to avoid future confusion.
Josh - make note. There are some forum members who don't "get" metaphors and/or clever analogies. Make sure to include literal translations in all your posts to avoid future confusion.
Last edited by Josh K; Aug 31, 2004 at 06:29 PM.
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This thread has removed almost all my respect for Evosport. Vadim, you are being very unprofessional, and your constant pimping of your dyno is irritating to anyone who knows anything about dynos.
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One more time let me repost my last post:
It is between Josh and me. None of you know the past history, so none of you understand or see the whole picture. I do not mean to sound rude, but PLEASE leave your comments to yourselves.
Josh, I am not bashing you. I have allways apprecaited your skills and I know you can put them to good use. I think you still do not understand why I am so adamant about your claim. I am trying to push you to get that 400 rwhp, and I want to see it for real on a DYNOJET.
I know what Vortech can do and I know you can achieve it. So keep pushing it and do not take it as adversirial. When I first started playing with Vortech, almost 10 years ago, I had people who were egging me on, they pushed me further and further.
Just think of me as one of those people.
I know what Vortech can do and I know you can achieve it. So keep pushing it and do not take it as adversirial. When I first started playing with Vortech, almost 10 years ago, I had people who were egging me on, they pushed me further and further.
Just think of me as one of those people.
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thanks everyone
thanks everyone for all of your replys however this thread did more bad then good... however i would like to do this..
i really dont care about results on a dyno just improving et's
the only real way of proving this is to actually do a 1/4 mile run without the evo ignition set then with them in the same day with relative same temp and humidity...
do we all agree..
my car is probably the best car to do it with since there will be no driver error or traction problem do to 4 wheel drive... i would launch the car in drive and we will see the difference of the 2 ... problem would need someone to install them at the track in english town...
i really dont care about results on a dyno just improving et's
the only real way of proving this is to actually do a 1/4 mile run without the evo ignition set then with them in the same day with relative same temp and humidity...
do we all agree..
my car is probably the best car to do it with since there will be no driver error or traction problem do to 4 wheel drive... i would launch the car in drive and we will see the difference of the 2 ... problem would need someone to install them at the track in english town...
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If you're going to do any meaningful testing, understand you have to do a minimum of 3 tests with each set-up.
Furthermore, as stated in earlier post, if your current ignition system is operating 100 %, you will not see any improvement with any jazzed-up pieces.
If you're going to do any meaningful testing, understand you have to do a minimum of 3 tests with each set-up.
Furthermore, as stated in earlier post, if your current ignition system is operating 100 %, you will not see any improvement with any jazzed-up pieces.
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Originally Posted by C klass 320
thanks everyone for all of your replys however this thread did more bad then good... however i would like to do this..
i really dont care about results on a dyno just improving et's
the only real way of proving this is to actually do a 1/4 mile run without the evo ignition set then with them in the same day with relative same temp and humidity...
do we all agree..
my car is probably the best car to do it with since there will be no driver error or traction problem do to 4 wheel drive... i would launch the car in drive and we will see the difference of the 2 ... problem would need someone to install them at the track in english town...
i really dont care about results on a dyno just improving et's
the only real way of proving this is to actually do a 1/4 mile run without the evo ignition set then with them in the same day with relative same temp and humidity...
do we all agree..
my car is probably the best car to do it with since there will be no driver error or traction problem do to 4 wheel drive... i would launch the car in drive and we will see the difference of the 2 ... problem would need someone to install them at the track in english town...
Thanks
Brad
