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We get quite a few requests from Australia. We would like to have a distributor there. KLEEMANN USA has North America as its supply area- please contact KLEEMANN Denmark directly to discuss this:
ca@kleemann.dk
We get quite a few requests from Australia. We would like to have a distributor there. KLEEMANN USA has North America as its supply area- please contact KLEEMANN Denmark directly to discuss this:
ca@kleemann.dk
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I wish I had the money to spend on an upgrade like that, I'd love to have a car like that. One more thing, I wish that my wife would let me do an upgrade like that too (even if I had the money, lol)
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According to this article you posted above. The Kleemann E55k has a horsepower rating of 607hp at the crank. My question is, what else other than a supercharger and sports exhaust did you guys put in there to have that much horsepower?? I know that when you add the supercharger alone from a stock 55 engine it'll give you about 550hp but how did that article come up with 607hp??? Can you pls comment on this. And list how that car came up to 607hp.
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Originally posted by JamE55
So you mean that if i get mine installed i just tell the technician to set it at .6bar, .7bar or more??
So you mean that if i get mine installed i just tell the technician to set it at .6bar, .7bar or more??
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Thanks Kleemann.
So what happens if i had mine installed at a higher boost lets say .6bar or .7bar? Does that warranty get voided?? What happens? Just want to get as much HP as i can get.
Thanks again!
So what happens if i had mine installed at a higher boost lets say .6bar or .7bar? Does that warranty get voided?? What happens? Just want to get as much HP as i can get.
Thanks again!
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
No- Our systems are delivered set at .5 bar. The compressor is capable of more than that obviously. We have thousands and thousands of hours durability testing at .5 bar, like wise with higher boost. .5bar provides a huge amount of power at an incredible reliability level.
No- Our systems are delivered set at .5 bar. The compressor is capable of more than that obviously. We have thousands and thousands of hours durability testing at .5 bar, like wise with higher boost. .5bar provides a huge amount of power at an incredible reliability level.
At that pressure what is the difference between putting your supercharger or another brand that puts 6 or 7 PSI?, lets say Eaton or Vortech.
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Originally posted by pocholin
Do you mean it is putting 200 HP extra at .5 bar? (7.25 PSI)
At that pressure what is the difference between putting your supercharger or another brand that puts 6 or 7 PSI?, lets say Eaton or Vortech.
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Not trying to attack Kleeman, I'm just trying to understand the huge difference in price. I might be trying to compare MB cars vs Civic with your supercharger, don't know, that is why I ask.
Do you mean it is putting 200 HP extra at .5 bar? (7.25 PSI)
At that pressure what is the difference between putting your supercharger or another brand that puts 6 or 7 PSI?, lets say Eaton or Vortech.
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Our intercooler is so unique its patented- providing efficiencies above 85%. At 7.3 psi we are delivering air densities that would require upwards of 9.5 psi with a non-intercooled system- without the risk of detonation associated with high discharge temps.
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In a word- air density. ...
In a word- air density. ...
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Thanks for the explanation, I'm understanding more and more about your Kompressor
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According to the article, KLEEMAN claims a 0-100kph at 4.6sec. Is KLEEMAN being modest in their performance times? With 607hp i would expect a time of less than 4. KLEEMAN can you give me any input? thanks.
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Originally posted by Tezta
According to the article, KLEEMAN claims a 0-100kph at 4.6sec. Is KLEEMAN being modest in their performance times? With 607hp i would expect a time of less than 4. KLEEMAN can you give me any input? thanks.
According to the article, KLEEMAN claims a 0-100kph at 4.6sec. Is KLEEMAN being modest in their performance times? With 607hp i would expect a time of less than 4. KLEEMAN can you give me any input? thanks.
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
awiner hit the nail on the head- more power than traction!
awiner hit the nail on the head- more power than traction!
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The question is still isn't answer. And that is, can a Kleemann owner get more Boost from additional "upgrades"
I used to drive a 91 RX-7 Turbo][. To increase boost there were many ways to go. Larger intercooler core, boost controller, better fuel delivery so more air can be compressed in to chamber with larger turbos. etc..etc...
I am not much tuned to SC, however I remember back in the days when the 1986-88 MR2 Supercharged came out, you can add a larger pulley which increased boost. Of course there was also an Intercooler upgrade from HKS, and a whole slew of stuff for the MR2 SC, including a turbo upgrade using twin charging technology.
Okay...in anycase, I wonder if Kleemann will/is offering such type of "upgrade" to get more boost. Or can we use a boost controller to get more PSI?
I also asked this question in another post, and that is does Kleemann install a thicker headgasket to lower compression, to gain higher boost?
I used to drive a 91 RX-7 Turbo][. To increase boost there were many ways to go. Larger intercooler core, boost controller, better fuel delivery so more air can be compressed in to chamber with larger turbos. etc..etc...
I am not much tuned to SC, however I remember back in the days when the 1986-88 MR2 Supercharged came out, you can add a larger pulley which increased boost. Of course there was also an Intercooler upgrade from HKS, and a whole slew of stuff for the MR2 SC, including a turbo upgrade using twin charging technology.
Okay...in anycase, I wonder if Kleemann will/is offering such type of "upgrade" to get more boost. Or can we use a boost controller to get more PSI?
I also asked this question in another post, and that is does Kleemann install a thicker headgasket to lower compression, to gain higher boost?
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A larger pulley was used to increase boost for the record run. A boost controller cannot be used to increase boost on a positive displacement SC.
Thicker headgaskets are the shoddy way to decrease CR- this method ruins the squish area of the piston. If one were to build up a high boost system new pistons would be used.
An AMG N/A engine has 10.5:1 compression, any increase in boost over the provided .5 bar requires engine work to ensure a margin of reliability and safety.
Thicker headgaskets are the shoddy way to decrease CR- this method ruins the squish area of the piston. If one were to build up a high boost system new pistons would be used.
An AMG N/A engine has 10.5:1 compression, any increase in boost over the provided .5 bar requires engine work to ensure a margin of reliability and safety.
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Finally, a reply from the source. That's great. I'm glad that you are not using a thicker gasket to lower compression, but rather sticking to stock height.
So the biggest question is.....will the larger pulley be available to the public, and will kleemann offer low compression pistons?
So the biggest question is.....will the larger pulley be available to the public, and will kleemann offer low compression pistons?
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Originally posted by Turbo][
Finally, a reply from the source. That's great. I'm glad that you are not using a thicker gasket to lower compression, but rather sticking to stock height.
So the biggest question is.....will the larger pulley be available to the public, and will kleemann offer low compression pistons?
Finally, a reply from the source. That's great. I'm glad that you are not using a thicker gasket to lower compression, but rather sticking to stock height.
So the biggest question is.....will the larger pulley be available to the public, and will kleemann offer low compression pistons?
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Actually the thread JamE55 asked the question in was this one. Look up several messages. Kleemann's answer was, "No- Our systems are delivered set at .5 bar. The compressor is capable of more than that obviously. We have thousands and thousands of hours durability testing at .5 bar, like wise with higher boost. .5bar provides a huge amount of power at an incredible reliability level."
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Originally posted by JamE55
Thanks Kleemann.
So what happens if i had mine installed at a higher boost lets say .6bar or .7bar? Does that warranty get voided?? What happens? Just want to get as much HP as i can get.
Thanks again!
Thanks Kleemann.
So what happens if i had mine installed at a higher boost lets say .6bar or .7bar? Does that warranty get voided?? What happens? Just want to get as much HP as i can get.
Thanks again!