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Old 09-30-2005, 10:24 PM
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Traded the R Class for an S430

Well I got a call from my local dealer that he had a nice S430 for me to look at. This morning I decided to go look at it and at the same time look over the many R Class he has in inventory. Well once I sat in the White S with Stone and Burl Walnut interior I knew this was going to be an expensive day. I have always wanted a S Class and never quite got around to doing it. Well my health "funk" went south today and I decided to "do it"

At about 4 o'clock I drove my new S Class home. I still think the R is a great Mercedes and the dealer said they are selling well. But I think now that the S is a better choice for me. Since this is a R forum I will be posting on the W220 forum but here is one shot and the URL for some others on my web site. Thanks for all the kind words and concern and I will be reading this forum closely to see how the R is doing.

http://www.nevadajack.us/gallery/index.php?list=23

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Dude, you are soo funny. Alll that work on the R and it was for an S all along.
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LOL !! Thats funny.. You were so hot on the R. But I for one can relate to what you did. It looks great! I tend to only like the modified S-Class look, But the color/wheel combo looks sporty and classy. a nice mix. I can see why you bought it.. Good Job !! I am sure you will love the smooth ride. Congrats
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LOL I've been following your defense of the R too Good choice on the car though Nevada Jack, did you get a killer price on it?
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LOL I've been following your defense of the R too Good choice on the car though Nevada Jack, did you get a killer price on it?
I don't know if I got a "killer" price but I think a fair deal. The car listed for $81,833 and my price was $74,305...that's $7500 off. I think that equates to about 2K under invoice...I'll have to plug in the specs at Edmunds and see how it comes out. Plus the trade was not inspiring but with the soft E Class market right now, i got $33,705, so not too bad a day on the wallet...:-)
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Originally Posted by Nevada Jack
I don't know if I got a "killer" price but I think a fair deal. The car listed for $81,833 and my price was $74,305...that's $7500 off. I think that equates to about 2K under invoice...I'll have to plug in the specs at Edmunds and see how it comes out. Plus the trade was not inspiring but with the soft E Class market right now, i got $33,705, so not too bad a day on the wallet...:-)

Did you have a W211? I had a W211 I traded in a year ago and only got 40K for it and it was fully loaded....
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Did you have a W211? I had a W211 I traded in a year ago and only got 40K for it and it was fully loaded....
Yup...W211 with very low milage...sport package, wood wheel and CD. So based on the $40K you got loaded...I guess I did okay but we both took a bath with the trade value of the car.

I just checked Edmunds and they are saying Other Are Paying $80K or just a $1000 off MSRP...so that makes me feel good. Last day of the month, last day of the quarter I guess does mean something to buyers.
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Originally Posted by LorinserCClass
Did you have a W211? I had a W211 I traded in a year ago and only got 40K for it and it was fully loaded....
Here is the Edmunds sheet...they are $500 short on the list becauese they do not show the Trunk opener option.


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Here is the Edmunds sheet...they are $500 short on the list becauese they do not show the Trunk opener option.



You should have come down to LA 10-15K off is the weekend special But for your area it looks like you did good. I personally could not believe the hit my W211 took. I figured that the W203 was going to be the one w/the weaker resale value....go figure. Next time I buy a new MB I will make sure I buy it MUCH MUCH less than invoice
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Originally Posted by LorinserCClass
You should have come down to LA 10-15K off is the weekend special But for your area it looks like you did good. I personally could not believe the hit my W211 took. I figured that the W203 was going to be the one w/the weaker resale value....go figure. Next time I buy a new MB I will make sure I buy it MUCH MUCH less than invoice
I bought my 211 in Buena Park and took delivery in Primm. 10-15K would be nice but I just did not want to fool with all the paperwork myself and fight the DMV lines.
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Do you have Xenon's Jack?
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No and it was almost a deal breaker. I had them on the E and they are standard on the S500 but optional on the 430. They should make that standard on all top line MB's or dealers should be required to order them on stock cars (little stretch there.) But I know I will miss them.
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You could always retrofit them in from MBenzNL. I think they run like $1200 or so. Its not too bad since you already have the headlamp washers.
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You could always retrofit them in from MBenzNL. I think they run like $1200 or so. Its not too bad since you already have the headlamp washers.
Good thought...I'll let the dust settle a little and then look into it. I also want to get the wood wheel.
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Your decision proved my point from my post in a different thread. The R-Class is not the appropriate vehicle for anyone who needs to seat less than 5 on a regular basis. There are too many other choices that look better, feel better and, presumably, drive better.

I predict the R will be a tough sell for Mercedes, and this is coming from someone who has been on the wait list for one of these since 2002!

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I don't know if my post proves your point Jack. Seating had no part in my decision to buy the S Class over the R Class.

On your "tough sell" point...my dealer said the traffic for the R has been heavy and they have not even started to advertise it yet. He indicated he thinks it will be a very popular item.
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Seating capacity is foremost in the mind of a potential R-Class purchaser, with storage space coming in a close second. Don't let the Mercedes marketing materials fool you Nevada Jack, the R is aimed squarely at well-heeled minivan purchasers who want an upscale alternative.

About my prediction...only time will tell.
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Seating capacity is foremost in the mind of a potential R-Class purchaser, with storage space coming in a close second. Don't let the Mercedes marketing materials fool you Nevada Jack, the R is aimed squarely at well-heeled minivan purchasers who want an upscale alternative.

About my prediction...only time will tell.
I totally agree with you Jack but in my case, neither entered into the mix. I liked the style and the features and like you followed it since 2002. But for reasons other than that I reconsidered my situation and went in another direction to the S (which I had been following since the 70's...:-)
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I guess u don't like the looks of the New S-class coming out 06. But Yours is a nice choice.

In Hawaii I don't think anyone can get below MSRP....only 1 dealership. Flecture Jones..Mercedes Benz of Honolulu...no other choices. They promote no markup on any models. All MSRP no bargin...the only bargin is if u trade in u can try save yourelf ripping off by bargining.

Or what else should i do with buying new Benz...like the R63? or R500. I don't think they will even give any off when buuying a R63 AMG..

Anyway congrat to Nevada getting the new car and I guess u get out of your personal situation problem u mention before. Enjoy the ride.

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I guess u don't like the looks of the New S-class coming out 06. But Yours is a nice choice.

In Hawaii I don't think anyone can get below MSRP....only 1 dealership. Flecture Jones..Mercedes Benz of Honolulu...no other choices. They promote no markup on any models. All MSRP no bargin...the only bargin is if u trade in u can try save yourelf ripping off by bargining.

Or what else should i do with buying new Benz...like the R63? or R500. I don't think they will even give any off when buuying a R63 AMG..

Anyway congrat to Nevada getting the new car and I guess u get out of your personal situation problem u mention before. Enjoy the ride.
I like the new 07 S but I seem to like the W220 more. The major point is the fact that I got a good deal on the 2006 and like you, Fletcher Jones LV will be selling the new S and the new R at list. The R63 AMG (and many other AMG models) never go for less than list when very new.

For the first time in 11 years I bought a car at FJ...that is because they finally bargained with me and gave me a price I could swallow. You are in a tougher position based on the fact you live in Hawaii...at least we can go to LA or some other city.
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It's great to see that you've come to your senses Jack... In my opinion the S-class is infinitely more desirable and makes you wonder who the R-class was built for. The S-class can do all the same with more style, comfort, and prestige. The scary thought is that a loaded R500 isn't much cheaper than what you paid for the S...... You made a great choice and will be thanking your lucky stars you didn't buy an R-class.. Still doing the cross country road trip?
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It's great to see that you've come to your senses Jack... In my opinion the S-class is infinitely more desirable and makes you wonder who the R-class was built for. The S-class can do all the same with more style, comfort, and prestige. The scary thought is that a loaded R500 isn't much cheaper than what you paid for the S...... You made a great choice and will be thanking your lucky stars you didn't buy an R-class.. Still doing the cross country road trip?
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Hi Eric...I guess I ended up spending about $8K more for the S430 over the loaded R500. After driving the R and looking at about 5 of them I would still be happy had I gotten the R...but in reality I did not need many of those features. The S is everything they say it is...great ride, handles beautifully and has room to spare.

The trip has been delayed...maybe to early spring...but will be made...:-)
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I have followed all your posts and thoughts regarding the R that have been in this forum. Its been a great source of information as your passion for it really helped educate me (and no doubt many others) about the R.

So, thanks for all the information, and congratulations on a sensational new car, and by all reports, a good deal too!

Cheers,

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