R is the b a s t a r d son of new ML and Chrysler Pacifica
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R is the b a s t a r d son of new ML and Chrysler Pacifica
Born b a s t a r d then given a daily beating with the Ugly Stick.
At least that's what I thought when I first saw one in person tonight as a promo at a Rolling Stones concert.
At least that's what I thought when I first saw one in person tonight as a promo at a Rolling Stones concert.
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Originally Posted by cdiken
Born ******* then given a daily beating with the Ugly Stick.
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I know that R has NO common parts with Pacifica.
IF common parts were used, then it would be the INBRED, b a s t a r d son.
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Originally Posted by PHYBENZ
It's actually AWD. And no chrysler parts are shared with ANY MB. Chrysler uses some MB parts but not the other way around. So tired of this PAcifica, and chrysler parts talk.
The R does not have anything in common with the Pacifica or ML.
1. Pacifica has its own chasis
2. R has its own chasis to be shared with the new G
3. ML has its own chasis
4. Engines are shared between ML and R along with transmissions and drivetrain.
5. Pacifica has its own engines and drivetrain.
The only Chryslers to use old MB parts are:
1. Dodge Magnum, Chrysler 300 (W210 chasis).
2. The 300C and Magnum Hemi have the same 5spd from the W210.
3. Crossfire runs on the old SLK chasis, not the new.
So we have come to the conclusion that Mercedes is NOT using Chrylser parts.
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I knew it all along, and I've been saying it all along... just making the point that the R looks like a Pacifica.. that's all.
Anyway.. is it AWD (front bias) or AWD 50/50?
Anyway.. is it AWD (front bias) or AWD 50/50?
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I was just looking at the R yesterday as a possible replacement for the Volvo XC in 2 years when my lease ends on it. Even though the dealer insists its not related, and even though it's RWD and not FWD... It's way to similar to the Pacifica.. If MB is indeed borrowing parts from Chrysler.. the Alabama MB's are going to be strong candidates for this horrid practice.
It is 50/50 AWD BTW.
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Originally Posted by Nevada Jack
Easy CE750, you will lose your credibility if you post many like that.
It is 50/50 AWD BTW.
It is 50/50 AWD BTW.
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Actually you are all wrong...the R-Class is the retard version of the Toyota Matrix. i have no idea why Mercedes came up with a sport p o o p like the R-class....
http://toyota.com/matrix/index.html?...N_MATRIX_INDEX
http://toyota.com/matrix/index.html?...N_MATRIX_INDEX
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Originally Posted by CE750
I recall you said the quality wasn't impressing you much... what did you think about the door panels? I looked at a $67,000 sticker R, and I don't know if it's just that the other crap like the Ford/Lincoln SUV's are getting a lot better, or what, but it didn't feel very MB like, felt like a Ford door.. I think (IMHO) you did much (MUCH) better with the S.
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Originally Posted by CE750
ok.
I see you have a .mac
Good choice.. Mac is always a mark of quality, and that's never debatable
I see you have a .mac
Good choice.. Mac is always a mark of quality, and that's never debatable
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cheers to all the .mac people!
by the way I also don't see any similarity between the looks of the pacifica and R other than the fact that its the same type of vehicle.
I have felt the quality in the R and think it's pretty good, the actually only thing I find a little cheap on the ML and a little more so on the R is the silver trim that is just plastic painted silver....
Other than that seems to be a pretty solid car.
by the way I also don't see any similarity between the looks of the pacifica and R other than the fact that its the same type of vehicle.
I have felt the quality in the R and think it's pretty good, the actually only thing I find a little cheap on the ML and a little more so on the R is the silver trim that is just plastic painted silver....
Other than that seems to be a pretty solid car.
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Originally Posted by PHYBENZ
cheers to all the .mac people!
by the way I also don't see any similarity between the looks of the pacifica and R other than the fact that its the same type of vehicle.
I have felt the quality in the R and think it's pretty good, the actually only thing I find a little cheap on the ML and a little more so on the R is the silver trim that is just plastic painted silver....
Other than that seems to be a pretty solid car.
by the way I also don't see any similarity between the looks of the pacifica and R other than the fact that its the same type of vehicle.
I have felt the quality in the R and think it's pretty good, the actually only thing I find a little cheap on the ML and a little more so on the R is the silver trim that is just plastic painted silver....
Other than that seems to be a pretty solid car.
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How many "quality" or "exclusive" automakers have not built crossovers/ SUV's?
Lets see, hmmm, Porsche sold out with the Cayoureg, BMW X5, Benz ML and now R class.
What's next, the Bentley SUV? The Bentley Continenal X? AWD grocery getter?
How about the Ferrarri No-testosteronousa?
The Lamborghini Hybrid Murcielago Xuv?
The Rolls Royce Green Phantom Hybrid LX
What's next, the Bentley SUV? The Bentley Continenal X? AWD grocery getter?
How about the Ferrarri No-testosteronousa?
The Lamborghini Hybrid Murcielago Xuv?
The Rolls Royce Green Phantom Hybrid LX
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Originally Posted by cdiken
What's next, the Bentley SUV? The Bentley Continenal X? AWD grocery getter?
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Bentley, which I maintain is really no longer in business as the world knew it for decades, is now a higher end division of VW/Audi, as such the new Bentley SUV is going to be a direct knock off of the Audi SUV that has been announced, but with finer interior materials, and a bit more HP I'm sure.
Lexus needs some competition in the ultra luxury capable SUV market with the G not selling so hotly.
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Which is why I said I'm down with the Bentley SUV.
Lexus needs some competition in the ultra luxury capable SUV market with the G not selling so hotly.
Lexus needs some competition in the ultra luxury capable SUV market with the G not selling so hotly.
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If I need an "SUV" thats both ultra lux, and actually capable of going off road, I'll get a pre-BMW Ranger Rover.. Not reliable, but far more capable off road than anything I know off, except maybe the H1.
My mistake.