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Old 09-05-2017, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jbattan
There are two new press releases for the facelifts. One is here:
http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSi...l?oid=29100110
\\Great find w/ excellent pics. Is the coupe shown a 560 or 63? Looks like a 560 w/ the new 10 spokes but has quad pipes.

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When I saw this pic, you came to mind (pic from the Daimler press release above).

On a side note, after reading the press release, the C-Deac does appear kind of complex. Have these 4.0's been out in Europe yet, or does MB have any cars with c-deac already out?
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Originally Posted by RJC
When I saw this pic, you came to mind (pic from the Daimler press release above).

On a side note, after reading the press release, the C-Deac does appear kind of complex. Have these 4.0's been out in Europe yet, or does MB have any cars with c-deac already out?
yes. E63
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yes. E63
Thanks...but does the amg version have C-deac?

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Thanks...but does the amg version have C-deac?
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Yes.
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Any issues? Is there a way to deac the deac?
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It's not active in any of the sport or higher engine modes. Only in comfort.
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It's not active in any of the sport or higher engine modes. Only in comfort.
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Originally Posted by jbattan
There are two new press releases for the facelifts. One is here:
http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSi...l?oid=29100110
Thanks for posting. Very interesting info.
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Yes.
Cylinder deactivation with glide mode is only available on the Coupe, not the Cabriolet, perhaps due to NVH issues.
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Cylinder deactivation with glide mode is only available on the Coupe, not the Cabriolet, perhaps due to NVH issues.
Very possible. It does create a specific resonance that has to be accounted for. Some manufacturers use magnetic fluid filled motor mounts to stiffen/soften them as needed for the cyl deactivation modes, to prevent you from feeling the engine running on an unbalanced firing order. The Cab may have a body harmonic that they can't fix.

Glide mode is present on all of them and has been for some time, that's a function of the transmission/engine computers, nothing to do specifically with the cylinder deactivation. Deactivation happens when the engine is still moving the vehicle, usually under complete coasting when you would be in glide mode, the injectors shut down so running 4/8 cylinders makes no difference. Some manufactures call it DFCO, Deceleration fuel cut off, I don't know if Benz has a specific name for it but it's there.
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Very possible. It does create a specific resonance that has to be accounted for. Some manufacturers use magnetic fluid filled motor mounts to stiffen/soften them as needed for the cyl deactivation modes, to prevent you from feeling the engine running on an unbalanced firing order. The Cab may have a body harmonic that they can't fix.

Glide mode is present on all of them and has been for some time, that's a function of the transmission/engine computers, nothing to do specifically with the cylinder deactivation. Deactivation happens when the engine is still moving the vehicle, usually under complete coasting when you would be in glide mode, the injectors shut down so running 4/8 cylinders makes no difference. Some manufactures call it DFCO, Deceleration fuel cut off, I don't know if Benz has a specific name for it but it's there.
MB USA just clarified that their press material had a mistake. Both cars have cylinder deactivation.

And thank you for the info on the glide mode.
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Originally Posted by jbattan
MB USA just clarified that their press material had a mistake. Both cars have cylinder deactivation.

And thank you for the info on the glide mode.

Thanks for passing that along.

Anyone hazard a guess on when one could order these cars?
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Anyone hazard a guess on when one could order these cars?
MBUSA told me yesterday that the order books will open by EOY.

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