S320 performance modifications
06-19-2003, 01:49 PM
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S320 performance modifications
hey guys, I'm new to the MB world and I came across a few mods and I was wondering what yall though.
Chip -- speedtuningusa.com has chips for my car for only $250 which is very reasonable in my opinion. 21HP and 25Nm torque is what they claim. Jet Chip charges $400 and they claim about 16-18 wheel HP with 10% increase in torque. Which do you think is the best of the two? have any of you chipped your W140, if so what were the results.
Intake -- I plan to make my own custom intake b/c it will save a ton of money and plus its pretty easy to make a heatsheild. How much should intake help on a 1993 S320?
Exhaust -- Is this even a worth while mod on W140's (especially a 6 cylinder)? What about straight pipes?
How is the OBD1 vs OBD2 modding on benzes? do pre 1996 cars get alot more HP per mod than 1996+ cars?
Also Some chips offer a raised rev limiter, what is a safe amount to increase the rev limiter by on the S320 motors? 200rpm? 400rpm? anyways guys, thanks for your help guys
Chip -- speedtuningusa.com has chips for my car for only $250 which is very reasonable in my opinion. 21HP and 25Nm torque is what they claim. Jet Chip charges $400 and they claim about 16-18 wheel HP with 10% increase in torque. Which do you think is the best of the two? have any of you chipped your W140, if so what were the results.
Intake -- I plan to make my own custom intake b/c it will save a ton of money and plus its pretty easy to make a heatsheild. How much should intake help on a 1993 S320?
Exhaust -- Is this even a worth while mod on W140's (especially a 6 cylinder)? What about straight pipes?
How is the OBD1 vs OBD2 modding on benzes? do pre 1996 cars get alot more HP per mod than 1996+ cars?
Also Some chips offer a raised rev limiter, what is a safe amount to increase the rev limiter by on the S320 motors? 200rpm? 400rpm? anyways guys, thanks for your help guys
06-22-2003, 12:11 PM
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Just sell it and get the 8 or 12 cylider
I have tried all the tricks, but trying to make a car something it's not always leads to trouble. Let's face it the 300 series are all show and no go. (I don't agree with it) but you can always re-badge and then it will feel a lot more powerful...LOL
06-22-2003, 01:44 PM
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Re: Just sell it and get the 8 or 12 cylider
Originally posted by shmelvin
I have tried all the tricks, but trying to make a car something it's not always leads to trouble. Let's face it the 300 series are all show and no go. (I don't agree with it) but you can always re-badge and then it will feel a lot more powerful...LOL
I have tried all the tricks, but trying to make a car something it's not always leads to trouble. Let's face it the 300 series are all show and no go. (I don't agree with it) but you can always re-badge and then it will feel a lot more powerful...LOL
I think my car runs, and runs quite fast. Its not a V8 or 12, but its enough to move a car of this size very efficiently. Thats engineering.
06-22-2003, 01:56 PM
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You are correct
///320 You are correct, but omey doesn't want efficiency...he wants power and he will have to strain that engine to match the 8 or 12. Your 6 is an excellent engine and manages to push these barges around quite well. On the other hand I was cruising at 140mph down I-79 yesterday at just over 3000 revs, that aint going to happen with a 6.
06-22-2003, 08:28 PM
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Re: You are correct
Originally posted by shmelvin
///320 You are correct, but omey doesn't want efficiency...he wants power and he will have to strain that engine to match the 8 or 12. Your 6 is an excellent engine and manages to push these barges around quite well. On the other hand I was cruising at 140mph down I-79 yesterday at just over 3000 revs, that aint going to happen with a 6.
///320 You are correct, but omey doesn't want efficiency...he wants power and he will have to strain that engine to match the 8 or 12. Your 6 is an excellent engine and manages to push these barges around quite well. On the other hand I was cruising at 140mph down I-79 yesterday at just over 3000 revs, that aint going to happen with a 6.
well i technically have a 300SE which has the 3.59 differential is just as fast as the 400SE was, so its not slow. Car feels very peppy for a inline 6 pushing 4200-4400 lbs (whatever the actual weight is of inline 6 SWB W140 ). I think chip and intake will suffice, I don't want drag car performance I just want something livably fast b/c I'm coming from a BMW M3 so i need something that will at least partially crave my thirst for speed .... somewhat. Anyways any help would be appreciated. thanks guys
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hey there I'm looking for an S320 air intake as well what have you found? Cause since my air filter housing is broken a new one is like 300.00$US I would rather spent it on an Cold air intake.
07-03-2003, 04:50 PM
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hey there I'm looking for an S320 air intake as well what have you found? Cause since my air filter housing is broken a new one is like 300.00$US I would rather spent it on an Cold air intake.
hey there I'm looking for an S320 air intake as well what have you found? Cause since my air filter housing is broken a new one is like 300.00$US I would rather spent it on an Cold air intake.
ya just go the custom route, make one yourself, its alot easier and you will get more HP than any company could make, just get the right diameter K&N cone filter with the necessary tubing and a heat sheild and bingo, its that simple.
07-03-2003, 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by OmeyHomey
ya just go the custom route, make one yourself, its alot easier and you will get more HP than any company could make, just get the right diameter K&N cone filter with the necessary tubing and a heat sheild and bingo, its that simple.
ya just go the custom route, make one yourself, its alot easier and you will get more HP than any company could make, just get the right diameter K&N cone filter with the necessary tubing and a heat sheild and bingo, its that simple.
Did you do it already I would like it if possible to send me some pics of your setup did you have any problems with the sensors?
07-03-2003, 09:23 PM
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I did not do it yet but I can explain how to do it, its very easy on the car especially since the engine bay is so open (engine bay is designed for v12 to fit so I6 leaves plenty of room). Get K&N filter (check opening diameter of the HFM, its either 3.0 inch or 3.5 inch) for the right opening. next get some aluminum sheet metal (like $5 for 3 square feet) from either Lowes or HomeDepot. bend it how you like, cut hole (3 inches diameter or 3.5 inch according to the right size needed), then spray paint it black and put felt (cotton fuzzy cloth) on the engine side to act as an insulator. Bingo Cold air intake, companies do this for BMWS and charge $150-350 for something so simple. I was going to do it but now it seems like I may be getting a porsche instead
07-03-2003, 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by OmeyHomey
I did not do it yet but I can explain how to do it, its very easy on the car especially since the engine bay is so open (engine bay is designed for v12 to fit so I6 leaves plenty of room). Get K&N filter (check opening diameter of the HFM, its either 3.0 inch or 3.5 inch) for the right opening. next get some aluminum sheet metal (like $5 for 3 square feet) from either Lowes or HomeDepot. bend it how you like, cut hole (3 inches diameter or 3.5 inch according to the right size needed), then spray paint it black and put felt (cotton fuzzy cloth) on the engine side to act as an insulator. Bingo Cold air intake, companies do this for BMWS and charge $150-350 for something so simple. I was going to do it but now it seems like I may be getting a porsche instead
I did not do it yet but I can explain how to do it, its very easy on the car especially since the engine bay is so open (engine bay is designed for v12 to fit so I6 leaves plenty of room). Get K&N filter (check opening diameter of the HFM, its either 3.0 inch or 3.5 inch) for the right opening. next get some aluminum sheet metal (like $5 for 3 square feet) from either Lowes or HomeDepot. bend it how you like, cut hole (3 inches diameter or 3.5 inch according to the right size needed), then spray paint it black and put felt (cotton fuzzy cloth) on the engine side to act as an insulator. Bingo Cold air intake, companies do this for BMWS and charge $150-350 for something so simple. I was going to do it but now it seems like I may be getting a porsche instead
08-03-2003, 04:22 AM
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just to keep yall updated I will be developing a cold air ram air intake kit for my 300SE. it should work with most 6cyl benz motors, it will be carbon fiber (most probably fake) and i should be able to make the kits for $50-100, MUCH better than the unbelievably bogus prices people have listed.
does anyone have the transmission gearing information for the 4speed and 5 speed, along with the differential gearing for 300SE and S320 respectively? I REALLY need to know this.
I will keep yall updated on the intake
does anyone have the transmission gearing information for the 4speed and 5 speed, along with the differential gearing for 300SE and S320 respectively? I REALLY need to know this.
I will keep yall updated on the intake
