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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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Unhappy Power assisted trunk latch / door failure

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Have got a 95' S500 Coupe. Apparently the pneumatic, power assist in both the doors and trunk failed. Trunk lid locks but does not close flush with the cars body. I do however have air pressure to inflate the lumbar support in the seats however.
A fuse maybe? Any ideas?
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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I would start with checking the fuses.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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Just finished checking all fuses... all OK.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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Well, then the next thing to look into would be the relays, I guess.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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sounds like a problem with your door closing vacuum pump
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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But does this pump also supply air to the trunk latch as well?
Any idea what past of the car it is located in?
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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yes, it supplies vacuum to trunk also. In most cars it is located
in the trunk [left side] behind the liner. Is wrapped in foam
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Thank for your valuable input!
I wonder if one of the airlines could have become detached causing a loss of pressure in the system. I will have to play with this over the weekend.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 10:57 PM
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You can try this trick:

Inside the trunk on the right hand side. There is a fuse box. Remove fuse #3,6,9,11. Then wait for 30 seconds. Then put them back on.

Please tell me if it works. I have tried several times and it worked.

Good luck
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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yyou can try pulling the fuses but in most cases you will eventually
have to replace the pump as pulling the fuse merely resets
the pump but the deeper problem keeps reappearing
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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I will try the fuse pulling routine. THis seems to jive with what I read elsewhere about a Electrolytic Capactor failing inside the pump. When the fuses are pulled, the capacitor will discharge, which might bring the pump back to life, if ever so briefly.
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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Eureka! Thanks RD Sport. Pulled the fuses and all is working once again.

Does the fact that this worked mean that the vacuum pump is
bad? Maybe the capacitor inside?
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by RD Sport
You can try this trick:

Inside the trunk on the right hand side. There is a fuse box. Remove fuse #3,6,9,11. Then wait for 30 seconds. Then put them back on.

Please tell me if it works. I have tried several times and it worked.

Good luck
why all that? i just take out #9 and that will do the trick... 3,6 and 11 are for other stuff like interior lighting and stuff...
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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Hmmmm.
I hope I won't have to do this every week. But if I do, pulling 1 fuse is better than 4 !
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I just am wondering what the root cause of the problem is.
Electrolytic capacitor are known to go bad over time.... I wonder if that is the real culprit here.
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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Did people slam the door and trunk shut all the time before?
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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Hmmmmm
I am forceful.....on the doors. I would not call it slamming.

Before this happened, the trunk lid was not catching all the time and I would have to use alot more force than I normally use to engage the latch. I attributed it to a minor mechanical missalignment on the latch. In the past, it took almost no pressure at to close the trunk. My wife is gulity of always slamming the trunk and I told her not too... BUT now even I have to!

Now that the power assist is working again I still have to forcefully close the trunk a FEW TIMES before the latch engages.

Think its time to get a 1999 CL500
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 10:39 PM
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Well...............after pulling the fuse, the problem dissappeared for 8 hours.... and now its back again. hmmmmmmmmm

I guess I can:
1) Get a new pump
2) put a relay / timer in line with the #9 fuse
3) disect my pump
4) ?????

Is there a 4th option ??
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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Take it to a honest shop and let them do the tests. A non dealer shop could order a rebuilt or used part to save some bucks. Mine always ordered parts those are either the same year or later.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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I was curious where would be a good place to get one of these replacement pumps? The one in our 92 500SEL has already been diagnosed as bad.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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contact George Murphy email address george_murphy@
compuserve.com I believe his firm can rebuild your unit.
He is very reputable. He is also technical director of the
Star magazine. My instrument cluster and central locking
pump is at his facility right now, being rebuilt.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 07:19 PM
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Thank you, I will email him soon. Also is there anything special that needs to be taken into account when replacing one of these or is it rather straight forward?
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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Thanks..

He will see mine too.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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I went to pull the Vaccuum pump but it was no where to be found. I pulled out liner in rear left trunk ( where CD changer is )
and it is not there. ANy ideas where this thing is located?
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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If anyone could enlighten me as well on the location for our car, I would appreciated it. Plan to try and pull it this weekend so we can send it off for a rebuild.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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My understanding is that it is in that location [left side in trunk]
but I have heard it is behind an amplifier. Should be plenty of
info on that if you run a search.
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