bmms8

ouch, he is right in some areas, mb did copy a lot of lexus...this is the first year, that the headlamp design is clear, and has projection lights...even kias and hyanduis have those...old gs's had those, very old es's had those also, even the old supras have them...i like mb much more than lexus, but mbs arent perfect at all

Accord

Do you have a problem with my age? So I guess you're saying that MBWorld.org should discriminate against age and completely forget about the fact that I far exceed all critera needed to be a moderator.

I have been a moderator here since these forums opened, and I do a fantastic job as a moderator and everyone on MBWorld will vouch for this.

If you're going to insult me, atleast make sure you have a just claim.

1SICKLEX

Yeah it does, the TT V-12s are coming ala Maybach to the S/CL 55.

In my only race with a 540 i 6 speed I beat him cause he SERIOUSLY missed a shift. Dude could not drive. I know, I also have a ES 300 MANUAL (I know, a manual Lexus ). But the 2 times I raced a 540 on the freeway from speeds of 80mph to 120mph plus, for all intents and purposes the cars were EQUAL. He could not pull away, I could not pull away. The only time when someone got ahead was a better manuver in traffic. (I love the 5 series).

THough with the M cars, AMG cars and the RS cars from Audi (that RS-6 for 85k is AMAZING), I do wish now that LEXUS would make a HIGH PERFORMANCE factory model. L-tuned is nothing compared to those.

Accord

The Twin-Turbo V12 engines are only in the S600 and CL600, the S55 and CL55 AMG's have a V8 Kompressor engine.

opti6600

Hmm...allow me to provide some insight as to the quality of Lexus. Somebody mentioned the use of interior materials...what is it exactly that I see in the middle of the dashboard? Not only does Lexus have tons of plastic, but it's ugly plastic.

And here's a bit of humor. My friend and I were walking along, outside this little mall in Miami. We come across an LS430...I don't say anything...then we go around the back, we check the back as usual (it's been engrained in us by Mercedes, hehe), and we see a Gators license plate.

Even though I'm a complete computer geek without any interest in sports, I still have this beef with the Gators because of my friends. So we both look at each other, and just burst out laughing. First it was somebody with an LS430...if you're going to spend that much, get a Q45. Still as much plastic, but it's a ~350 hp engine, and much higher quality. Secondly, its some loser who actually had the urge to stick a license plate border on it...and a sport team of all things. Can't we get somebody with a Cognito Ergo Sum border? Hmm? Would it be too hard to see an S600 with a Darwin fish on the back (hah, that'd be a sight)...

Ending the rant,
Jordan

1SICKLEX

Wow another supremist. The new S-class has be loathed by Benz loyalists for it's INTERIOR cheapness as well as every major magazine pointing out obvious cost cutting. Yet the LS and Q have a lot of plastic. There is no way u sat in either vehicle as IMO, the S-class, LS and Q all have very high quality interiors.

ending that nonsense u wrote,

1 SICK LEX

Accord

The interior of the S430 and S500 is nothing spectacular, it's just mediocre. However, the interior of the S600 is absolutely stunning with the numerous extra amenities.

bmms8

but again, you have to pay 120 grand for just "nice interior".....come on now

Accord

...So?

bmms8

what do you mean so.......if lexus made a 120 grand car, you wouldnt argur about nothing, go buy a s430, and a ls430, come on, i know your dad would let you have that for your birthday, and compare those two ,not your s600......whatever dude, i dont care what you say, im done arguing with you, it doesnt go thru

Accord

I would rather have an S600 over a boring LS430.

Thanks.

vraa

look, if lexus came out with a high preformance car, with a big ol' engine and bumped up the quality on the interior.. and said.. hey punk.. u pay 120k for this or u don't get it.. then i think they can play around with the s600.. but right now.. its not even comparable..

the s600 comes with almost everything stock! It has a friggin V12!

The interior is like.. DELUXE premium brand. sure the s430 was a sad car, but thats not the flagship..

mrgolf25: how is the benz all.. umm. chryslery? that was a weird word! lol

I don't belive that mercedes is making large changes with Chrylser just yet in their flagship seden..

vraa

also just because accord is 19 doesn't mean that he can't moderate.... please excuse my bluntness but yall 40+ year old guys have had yalls chance to screw up the world. now its our turn

that was a joke yall.. !! :P :P

bmms8

im 15..

bmms8

in fact....im older than you, but still doesnt mean **** about knowing cars..

vraa

see.. even he agrees! lol

doesn't matter if ur 80 or 12 .. if u have an interest in benz's u belong here! lol

Toog4me

the fact is even the s430 has more standard innovation built in to it than an ls430 with every option.


WRONG... YOU DO NOT KNOW YOUR STUFF AS LEX400SC SAID...


ABSENT
say what you want.lexus is booooring car appliance for people looking for quiet ,dependable transportation special.
it's like buying a maytag washer.this glamour toyota is no fun car and never will be .
i wouldn't be caught dead in a lexus,it's image is a little above a goddamn minivan.


YOUR HANDLE... YOU LEFT OUT THE minded PART. ITS NICE YOU COMPARED IT TO A MAYTAG THOUGH. THEY ARE THE WORLDS NUMBER ONE SELLING WASHER AND DRYER. NOT TO MENTION, FOUND IN MILLIONS OF HOUSEHOLDS.

Hmm...allow me to provide some insight as to the quality of Lexus. Somebody mentioned the use of interior materials...what is it exactly that I see in the middle of the dashboard? Not only does Lexus have tons of plastic, but it's ugly plastic.

And here's a bit of humor. My friend and I were walking along, outside this little mall in Miami. We come across an LS430...I don't say anything...then we go around the back, we check the back as usual (it's been engrained in us by Mercedes, hehe), and we see a Gators license plate.

Even though I'm a complete computer geek without any interest in sports, I still have this beef with the Gators because of my friends. So we both look at each other, and just burst out laughing. First it was somebody with an LS430...if you're going to spend that much, get a Q45. Still as much plastic, but it's a ~350 hp engine, and much higher quality. Secondly, its some loser who actually had the urge to stick a license plate border on it...and a sport team of all things. Can't we get somebody with a Cognito Ergo Sum border? Hmm? Would it be too hard to see an S600 with a Darwin fish on the back (hah, that'd be a sight)...

Ending the rant,
Jordan

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TELL YOU OF THE MBS IVE SEEN WITH 21 BUTT FUGLY RIMS AND CHEAP AS SIDE KITS AND EXHAUSTS? oR THE TIME I SAW AN MB ON THE SIDE OF THE FREEWAY WITH THE HOOD OPEN? OR THE TIME I SAW A PINK CLK WITH A 80 YEAR OLD LADY DRIVING IT? OR THE TIME I SAW A CLK320 WITH THE 55 BADGES ON IT?

JFawwaz

care to tell us about your lexus sightings too?

Toog4me

Ive seen ugly lexuss too.. but the point is you cant judge the car or manufacture because of a buyer.

BTW, ive seen far more ugly MBs than Lexuss because the people are like Accord.. they buy the brand because they think it is ontop of the world and put it on, even if its ugly.

KrispyK

Perhaps age is a non-issue, but the possession of a driver's license is definitely an issue ... didn't know those who couldn't drive had such strong opinions about cars!

JFawwaz

get with the times bro! my nephew is only 13 and is so excited that im getting the CL600 with the 500hp twin turbo v12

toog.. i was just messin with you

KrispyK

*drool* He's not the only one excited about it, that's for sure!

JFawwaz

LOL.. ill keep you guys updated

lex400sc

All I have to say thusfar is that opti6600 and absent are the biggest idiots on this board. Not only did they not provide any meaningful input that was worth even a prison inmate's time, but they only serve to bring down the image of Mercedes' enthusiests by showing the extent of their self-control and knowledge.

On a side note, I can't believe how many young'ns there are on this board! I always assumed this place had a majority of older yuppy folks. It appears to me as if us Lexus trolls have seniority around here, but I suppose that is expected since we are all old geezers driving glamour appliances .

lex400sc

Here's a little story that I think at least Accord might like. Today I was at the grocery store picking up some ice cream to combat the heat, and on my way out some lady asked me if I could jump her car. I pull over to her and low and behold, a BMW 535! Well the jump didn't work and I was getting edgy because of the heat, so she just called a tow and I left to go enjoy my hard earned ice cream!