S-Class (W220) 1999-2006: S 320 CDI, S 320, S430, S 500, S 600

What oil brand and weight to use on 2k_s430 w/97k?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 01-02-2007, 12:23 AM
  #1  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
rah2ks430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Unhappy What oil brand and weight to use on 2k_s430 w/97k?

I just bought a 2000 s430 with 97k...want to change the oil and don't know what brand and weight to use. I have heard many different answers from mechanics and service advisors at the dealership...i thought it was 5w30 but am told to use 15w40?
Old 01-02-2007, 02:41 AM
  #2  
Super Member
 
sklasse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
how much did you buy it for ? just curious bc I am also in the market for a w220
Old 01-02-2007, 10:25 AM
  #3  
Out Of Control!!
 
AsianML's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 18,414
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
2007 E63
It used to be Mobil1 0W-40 that the dealers often used and recommended, but now I heard they've switched to either 5W-something. Not sure.

However you can still use 0W-40 with no problems.
Old 01-02-2007, 10:27 AM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
newton22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 4,574
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
BMW E39
Originally Posted by AsianML
It used to be Mobil1 0W-40 that the dealers often used and recommended, but now I heard they've switched to either 5W-something. Not sure.

However you can still use 0W-40 with no problems.
Seconded. Mobil 1 0W-40.
Old 01-02-2007, 06:04 PM
  #5  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
rah2ks430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Do I use 0W-40 year round or just during the winter since it's a very thin weight? And during summer go to 5W or 10w-40?

Does it have to be Mobil 1?

I paid $23K, came with 20s.
Old 01-02-2007, 11:44 PM
  #6  
Super Member
 
LetsJet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Haleiwa on my mind
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
355 F1 Spider & ......V12 w220.176
This is a big topic on ferrarichat.

From what I've read and understand, unless you are tracking your car and running over 8000 rpms , I'd stay away from 15-40w.

The real info shows 0 weight oil to be best at startup. Not what it needs to be to lubricate but much closer then 10 or 15w. As I'm sure you know the startup is a hash time for engines.

I suggest trying 0-20w or 0-30w and see how that does.

Of course I'm talking about synthetic oil... I use Mobil 1
Old 01-03-2007, 11:48 AM
  #7  
Out Of Control!!
 
AsianML's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 18,414
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
2007 E63
Originally Posted by rah2ks430
Do I use 0W-40 year round or just during the winter since it's a very thin weight? And during summer go to 5W or 10w-40?

Does it have to be Mobil 1?

I paid $23K, came with 20s.
0W-40 can be used year round, even in Michigan's harsh (not so harsh this year ) winters, and to newton22's hot Texas summers.

It doesn't have to be Mobil1 or 0W-40, but MB recommends and uses it for a reason. If your car came with a manual and service type booklet, there should be a list of other acceptable oils listed in there.
Old 01-03-2007, 12:02 PM
  #8  
Almost a Member!
 
BenzDieselTuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Heilbronn am Neckar, Deutschland; Cape Coral, Florida
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C123 TurboDiesel - 1985
Amsoil Series 2000 100% Synthetic 0W-30
Old 01-03-2007, 12:10 PM
  #9  
Member
 
H-townbenzoboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 227
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
1981 300SD TurboDiesel, 1982 300D TurboDiesel
Originally Posted by BenzDieselTuner
Amsoil Series 2000 100% Synthetic 0W-30
That's not on the approved oils list. Here's a list of the approved motor oils if you want to use something other than Mobil 1 0W-40. Any oil that has the 229.3, 229.5, or 229.51 approval is fine to use in your 2000 S430.
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html

Last edited by H-townbenzoboy; 01-03-2007 at 12:13 PM.
Old 01-03-2007, 12:51 PM
  #10  
Super Member
 
LetsJet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Haleiwa on my mind
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
355 F1 Spider & ......V12 w220.176
Originally Posted by rah2ks430
Do I use 0W-40 year round or just during the winter since it's a very thin weight? And during summer go to 5W or 10w-40?

Does it have to be Mobil 1?

I paid $23K, came with 20s.
All oils, even 0w are too thick at startup..... So, it's not as thin as you think.

Best to let your engine warm up before running up the RPMs

Oh, and it doesn't have to be Mobil 1, but why not? I would def. use as full a synthetic as poss.

Last edited by LetsJet; 01-03-2007 at 12:56 PM.
Old 01-03-2007, 04:41 PM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
newton22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 4,574
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
BMW E39
Mobil 1 is no longer full synthetic. It was proven through tests. But I still use it because that's what the car has been running since the beginning.
Old 01-03-2007, 05:48 PM
  #12  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
rah2ks430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Found this piece of reading on www.carbible.com/viscosity:

So 0W oils don't flow through a viscometer in zero seconds - they rate at 5 seconds like a 5W oil, but they will be pourable at a much lower temperature. The bottom line then is that if you think your car is ever likely to see a cold morning in the -45°F (-43°C) range, you should be considering 0W40 oil. If not, 5W40 will do. Note that at -45°F, you'll probably have more to worry about than your engine oil - like your radiator fluid, brittle tyres, frozen locks, permafrost on the windscreen etc.etc.etc.......

So seems I should be okay with 0W-40 or 5W-40.

Last edited by rah2ks430; 01-03-2007 at 05:57 PM.
Old 01-03-2007, 07:48 PM
  #13  
Super Member
 
kenstudios's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 987
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
I've used Mobil 1 0W40 for the last 6 years. Works great year round.
Old 01-03-2007, 09:09 PM
  #14  
Super Member
 
LetsJet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Haleiwa on my mind
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
355 F1 Spider & ......V12 w220.176
Originally Posted by newton22
Mobil 1 is no longer full synthetic. It was proven through tests. But I still use it because that's what the car has been running since the beginning.
True...

That's why I said "I would def. use as full a synthetic as poss."
Old 01-03-2007, 09:10 PM
  #15  
Super Member
 
LetsJet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Haleiwa on my mind
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
355 F1 Spider & ......V12 w220.176
Originally Posted by rah2ks430
Found this piece of reading on www.carbible.com/viscosity:

So ................... etc.etc.etc.......

So seems I should be okay with 0W-40 or 5W-40.

Your link doesn't work
Old 01-04-2007, 01:51 AM
  #16  
Member
 
holycowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'04 s55. Just went to dealer for "service B" and paperwork printout said 5w40, last time I changed by myself used 0w40
Old 01-18-2007, 02:32 PM
  #17  
Super Member
 
fkong777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 677
Received 26 Likes on 21 Posts
07 GL450, 91 NSX, 12 Prius
my indy put in Lubro Moly voll-synthese on the last change. Works fine. This time I'm doing a change myself and I will be using Royal Purple 5w-30.

These brand are know to be much better than mobil 1 BTW.

Last edited by fkong777; 01-18-2007 at 02:41 PM.
Old 01-18-2007, 02:41 PM
  #18  
Out Of Control!!
 
AsianML's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 18,414
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
2007 E63
Originally Posted by fkong777
my indy put in Lubro Moly full sytheis on the last change. Works fine. This time I'm doing a change myself and I will be using Royal Purple 5w-30.

These brand are know to be much better than mobil 1 BTW.
But is it approved by MB? According to Wolfgang's site, it's not.
Old 01-18-2007, 04:38 PM
  #19  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
newton22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 4,574
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
BMW E39
Originally Posted by AsianML
But is it approved by MB? According to Wolfgang's site, it's not.
MB can go ______ themselves.
Old 01-18-2007, 06:02 PM
  #20  
Super Member
 
fkong777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 677
Received 26 Likes on 21 Posts
07 GL450, 91 NSX, 12 Prius
Originally Posted by AsianML
But is it approved by MB? According to Wolfgang's site, it's not.
You can always use Mo1.. it is easy to find and recommended. But it just isnt the best synth oil out there.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: What oil brand and weight to use on 2k_s430 w/97k?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:52 AM.