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I Need Wheel Lug Bolts For My Aftermarket Wheels Help!

Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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I Need Wheel Lug Bolts For My Aftermarket Wheels Help!

I Need wheel lug bolts, because i got my car back from MB and they told me the studs i had, which is a conversion kit, werent holding the wheels too good, i need to buy some aftermarket wheel lug bolts, just dont know what width and length i have to buy.....andybody suggest aftermarket wheel lug bolts, becuase the factory ones are too long...

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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Contact the place you bought your wheels from. Otherwise, provide us the width and offset of your wheels and we'll see what we can do.

I run W211 E-class bolts on my 19s.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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ok they are 20x9 in front with 37mm offset and 20x10 in back with 32mm offset. i bought the wheels on ebay/...but now im nervous driving around with that conversion kit, cuz dealer basically told me they can fall off at any time...
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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Are you using your stock bolts? Are they too long? Do the wheels vibrate while driving?

Driving with the wrong bolts is very dangerous. In a worst case scenario, they can fall off/severely damage rotors/cause brake failure etc.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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yeah my passenger side of the car vibrates on the highway....i have these studs, that convert the holes on my hubs, into studs and then i put the rims on that....and then tigthen it......but not Bolts like the factory ones, i feel like my wheels are gonna fall off...too much vibrating in the city too...the dealer recommended i buy some studs, but off course they told me they had none to fit my aftermarket wheels.....remember sears messed up my hub cause they tried to use my stock lug bolts when putting them in....thats why my whole rear side hub got replaced at the dealer...

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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Contact the ebay dealer by phone.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by S500 Man
yeah my passenger side of the car vibrates on the highway....i have these studs, that convert the holes on my hubs, into studs and then i put the rims on that....and then tigthen it......but not Bolts like the factory ones, i feel like my wheels are gonna fall off...too much vibrating in the city too...the dealer recommended i buy some studs, but off course they told me they had none to fit my aftermarket wheels.....remember sears messed up my hub cause they tried to use my stock lug bolts when putting them in....thats why my whole rear side hub got replaced at the dealer...
What you have is NON hubcentric adapters hence the vibration. Which means you were FOS with the pic you posted because those wheels are an exact fit. BUt that's another story.
Since the adapters don't exactly fit your 66.56 bore, you are vibrating and there is nothing you can do about that except reomve them and and use the correct wheels which have a 5-112 bolt pattern.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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no my factory screws are too long, the pattern fits perfect....
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Which means you were FOS with the pic you posted because those wheels are an exact fit. BUt that's another story
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didnt i say he was trying to get attention with his "racism" thread and i was told if i dont like it dont read, funny (not talking to you but other people on here)
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by S500 Man
no my factory screws are too long, the pattern fits perfect....
You can try 211 E-class bolts. They're the exact same size, except shorter than the S-class bolts.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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bolt sizing is tricky and requires more info in regards to the wheel....e.g....

- is it cone or ball seat? what size?
- what is the shank length needed? (varies depending on spacer thickness etc)
- what is diameter of the bolt? (MB has used 12 and 14mm dia.)
- are they hubcentric (or adaptor fitted) to 66.6mm?
- just because the 5x112 fits means you're only part way there
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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no my factory screws are too long, the pattern fits perfect....
YOu shouldn't have used factory bolt in the first place because the seats are wrong for most Aftermarket wheels

The nominal size would be a 14X1.05 on a ball seat. the next size up is a 14X 1.15 which is as long as you want to go otherwise too long of a bolt in the rear will "F" up your E brake.
You can get bolt at any tire shop. like discount tire, NTW, etc.. they are about 20 to 25 bucks a set.
Cone seats are also out there but,you have to know what wheels you have. Most After market wheels that fit benz cars are ball seat.

Like I said before, This is a grown up forum. If this is your first car, you should have bought something a little less classy to screw up. I'm only saying this because I think you have been playing the kind folks on this forum as if were' stupid and have time for your BS. Here are my Key reasons and I do apologize to everyone else for getting in your *** about this but you deserve it and i know you agree.

1st.
NO BODY in Their RIGHT F^&king mind takes their mercedes car to SEARS for WHEEL or tire Work!

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If I am not mistaken, the 20's you posted in the Camera pic are double spoke knock-offs. You can NOT have mounted these wheels with lug adapters because they don't work, nor do they need them. and a 20" wheel with a 37 ofsett with an adapter which is at least another 10 to 15 mm? C'mon dude your wheels would have been hanging out of your rear fenders. PLEASE! So I think the pic was not even the car in discussion.

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This should have been an issue waaaaay back in FEB. WHen you opened up the thread about your MoDS. Now all of sudden you have Lug issues on a wheel which is more common than your car itself and NOBODY has Lug issues with this wheel.. IMO they should fall off because you are full of __it.

BYE. I'm through with this guy.

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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didnt i say he was trying to get attention with his "racism" thread and i was told if i dont like it dont read, funny (not talking to you but other people on here)
Actually, you also suggested shutting down the thread, which is what drew my comment. Keeping threads open that we may not agree with is not a bad thing - and the multiple inconstiencies in threads by S500 Man that you and others are pointing out suggest that he is FOS. Knowing how much so is not a bad thing.

Unfortunately, in the racism thread, some of the responders were showing their own racism, rather blatantly, and doing nothing but reinforcing what underlay S500 Man's complaint - although as I said many times in that thread, I think he was wrong (and why - at least 16 ways from Sunday).

S500 Man - this isn't the way to go.

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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heres 1 more pic of my car with my 1.3 mp camera phone...



its funny how nobody believes me i own this car lol, i pay 670 a month for this bad boy plus my insurance which is 380 a month wtf?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by S500 Man
heres 1 more pic of my car with my 1.3 mp camera phone...



its funny how nobody believes me i own this car lol, i pay 670 a month for this bad boy plus my insurance which is 380 a month wtf?
So! I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I can plainly see that those wheels have BoLts and not studs with nuts. Besides a nut would not even fit into those little holes....

Could you grace us with a close-up of those?

BTW. I could give a crap if you own it or not. It's not about that anymore. it's all about how completely FOS you are.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Easy there S500 man.
everyone in this forum drives a W220. They are as cheap as 20K now. not a big deal.

I'll be cool and give you some secrets

W220 has a unique 14mm lug bolt. OEM wheels has a Ball seat 14mm bolt but most aftermarket wheel will have a acorn or conical shape seat. but you still need 14mm lug bolts. from your stock lug figure out if you need longer or shorter lug bolts. go to this site and order new lug bolts.
http://www.ezaccessory.com/Lug_Bolts_s/20.htm

Get some hub centric rings too if your wheels isn't hub centered.

You should be able to figure out the rest by yourself.

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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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The botton line on the bolt issue is, that you need 14mm (metric thread), ball seated, high grade bolts. The minimum length has to allow for at least 7,5 turns in the hub. 1 turn is roughly 1,5mm. The bolts should not be much longer like 1 or 2 turn, because they will damage the brake assembly of the parking brake. Anything else like studs or so is dangerous!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder that the dealer let you drive away with the assembly after he found out that this is dangerous, he might run into deep trouble and liability issues if you and/or someone gets hurt because your wheels come off.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Skylaw
Actually, you also suggested shutting down the thread, which is what drew my comment. Keeping threads open that we may not agree with is not a bad thing - and the multiple inconstiencies in threads by S500 Man that you and others are pointing out suggest that he is FOS. Knowing how much so is not a bad thing.

Unfortunately, in the racism thread, some of the responders were showing their own racism, rather blatantly, and doing nothing but reinforcing what underlay S500 Man's complaint - although as I said many times in that thread, I think he was wrong (and why - at least 16 ways from Sunday).

S500 Man - this isn't the way to go.
no hard feelings towards you, i agree but we dont need people that waste others time around here
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 04:57 AM
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do you have a discounttire.com store near you? they usually carry bolts and hubcentric rings for cheap and will fix you up. they even gave me the bolts and rings for free, and i never even bought my wheels from them. love it.
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