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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Just Spoke with my german repair guy

So its confirmed there is a leak in the front strut and undercarriages control arms are bad. I shouldve brougth a dealer to inspect the car with me before I bought it.

The good thing is he said my warranty should cover it, So that will be done on Monday.

As for Today im getting Service B+ Some Transmission Service.

Totaling out 950 with Taxes.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Got Back home, I can acutally smell the AC air now and apparently this car hasnt been serviced by its previous owner(****ing *****). We changed pretty much everything. In terms of filters,. my transmision was also leaking fluid, u know the one that starts electircal fires


Now next week we will seal the Front Struts because now there is a Kit for it.
We need to chnage the lower control arm too, thx god my warranty says control arms those are pretty expensive.

If anyone is intrested to see the bill and what he did, I can upload the pic of the document.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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not interested in the bill but I'm sure it's a good one..

Anywayz this is how you begin the process of getting a used car up to snuff sooner or later it will be where you want it to be then you can just drive and enjoy for a while.....

Don't be mad at the previous owner..he sold it for a reason. Besides.. many people just drive cars till they don;t want to go anymore and put a for sale sign on them and move on to their next car to repeat the process. What do you do?

You hit the nail on the head by regretting at least a full inspection prior to purchase..... But this is what happens.. and just think, you got cold feet and backed out of that other deal fearing the exact same thing you are experiencing now... Oh well we live and learn.....
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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The Service B and Transmision Service are unavoidble, its a service which must be done. So I wont count it as a lost cost. So nothing to regret. Its maintenece what Can I Say.

As for Airmatic, thats the issue. But my warranty is good on it. So it wont cost too much and I love this car, so much. Its def worth it
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gondon
The Service B and Transmision Service are unavoidble, its a service which must be done. So I wont count it as a lost cost. So nothing to regret. Its maintenece what Can I Say.

As for Airmatic, thats the issue. But my warranty is good on it. So it wont cost too much and I love this car, so much. Its def worth it
Good to hear.

I think my tranny is overdue i just hate to touch it after my bad experience wit my clk 6 speed but i sure need too. its the only part i havent touched..

Was your tranny service included with the "B"price?
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gondon
So its confirmed there is a leak in the front strut and undercarriages control arms are bad. I shouldve brougth a dealer to inspect the car with me before I bought it.

The good thing is he said my warranty should cover it, So that will be done on Monday.

As for Today im getting Service B+ Some Transmission Service.

Totaling out 950 with Taxes.
Hate to hear the bad news. Hang in there as these type of issues should begin to settle down, especially if you take your car in for regular service as opposed to what the previous owner probably didn't do. Just remember, you're not driving a new car nor are you paying a new car payment. It'll be worth it. Glad you enjoy the car.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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Good to hear.

I think my tranny is overdue i just hate to touch it after my bad experience wit my clk 6 speed but i sure need too. its the only part i havent touched..

Was your tranny service included with the "B"price?
I always thought transmission was mechanical lol. like engine parts. But its liquid..

Apparently he flushed the transmisson and chnaged some fluids/seals and gaskets etc. Coolant etc.

www.ASwarranty.com
Platnium Coverage, I cant recoomend it yet, because we still havent called to see if they approve. But it they should according to contract, Ill tell you how it goes, when its done that should be next week. For now I have the car for the weekend
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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I always thought transmission was mechanical lol. like engine parts. But its liquid..

Apparently he flushed the transmisson and chnaged some fluids/seals and gaskets etc. Coolant etc.

www.ASwarranty.com
Platnium Coverage, I cant recoomend it yet, because we still havent called to see if they approve. But it they should according to contract, Ill tell you how it goes, when its done that should be next week. For now I have the car for the weekend
Piece of ****s denied my claim for $1400 For replacing all 4 control armsw/ labor.

they say 15 days is too soon, That I needed to wait 30 days.


Apparently they think it was a pre-existing condition, zz if I knew about this 30 day rule I wouldve waited.

Goona call my car dealer(the one who sold me it) and tell him to straighten this **** out.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gondon
Piece of ****s denied my claim for $1400 For replacing all 4 control armsw/ labor.

they say 15 days is too soon, That I needed to wait 30 days.


Apparently they think it was a pre-existing condition, zz if I knew about this 30 day rule I wouldve waited.

Goona call my car dealer(the one who sold me it) and tell him to straighten this **** out.
Yeah.... Good Luck...
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Yeah.... Good Luck...
Do you think I have a chance :S

Secretary who does all the paperwork from my repair shop said chances are very slim...

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Do you think I have a chance :S

Secretary who does all the paperwork from my repair shop said chances are very slim...
If they think it's pre-existing, you have no chance. In addition, they will probably deny coverage on any other claims until you can prove that these repairs have been made and that the car is 100% within manufacturer's specs. They might make you have the car inspected after you fix it. It's a long story, but I went through this with my warranty on my CL600. Also, make sure all services are done on time, as the warranty company can try to wiggle out of paying for repairs by claiming that you did not properly maintain the car on schedule. Some extended warranties can be a pain in the *** sometimes.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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If they think it's pre-existing, you have no chance. In addition, they will probably deny coverage on any other claims until you can prove that these repairs have been made and that the car is 100% within manufacturer's specs. They might make you have the car inspected after you fix it. It's a long story, but I went through this with my warranty on my CL600. Also, make sure all services are done on time, as the warranty company can try to wiggle out of paying for repairs by claiming that you did not properly maintain the car on schedule. Some extended warranties can be a pain in the *** sometimes.
Im goona cancel it and get my 1875$ back unless they agree to perfrom to contract.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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Im goona cancel it and get my 1875$ back unless they agree to perfrom to contract.
Before you do, check the contract for the specific language regarding pre-existing conditions. If "30 days" is just company policy and was not disclosed to you in writing, in advance, I would scream. Loud and long. Precisely what constitutes a "pre-existing condition"" - if it isn't defined, virtually anything that fails is "pre-existing" because every component of the car was subject to wear before you bought it. Therefore, a definition as to pre-existing is necessary, and they needed to tell you in the policy itself just what that is.

Otherwise, 3rd party warranty coverage on a used car is nothing but theft.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Before you do, check the contract for the specific language regarding pre-existing conditions. If "30 days" is just company policy and was not disclosed to you in writing, in advance, I would scream. Loud and long. Precisely what constitutes a "pre-existing condition"" - if it isn't defined, virtually anything that fails is "pre-existing" because every component of the car was subject to wear before you bought it. Therefore, a definition as to pre-existing is necessary, and they needed to tell you in the policy itself just what that is.

Otherwise, 3rd party warranty coverage on a used car is nothing but theft.
Spoke to them on the phone denied. Called my Dealer, he has a hook up. AutoSource called me back , but that 30 day rule ****ed me. I blame myself for not reading the contract carefully.

One Option was I take it to their dealer(Garden State, where I bought my car) and they may cover it because autosource works with them and he said they may help out. sounds kind of fishy lol.

Here is my bill though. Does it seem right?

Kraft Suspension Job

Front Shock Repair Kit- $297.50 LABOR and $250 PARTS

Front Lower Steel Control Arms+ Front Aluminum Control Arms=

$382.50 LABOR and $1044 in part 4 control arms.

Headlights

Left and right side headlight washers, $63.75 and $204


+ $194 TAX.

TOTAL= 24442.18


WARRANTY SHOULD COVER
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Front Lower Steel Control Arms+ Front Lower Aluminum Control Arms=

$382.50 LABOR and $1044 in part 4 control arms. = $1426.50



As of now my mind is 90% made up to get rid of the warranty and throw that $1875 that i get back towards the repair.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Skylaw
Before you do, check the contract for the specific language regarding pre-existing conditions. If "30 days" is just company policy and was not disclosed to you in writing, in advance, I would scream. Loud and long. Precisely what constitutes a "pre-existing condition"" - if it isn't defined, virtually anything that fails is "pre-existing" because every component of the car was subject to wear before you bought it. Therefore, a definition as to pre-existing is necessary, and they needed to tell you in the policy itself just what that is.

Otherwise, 3rd party warranty coverage on a used car is nothing but theft.
Amen to that,

But this has always been the problem with a lot of these policy's. LANGUAGE.. Plus the fact that most people are so busy being sold on the idea of "security" they don't bother to read and get a full understanding of what these agreements actually cover, what they don't cover, times limits, etc..

So now you have a guy stuck with a 2400.00 + bill who has just shelled out 1800.00 hoping to get the 2400.00 free minus deductible? I'm not wizard but What company could stay in business with this type of contingency hanging over their head? None!!

So, for their own security, they sell you what you think you need and what you actually have is a worthless document loaded with suppositions and limitations that you could never actually get any use out of it unless you have nearly worn the thing to the ends of its terms.

Do the math.. these company's aren't stupid...DO you think they would be so willing to take a risk on a 6 year old problem child if they didn't load the agreement for their own protection?

I know there are actually some good 3rd party warranties out there, but when you can go online and basically use your credit card to buy warranty for just about any POS off the corner lot, you have to wonder about the industry, and why nobody has done anything to stop or regulate. OH yeah I forgot.. $$$$$$$$$$$

Mortgage companies should have taken a self armament tip from the insurance industry..

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Spoke to them on the phone denied. Called my Dealer, he has a hook up. AutoSource called me back , but that 30 day rule ****ed me. I blame myself for not reading the contract carefully.

One Option was I take it to their dealer(Garden State, where I bought my car) and they may cover it because autosource works with them and he said they may help out. sounds kind of fishy lol.
You could give it a try; nothing to lose. The dealer makes a profit on the warranty, and if they steer a lot of business to the warranty company, they could have some sway. Perhaps even a split of parts and labor. It would save you money.

OK, the 30 day rule - I ask again, was it stated in your contract? Or just a "policy" you were told about on the phone?
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You could give it a try; nothing to lose. The dealer makes a profit on the warranty, and if they steer a lot of business to the warranty company, they could have some sway. Perhaps even a split of parts and labor. It would save you money.

OK, the 30 day rule - I ask again, was it stated in your contract? Or just a "policy" you were told about on the phone?
It says on the contract. Claims made within 30 days of purchase may be denied at discretion of adminsitrator.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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Amen to that,

But this has always been the problem with a lot of these policy's. LANGUAGE.. Plus the fact that most people are so busy being sold on the idea of "security" they don't bother to read and get a full understanding of what these agreements actually cover, what they don't cover, times limits, etc..

So now you have a guy stuck with a 2400.00 + bill who has just shelled out 1800.00 hoping to get the 2400.00 free minus deductible? I'm not wizard but What company could stay in business with this type of contingency hanging over their head? None!!

So, for their own security, they sell you what you think you need and what you actually have is a worthless document loaded with suppositions and limitations that you could never actually get any use out of it unless you have nearly worn the thing to the ends of its terms.

Do the math.. these company's aren't stupid...DO you think they would be so willing to take a risk on a 6 year old problem child if they didn't load the agreement for their own protection?

I know there are actually some good 3rd party warranties out there, but when you can go online and basically use your credit card to buy warranty for just about any POS off the corner lot, you have to wonder about the industry, and why nobody has done anything to stop or regulate. OH yeah I forgot.. $$$$$$$$$$$

Mortgage companies should have taken a self armament tip from the insurance industry..
Well they were going to cover 1400 out of the 2400. But basically if i wated 30 days, there woudve been no questions.

But as I see here. Anyone can expalin the purpose of control arms, I mean my mechanic said its recommneded we change them cause come on they been on the car since day one and its just getting old. Its no really problamatic I beilve. As for headlight washers , also no big deal.

All I really need is the front strut repair which is 500$ and thats all.
But I love the car, So Im willing to do all to make it feel better
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Anyone can expalin the purpose of control arms, I mean my mechanic said its recommneded we change them cause come on they been on the car since day one and its just getting old. Its no really problamatic I beilve. As for headlight washers , also no big deal.

All I really need is the front strut repair which is 500$ and thats all.
But I love the car, So Im willing to do all to make it feel better
All you really need IMO is a better ( More honest Mechanic..) Anybody can look at a car at any moment and recommend anything be changed. Its up to you to decide if its an issue or not. Did you get an alignment after the C/A change? these are major steering components that you obviously didn't even need but now because of that you NEED an alignment. did they do that?

Anywayz better luck next time with all of this...
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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All you really need IMO is a better ( More honest Mechanic..) Anybody can look at a car at any moment and recommend anything be changed. Its up to you to decide if its an issue or not. Did you get an alignment after the C/A change? these are major steering components that you obviously didn't even need but now because of that you NEED an alignment. did they do that?

Anywayz better luck next time with all of this...
What?

I think the mechanic is pretty honest.I know alot of people that go there. He is just saying what I need.

C/A CHANGE??
What C/A Change? Major Steering Compnenets? What Alignment?

Im lost dude.... Are you confusing me with someone else..?


Hey, I got you Control Arms.

I didnt do any work on the car yet
SO your saying there is no need to replace the control arms?

I searched For control arms and i found you dont need them unless you have some noise when u go voer bumps, mine is very smooth

Thx MyClk for your post

I will just do the $500 strut seal kit.

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sorry to hear you needed repairs so soon. Most aftermarket warranty company do need a 30 days and 1000 miles. period before you can repair anything. They do that so you dont buy any junker out their and make them repair it. The agent that sold you the policy should have told you that.

Air suspension usually are not cover unless you pay extra to cover it. Control arm should be covered if you have a premium coverage.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Gondon, did you have any luck getting your warranty to cover?
I was busy to fully sort it out, but they keep talking about pre-existing obviously its ****ing pre-existing lol control arms begin to wear out the second they are made. Its been wearing out for a long *** time. I will cancel it soon.

I acutally brought my car in today for Front Strut Seal Kit.
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Sorry to hear about your troubles, and good luck.

Was this car from a MB dealer, and was it CPO? (I imagine no to the last question).

Also, u stated u bought it from a dealer. U should have a 30 day bumper-bumper warranty regardless of which dealer. (Unless u bought it "as is").
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