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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Has anyone added V12 biturbo fender emblems to their S600?

Anyone have the part number?



2003 S600
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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i know of only a few who have, one of the fastest 600's in the country rocks those, i personally do not and choose to keep my badges stock
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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would like to see how the 'added' badge looks...not sure it would look clean or not since the standard s600 'v12' fits perfectly on the end of the plastic insert just past the car door...

saw a biturbo v12 added to the rear deck on a 600 once, but not on the side...

personally i think it would it would be hella funny to debadge the 600 and put 190E 2.3!!!
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Take the V12 off the body side molding and add the "V12 biturbo" on the fender.

I've seen the V8 kompressor fender emblems and they look neat...on the E55s.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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Here you go... on my '05 S600:

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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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And a little perspective...

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Did you ad the "bi turbo" to the engine as well?
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by moparrbust
Did you ad the "bi turbo" to the engine as well?
Why would you? The above picture shows an S65 knock-off (same brakes and wheels to go with badging). But the only badge on an S65 engine is "AMG."
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Why would you? The above picture shows an S65 knock-off (same brakes and wheels to go with badging). But the only badge on an S65 engine is "AMG."
Maybe I worded my prior response in a misleading way.........


Did you add the two turbochargers to the engine to justify the otherwise false advertising of such on the fenders? That might be a more clear question.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by moparrbust
Maybe I worded my prior response in a misleading way.........


Did you add the two turbochargers to the engine to justify the otherwise false advertising of such on the fenders? That might be a more clear question.
S600 from 2003 on is twin turbo.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by moparrbust
Maybe I worded my prior response in a misleading way.........


Did you add the two turbochargers to the engine to justify the otherwise false advertising of such on the fenders? That might be a more clear question.
2003+ s600's do have two turbochargers


edit: too slow
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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That looks really nice Oxygen!
I might do that on my S600 as well (after I put the AMG styling on it). A little offtopic but can you tell me your tire sizes and is your car lowered?
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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Why would you? The above picture shows an S65 knock-off (same brakes and wheels to go with badging). But the only badge on an S65 engine is "AMG."
Please show some respect for the amount of time and effort that I've put into my car and refrain from calling it an "S65 Knock-off"... my car is far from anything like that.

Not an AMG car but does have a V12 Biturbo engine...

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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 12:51 AM
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A little offtopic but can you tell me your tire sizes and is your car lowered?
Yes the car is lowered via RENNtech ELM v2.

Tires are 245/40-19 Front and 275/35-19 Rear.

Here's the full shot:

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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by moparrbust
Did you add the two turbochargers to the engine to justify the otherwise false advertising of such on the fenders? That might be a more clear question.
Why yes! I asked my friends in Sindelfingen to throw these on for me...

Here we have the intercoolers along with the manifold that goes down somewhere on both sides of the engine... I wonder where?


Oh that's it, turns out that under that microfiber cloth was a turbo, and the same strange thing happened when I looked on the other side... Crazy right?


I guess it's not false advertising after all!
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Oxygen
Please show some respect for the amount of time and effort that I've put into my car and refrain from calling it an "S65 Knock-off"... my car is far from anything like that.

Not an AMG car but does have a V12 Biturbo engine...

No disrespect intended. I was defending you

They're all authentic S65 parts. How would you like it referred to? "Replicated S65 front end with factory wheels and brakes" seems a bit of a mouthful. But it's very nicely done.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Oxygen
Yes the car is lowered via RENNtech ELM v2.

Tires are 245/40-19 Front and 275/35-19 Rear.

Here's the full shot:

Nice job !! Very clean and nice looking S600 !! I will do the same if I got the S600 !!
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Beautiful car. Just beautiful ...
I have to do the same to my S600. I don't understand why is it such a problem if your car resembles a S65. Here in Europe It's quite normal that people buy a car and than add the styling package of a "better" version (as an example, the BMW series 5 in all it's versions is the most common with the added M package - not unusual to change also the rear view mirrors or adding the vents with the M5 logo to add to the "M5 effect") and no big deal about it. The AMG styling was an option for the S600, you just added the wheels and breaks. And it's not a "posers car" since you didn't add the S65 or AMG emblems.

I see you have the ABC suspension. Was it a problem adding a lowering module? I have heard that adding a lowering modul might make the ABC suspension more prone to problems? Just asking since I'm not an expert on the subject ...
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Prinz Eugen
Beautiful car. Just beautiful ...
I have to do the same to my S600. I don't understand why is it such a problem if your car resembles a S65. Here in Europe It's quite normal that people buy a car and than add the styling package of a "better" version (as an example, the BMW series 5 in all it's versions is the most common with the added M package - not unusual to change also the rear view mirrors or adding the vents with the M5 logo to add to the "M5 effect") and no big deal about it. The AMG styling was an option for the S600, you just added the wheels and breaks. And it's not a "posers car" since you didn't add the S65 or AMG emblems.

I see you have the ABC suspension. Was it a problem adding a lowering module? I have heard that adding a lowering modul might make the ABC suspension more prone to problems? Just asking since I'm not an expert on the subject ...
I don't think anyone said it's a problem. I certainly didn't.

The one question I'd have is why not just put the money into getting a used W220 S65? They're real bargains now and those brakes and wheels aren't cheap. And the "hidden" differences (like 1000 Nm of torque, sportier transmission and suspension calibration, stronger drivetrain components, ...) are very significant. The brakes and 19" wheels are a start, but I would think they cost a significant fraction of what a complete upgrade (to the AMG) would cost.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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No disrespect intended. I was defending you

They're all authentic S65 parts. How would you like it referred to? "Replicated S65 front end with factory wheels and brakes" seems a bit of a mouthful. But it's very nicely done.
Call it what it is, it isn't complicated it's an S600 with an AMG kit....a badass one at that.

Call it
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Prinz Eugen
I see you have the ABC suspension. Was it a problem adding a lowering module? I have heard that adding a lowering modul might make the ABC suspension more prone to problems? Just asking since I'm not an expert on the subject ...
Yes, when I installed it on my S500, everything worked fine, but that car had Airmatic.

When I installed it on my S600 (with ABC), the rear of the car went up instead of down. I called the friendly support staff at RENNtech and they told me which 2 wires to swap and admitted to ****ing up the manual. The *** went down as soon as the wires were swapped.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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The one question I'd have is why not just put the money into getting a used W220 S65?
True... I guess. When I was shopping for my car (Late May, early June) all the S65's that I saw with the mileage that I wanted were really expensive. It was between an S55 and a S600 for me, and I test drove several of each model, and I had to choose the 600 with the monsterious torque and the many possibilities that come with a turbo car. Plus I found car out in San Diego, which means it's never seen snow, salt and sand which plagues East Coast cars.

Originally Posted by whoover
They're real bargains now and those brakes and wheels aren't cheap. And the "hidden" differences (like 1000 Nm of torque, sportier transmission and suspension calibration, stronger drivetrain components, ...) are very significant. The brakes and 19" wheels are a start, but I would think they cost a significant fraction of what a complete upgrade (to the AMG) would cost.
There is a lot of work done to my car and it should give any stock S65 a run for it's money.

Back in june when my car only had an ECU and Exhaust, it ran 505RWHP and 648lb-ft torque at the wheels... that translated into crank power should be in the neighborhood of 606HP/770lb-ft torque or 1053 Nm...

Since then I've upgraded the filters to BMC F1 filters, isolated components with heat shielding, upgraded the IC pump, re-routed the intercooler coolant lines and installed new intake ducts. On the roadmap for the month coming up, we have a new Meisterschaft Exhaust cans, 3.5" FABSpeed cat back exhaust, ECU Stage II and TCU flash. I am also buying the AMG Heat Exchanger from the S65.

Even with the prices of the 65's now, the amount of money I put into my car does not add up.
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Originally Posted by whoover
I don't think anyone said it's a problem. I certainly didn't.
I remember reading that somewhere on the net (not on this forum though). But if it's not a problem (and I also thought it shouldn't be) that great ...

The one question I'd have is why not just put the money into getting a used W220 S65? They're real bargains now and those brakes and wheels aren't cheap.
And that is indeed true for the USA and some places in Europe. In my country, there are just a few S65 and if for sale, they are still priced above 130.000 USD (and importing one from abroad would cost as much). So buying a used one is not an option (at the moment). For example, there is a used 2005 SL65 for sale for more than 200.000 USD (way too much in my opinion).

Beside, I don't plan to add the AMG discs and calipers. I would just like to put the AMG styling package (and that was a factory option for the S600, at least it was in Europe) and just add the S65 wheels (as I find them to be of great visual effect on the W220).
I must admit I don't understand why some think that is wrong. It's not like trying to pass for something that you (your car) isn't. Not trying to be a poser or something by adding the AMG logo etc.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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When I installed it on my S600 (with ABC), the rear of the car went up instead of down. I called the friendly support staff at RENNtech and they told me which 2 wires to swap and admitted to ****ing up the manual. The *** went down as soon as the wires were swapped.
Good to know, thanks!
Then, I think I'll go too with the RENNTech ELM when I complete the other stuff I have in mind ...
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Please show some respect for the amount of time and effort that I've put into my car and refrain from calling it an "S65 Knock-off"... my car is far from anything like that.
hey man...anybody that implies you're a poser...you're not! You've done your car nicely and tastefully! if you have the chance to race a 65 you will probably take it with your mods...then we'll start seeing 65'er's trying to pose a 600!...not...but your hard work shows and a great looking car!

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