marklu98

what do you all think of BRABUS E V12 based on the new E-Class

it's got 640 hp / 471 kW, 1.026 Nm, 340 km/h, which goes on production in small-series this summer...

would anyone bother? or go with the S? performance wise?

MercManiac

Get the V12 regular S600 and have the dealer install RennTech Engine Management Chip which brings car to Maybach spec engine.....then everything is still under warranty and similar amount of HP. See posts by Treynor at dragstrip with exact car and he also shows Dyno tests.

Paul Le Corre

When I see this kind of comment, I don't even want to answer.
Do you think that your little renntech tuner can do the same thing that Brabus with only chip tuning when Brabus need to increase the engine displacement and completely rebuild the engine? Do you think that AMG would bother heavily tune the S 600 engine to produces 612 HP if a simple chip tuning would offer the same thing?

MercManiac

Again, just check out Treynors posts about his 2003 S600...it shows actual Dyno results. The S600 was "detuned", it is actually an exact Maybach engine....which has been totally underrated by MB....as is their custom to do a lot of times. Barabus quotes HP at the flywheel, Treynors Dyno results show HP at rear wheel (where it counts) and it blows away the Barabus configuration.

BTW, why the attitude??? This is a forum board for mannerly discussion Is this something that all you "Frenchmen" suffer from...maybe you have this attitude since you realize the whole world realizes how many times your country has wimped out and surrendered in the past 100 years?....and your attitude is merely an extension of your being ashamed???

wmak8

LOL That's a good one. I think Brabus parts and conversions are overpriced.

damcgee

Wow, this got belligerent quickly, LOL. That LOL is literally, I laughed heartily when I read your response MercManiac. Of course, I drank a bit tonight, so maybe that's why I'm especially jovial.

benznut

An American I suppose, MercManiac, right?
And why your own attitude? It is because of comments like this, among others, that US does not enjoy any popularity in the world right now. Whenever the US needs oil, war has got to be approved? There is plenty for u to be ashamed as well for your country, but we are not here for that.

Iron Sheik

Iron Sheik

MercManiac

Doing what is "right" never wins a popularity contest...nor is it the goal.

treynor

> Do you think that your little renntech tuner can do the same
> thing that Brabus with only chip tuning

This really is the stupidest comment I've seen yet on the board.

Iron Sheik

Iron sheik

ajayz

id rather take an S600. It's a lot bigger- which i like, and it has enough speed for me.

benznut

What is "right" seems to have so many twists today. Like violating international conventions etc.

sportlichE430

quote:
"What is "right" seems to have so many twists today. Like violating international conventions etc."

What's with the American bashing Benznut? We're not the ones suffering from a Napoleon complex.

benznut

I got nothing against America, or anything American. What I cannot absolutely stand is messages like that of someone else here on this very forum jumping on other's throat for no apparent reason, insulting them for something with not even the farthest connection to what was in discussion (Brabus vs. Renntech).

I currently live in America, and all I got and have achieved today is undoubtedly in large part thanks to the vast opportunities and hearty openness that this country has toward all people from all places.

However, stating your opinion is one thing, imposing yours and denigrating others for thinking otherwise is quite another. Gentlemen, it is world politics. There is quite a lot more than what seems to be at stake. And you know that in both sides of the equation there are honest reasons as well as hidden agendas. In the US side there was a great honest reason: fighting terrorism. But who is dumb enough to discredit the Iraq oil wells as mere coincidences? In the French (and other's) agenda was an underground reason: greedy concerns that US is getting what they probably counld as well get their hands on. But there was another, applausible concern: US was acting like a bully, attacking a state, nonetheless, whose guilt had not yet been proved, and for which was not given permission for, according to international laws.

Well, sorry for the lengthy post, I promise it will be the last on my part, regarding this subject.
Now onto Barabus E v12

sportlichE430

Hopefully, we end up with a democracy there. The only Iraqis driving an MB shouldn't have to be 1. male 2. live at the palace
Heads up Iran!

Iron Sheik

If you know how the situation it is in Iraq, then you'd know why the only iraqis that drive benzes are 1. male 2. live at the palace

If you want to know more, just pm me! I'm from there and I know what is going on back home cuz my dad is currently there for the sake of his business! I'd be happy to tell you what is really going on there!

Iron Sheik

99bmw740il

I hate the french!

vraa

Ok.. end of this country crap and hating.. Lets keep it W220 related. You want to argue about anything but that? Take it to the off topic forum.

99E55

Get your head out of your a$$ moron! Go back to planet REDNECK.

Benznut don't waste your time arguing with morons.
We are here to talk about MBs and have fun.