DirtyVegasMB

I am looking to get a 4 door grocery getter so I can keep my 997 C2S in garage more often.

I have an opportunity to buy the car in the link below from my father. The car has approximately 78K on it and is still under warranty until 100k / 2013 through Fidelity. The car has always been serviced / repaired at the dealer and is currently there now getting some minor repairs and a tune up.

I can get the car for around $19K which is the loan payoff. Is $19K a good deal for this '04 S600 Lorinser that is still under warranty?

https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...nser-s600.html

tusabes

Yes that is a very good deal, being under warranty for 22k miles and 2 more years. The value of that warranty alone is significant. Sell it about 6 months before the warranty expires so the next owner wont have any issues.

heck Id give $19k for it. Its beautiful. Love the unique color combo, even though im not a huge fan or the Lorinser kit as it makes it look a bit dated.

DirtyVegasMB

Really? I think the kit makes it look less dated. I guess its all preference.

srknutson

Body looks well taken care of, I was wondering did Lorsner take the wood out of the car and replace with mat black?

classyS

19k for s600 with 78k..

how long do the V12TT engines typically last?? 150k+?

thats a good deal, i always wonder how long the engines last for someone who drives under 10k a year.

DirtyVegasMB

I don't think so. It is wood inside. It looks gray / ash color.

babyman1737

I always find it interesting when someone asks a question like this. By engine do you mean turbochargers, water pump, fuel injectors, COIL PACKS, air flow sensors, etc?
Or do just mean engine as in the block, pistons, and heads?

If it's the first, not long.
If it's the second, forever. Compared to the first.

tusabes

Coil packs are not as big a problem on the turbo cars as the early nonturbo v12s....

But I agree it's all those engine accessories which will fail before the actual engine died , and each of those is a four figure repair

classyS

damn.... turbochargers too???

question answered.

classyS

i could imagine someone selling a used 2003+ S600..

"needs tune-up, only 98k miles, 1st owner, $18,000"

seller explains to buyer.. "it needs new turbochargers, water pump, fuel injectors, COIL PACKS, air flow sensors though, but its yours today for 18k"

DirtyVegasMB

Man... are these things really that bad? Anytime there was a problem the dealer took care of it. They actually had to look for things that were wrong with the car and settled on one cracked belt that needs replacement and a rubber tranny mount. Will this thing just fall appart in a year if there is absolutely nothing wrong with it now?

I read about all the happy tuned S600 owners here, and now that I'm looking at one I have everyone here telling me this thing is going to literally fall apart. What gives?

tusabes

Its not that they fall apart, they do have some commoin failure items which are very expensive and its lunacy to keep it past warranty period.

Dont plan on keeping it 3-5 years if you dont want to risk a huge repair bill. But for the next two years while its under warranty its an awesome purchase. Just don't keep it past warranty period .

MRAMG1

You must NOT be familiar with these cars, as the ONLY parts required at 100K are plugs, and coil packs. Parts wise about 2K, labor depends on where.

who ever said you had to replace the turbos

FormulaZR

And you're first hand experience with the M275 is what, exactly?



Expensive in what way? I coil pack can be had for under $900 new and a PSE pump is $600. The spark plugs are a little spendy - mostly because there are 24 of them. Oil changes are somewhat spendy, too - because they hold 9.5 qts. As long as you know the costs going in, I don't see why people are surprised...

I've had mine for 3 years with no warranty - it has set me back: a coil pack ($850), intercooler pump ($200), front rotors/pads ($315), battery ($185), and some misc plastic pieces ($35). Tell me another 650hp/900lb-ft car you could own for the same money.

Also, my CL600 has been the easiest car to work on that I've ever had. Coil pack replacements can be done in under 30 minutes - and if you get dirty changing it then it's just because you rubbed grease under your own fingernails so people would believe you'd been under a hood. Spark plug changes take only slightly longer - 45 minutes a side...maybe. Intercooler pump can be changed in 1-2 hours, PSE pump in 20 minutes...and the list just goes on and on. I'm not saying the M275 or W220 are free from problems - but they aren't as scary as they are made out to be.

classyS

lol i was just asking the life span of the s600TT's considering their price range right now at 17-25k with fairly low miles.. which ive been very interested and actually waiting to hear u guys chime in with actual numbers, thanks for clarifying guys.

its pretty straight forward, for 20k ive decided yeah u could get an EVO, STI, CADILLAC but for the amount of horsepower to price tag, nothing beats S600TT/S55..

DirtyVegasMB

Well... I just placed an order for a Eurocharged tune! The car has new Micheline tires all around so I am eager to see what the tune will do for spine crushing accelerations.

tusabes

Expensive as in coil pack and plugs is a four figure repair bill, the abc suspension is a four figure repair bill, etc.

I wouldnt be as concerned about the engine as I would the abc suspension since they all fail at some point. You want that point to be while under warranty are you are fortunate not to have needed abc repair yet.

Vabene7

I do agree with you Tusabes.... The ABC is a question of when, not "if". At least for most of our cars.... But you can get lucky and never have an issue up to 100k miles, but that scenario is the exception, not the norm.
I had to replace many ABC parts at one service claim and the parts and labor was about $4k.
My 2 cents is, unless you are ready to possibly spend $$ on substantial repair costs, have a V12TT with a warranty.

-Chris

P.S. DirtyVegas, the car looks really sharp and even without the sick Eurocharged tune, the car will put a smile on your face each and every time you drive it. It does exactly that for me.

Fraser

It's a very unusual designo:

https://mbworld.org/forums/3927039-post4.html

DirtyVegasMB

The car is at the dealer getting a few service items done now. Once it is out of there it will receive a new car detail with all carpets washed and a full leather treatment.

Then I will load the Eurocharged tune... can't wait!

MRAMG1

You will REALLY love it then

I have one of their first tunes and even the wife tells me " Never sell this damm car". It really makes it that much more fun to drive

carbizindio

with out the features it would whole sale for around 14-16k

drabux

I know this is a fairly old thread but thought I should report on the repair history of my 145,000 mile S600. This is a tuned car and is driven hard I was looking through the repair history and, apart from lots and lots of tyres, a few pads & discs and some control arms, other jobs have been minimal. The major engine and suspension problems have been:

1. Tandem pump went at 120k
2. Belt tensioner at 132k
3. One ignition coil at 110k

No other ABC or other engine issues.

Since this is a UK car, it has suffered from rust (shocking, I know), and this has been fixed under warranty.

Okay, so maybe everything is about to fail in the next few thousand miles but, up until now, I don't consider this list of repairs excessive for a 600+bhp car.

Chris250

The warranty puts it over the edge. Buy and enjoy for a year or two then sell.