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If you were buying a 2004 S600?

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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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If you were buying a 2004 S600?

If you were buying an 2004 S600, when consdiering the purchase, what sort of maintance costs would you figure in as soon as you got the car. Lets say 70,000 miles on the car. When I first get any care, I like to put all new stuff in there that is a known problem for the next 20-30k miles.
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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What do you mean? Like you want to replace the ABC pump/block, transmission plug, Service B with charcoal filter etc, PSE pump, tire pressure sensors (last about 6-7 years, will now need to be replaced)?

Is there something wrong with the vehicle right now? In my opinion many people on here seem to report $1-$2k per year in repairs. Whether that be common issues or isolated ones. It also all depends if you do the work yourself, independent shop, or mercedes dealership. Expect most repairs to be about 1/5th as much if you do the work yourself.
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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ABC suspension can be a $3-6k repair and eventually every s600 will need it repaired
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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In the last 2 months I needed a new TCU, Transmission Valve Body, a new Transmission, a TQ converter... not sure what happened underneath there, but I'm glad I have extended warranty that is covering this $10K+ job.
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyVegasMB
In the last 2 months I needed a new TCU, Transmission Valve Body, a new Transmission, a TQ converter... not sure what happened underneath there, but I'm glad I have extended warranty that is covering this $10K+ job.
If the transmission electrical plug was replaced when the problems started, I could almost guarantee 90% of those problems wouldn't have happened. Every S-class (5-speed) owner should have that electrical plug replaced.
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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what symptoms? what do mean electrical plug?
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by scarybary
what symptoms? what do mean electrical plug?
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w220...n-leakage.html

Under the sticky "W220 OWNERS START HERE" in the transmission section.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 08:56 AM
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The trans connector leaks and oil travels up the harness, destroying the harness, the conductor plate, the TCU, and eventually the trans.

The best investment you can make when buying an S600 is a good extended warranty. No way can you plan to replace all the things that might need replacing between 70K and 100K, it'll cost more than the car!

If youu'd like help finding a great, carefully inspected S600, and a warranty to go with it, send me an email to brucem105@comcast.net.

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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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Bruce! That is exactly what has happened to my car, there was a leak which got repaired somewhere below and it started a domino effect of problems for all the components you mentioned below. You'd think that the dealer would know about this?

Either way, it was at the dealer for 3 weeks and warranty covered all the work, less $100 deductible. So in a way I am happy that everything has been replaced. Is there a chance of this happening again?

Crazy that this is a regular accurance on these cars...

Originally Posted by Becks Imports
The trans connector leaks and oil travels up the harness, destroying the harness, the conductor plate, the TCU, and eventually the trans.

The best investment you can make when buying an S600 is a good extended warranty. No way can you plan to replace all the things that might need replacing between 70K and 100K, it'll cost more than the car!

If youu'd like help finding a great, carefully inspected S600, and a warranty to go with it, send me an email to brucem105@comcast.net.

Bruce
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyVegasMB
Bruce! That is exactly what has happened to my car, there was a leak which got repaired somewhere below and it started a domino effect of problems for all the components you mentioned below. You'd think that the dealer would know about this?

Either way, it was at the dealer for 3 weeks and warranty covered all the work, less $100 deductible. So in a way I am happy that everything has been replaced. Is there a chance of this happening again?

Crazy that this is a regular accurance on these cars...
The electrical connector piece under the transmission is the culprit. The replaced unit (that all S-class owners should do) is an updated unit. This should resolve the problem from happening again.

All S-class owners should change this electrical plug, and MOST should also change the transmission mount too as it causes vibrations and is very easy to change.
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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Whenever I buy an MB for a client that is one of the specific items I inspect for. It's so common I can't believe they have not been taken to task for it.

It's the classic case of a $200 problem that, if let go, turns into a $2500 problem (harness, conductor plate, TCU) and then a $9500 problem (all that stuff plus trans rebuild).

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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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spend the $150 and have a dealer inspect it before buying it. hidden problems can get $$$. Then get a easy care warranty and overhaul it after a few months. They are not a Honda by any means but well worth the money they are selling for
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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Does this transmission electrical plug issue apply to the 7-speed transmission in my '06 S500? I read the thread linked, and it seemed to reference a pre '04 car, and this thread talks about transmission failures on an S600. Thanks.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ChapelHillMBFan
Does this transmission electrical plug issue apply to the 7-speed transmission in my '06 S500? I read the thread linked, and it seemed to reference a pre '04 car, and this thread talks about transmission failures on an S600. Thanks.
I believe this thread applies only to the S600, which always used the 5-speed. The '04+ S500 uses a 7-speed, which doesn't have the electrical plug issue.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by babyman1737
I believe this thread applies only to the S600, which always used the 5-speed. The '04+ S500 uses a 7-speed, which doesn't have the electrical plug issue.
Great. Thanks. It was my understanding that this thread and the linked thread were only talking about the 5-speed, but I just wanted to make sure the issue didn't apply to the 7-speed as well. One less thing to worry about...
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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Boy I just puchased a 2004 S500 with the 4madic 5 speed trans. Does this appy to that as well. It has 68K on it.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:43 PM
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does what apply? Yes you should get a warranty.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:55 PM
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This is the all wheel drive 5 speed transmission so this applies to that also.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 01:31 AM
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Carsilla if you'd like a warranty quote just email me the VIN# and odo reading to brucem105@comcast.net.

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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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Protective cover for electrical connector

The connector failed on my G and was replaced with an updated unit.

Problem - there is NO protective cover on the Gwagen! it is an off road truck and this part can get hit or compromised. My tech couldnt believe there was no shield since there is one on all the cars. I know this is a different car thread but it is the same 5 speed. does anyone know if there is a retrofit cover or will I nee to have a local shop fabricate one?

Can anyone post a picture of the cover - the links on that site don't work with my ISP so I cannot see the cover. I know this is a bit rambling but thanks for your tolerance.

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by Becks Imports
Whenever I buy an MB for a client that is one of the specific items I inspect for. It's so common I can't believe they have not been taken to task for it.

It's the classic case of a $200 problem that, if let go, turns into a $2500 problem (harness, conductor plate, TCU) and then a $9500 problem (all that stuff plus trans rebuild).

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