engine swap
hey guys
I'v been looking at a 2000 s320L and the mechanic told me he'd its engine swapped with a 2004 s350
with salvage parts
the original engine seized 'coz there was an oil leak and the 1st owner didnt notice.
the 2004 s350 was involved in a minor crash but not head-on(according to the mechanic,he isnt sure though but theres no damage to the engine)
I tried the ride and its real zippy compared to the s320 2001 I'm driving now?
normally I would shy away from buying a car with such questionable history,but do you guys have some opinions?
Thanks!
I'v been looking at a 2000 s320L and the mechanic told me he'd its engine swapped with a 2004 s350
with salvage partsthe original engine seized 'coz there was an oil leak and the 1st owner didnt notice.
the 2004 s350 was involved in a minor crash but not head-on(according to the mechanic,he isnt sure though but theres no damage to the engine)
I tried the ride and its real zippy compared to the s320 2001 I'm driving now?
normally I would shy away from buying a car with such questionable history,but do you guys have some opinions?
Thanks!
Last edited by HanSolo; Dec 28, 2012 at 01:39 AM.
If it actually runs without any obvious faults, I guess that's a good swap, but there's a few possible issues:
Insurance companies will presumably want to know about the modification
Doesn't the S350 have better brakes than the S320 - there's quite a big difference in power?
Are the engine and tranny properly integrated - does it shift smoothly?
What else did the first owner neglect to maintain properly - there's lots more to looking after a car than checking the oil?
Nick
Insurance companies will presumably want to know about the modification
Doesn't the S350 have better brakes than the S320 - there's quite a big difference in power?
Are the engine and tranny properly integrated - does it shift smoothly?
What else did the first owner neglect to maintain properly - there's lots more to looking after a car than checking the oil?
Nick
If it actually runs without any obvious faults, I guess that's a good swap, but there's a few possible issues:
Insurance companies will presumably want to know about the modification
Doesn't the S350 have better brakes than the S320 - there's quite a big difference in power?
Are the engine and tranny properly integrated - does it shift smoothly?
What else did the first owner neglect to maintain properly - there's lots more to looking after a car than checking the oil?
Nick
Insurance companies will presumably want to know about the modification
Doesn't the S350 have better brakes than the S320 - there's quite a big difference in power?
Are the engine and tranny properly integrated - does it shift smoothly?
What else did the first owner neglect to maintain properly - there's lots more to looking after a car than checking the oil?
Nick
I don't plan to tell the insurance,its 3rd party,I'm not covered..

The better brakes - Hadn't thought of that bit
Will it help if I drove a bit slower??
The shifts are buttersmooth(I think) - I kept it under 100kph and as far as I could tell- no discernable problems -I'm no authority on this though -
the car looks well maintained - on the inside - some of the plastics havent yet come out( eg the metal mercedes benz stepping strip we see as we open the door - at the bottom)
I dont know of the transmission - but the mechanic tells me its A -ok then again he sells ice to Eskimos!
However since the drive-train is original it must have run many more miles than the newer engine.
Last edited by HanSolo; Dec 28, 2012 at 05:44 AM.
Are there any tell-tale signs know for sure if the drive train has been damaged or might need replaced in the near future?
Last edited by HanSolo; Dec 28, 2012 at 08:03 AM.
I, personally, have swapped engines on a Nissan Sentra and an Audi 100LS with no problems. It is a good, inexpensive way to save a good car from the scrap yard. There is generally no issue with replacing the engine with a new(er) one. It would not scare me a bit, ESPECIALLY since we are talking about a 12 y/o car and an 8 y/o engine. HOWEVER, You should be able to use THAT information to negotiate yourself a better deal on the car. He obviously got a sick deal on the car/engine so I am reasonably sure there is a LOT of room for negotiation there.
Good luck sir,
Keith
It's a better engine and if the swap was done correctly there should be no problem
Just make sure when getting it serviced they know its a 350 so they use the correct filters and parts - that's the biggest risk down the road someone putting wrong parts on it thinking its a 320
Just make sure when getting it serviced they know its a 350 so they use the correct filters and parts - that's the biggest risk down the road someone putting wrong parts on it thinking its a 320
The mechanic wont know what hit him!
I'm planning to sell off my current s320 however I spend loads of $$ on repair including the rear airmatics(spanking new),I plan to swap all those too,so the mechanic has the upper hand here...
One concern I've had is the aircon, while I try to turn down my zone temp I hear a nosiy motor,some kind of whirring sound(its loud), it stops but my current car does not have that problem./>
is this something to be concerned about coz with mercs we never know....
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Thanks! I'll look closely into that one then...
I plan to swap tires too,this one feature original tires while I'm running 255 45 18'' ,do you recommend I swap or stick to the original tires/will it make a vast difference in ride quality/ >
also the engine sounds racy compared to the s320 - is that normal ???
thirdly,my current s320 has tight gears,but this car the gear slips effortlessly through R-N-D, I dont know how the stick is mated to the trasnmission but can this tell us anything about one tranyy being in a better condition than the other, conclusively ??
I plan to swap tires too,this one feature original tires while I'm running 255 45 18'' ,do you recommend I swap or stick to the original tires/will it make a vast difference in ride quality/ >
also the engine sounds racy compared to the s320 - is that normal ???
thirdly,my current s320 has tight gears,but this car the gear slips effortlessly through R-N-D, I dont know how the stick is mated to the trasnmission but can this tell us anything about one tranyy being in a better condition than the other, conclusively ??
Last edited by HanSolo; Dec 31, 2012 at 11:37 PM.
The shifter is electronic and not connected to the transmission by a lever like old cars . So it wont indicate a transmission problem
The shifter itself is a common problem area on these cars, as many get stuck in park due to a cheap plastic piece inside the shifter
The shifter itself is a common problem area on these cars, as many get stuck in park due to a cheap plastic piece inside the shifter

the odometer on this car has been rolled back - its was > 400000 but next day it was 100000

the mechanic tells me the transmission is rock solid,so i neednt worry - my current car has only 200000kms on it,now I'm not sure if I should trade in my car for a transmission that has run double.but everything else seems to be in top shape as my current car seems to have a problem with the steering bushing?it makes clunking sounds while coming back straight after turns[ I might be looking at a hefty bill if I dont trade the car in]
Last edited by HanSolo; Jan 2, 2013 at 12:38 AM.
if you mean the airmatics - I've got a new pair,brake pads new,engine 2004[less kms], no rust,coolant tank brand new,rubber hoses show no signs of deterioration - spark plugs new - and no system errors -
if something were to give, it would have failed by now,dont you think?
if something were to give, it would have failed by now,dont you think?
Last edited by HanSolo; Jan 2, 2013 at 03:01 AM.

is that possible you guys think?










The older it gets the more things start failing.
400000 km is a lot of miles on a car and there will surely be some failures to come. Soon. 
