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Need help with crankshaft position sensor

Old Mar 8, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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Need help with crankshaft position sensor

While I was driving home from work, my S500 died in the middle of the road. (How embarrassing, right?) It took a couple of tries to get it restarted, but I did make it home. We decided to change the fuel filter which did help some of the sluggishness we had been experiencing. A few days later, it happened again. After researching, we changed the Crankshaft Position Sensor. The car sounded better than when we bought it... until the next morning and it wouldn't start again. Thinking the CPS we bought was bad, I took it back and bought another one in a different brand. Installed and it would start and run... as long as it didn't get over 3500 RPMs. If the RPMs got too high, it would die. Also, if it starting getting hot; in idle or at a red light, it would die. Then, the horrid burning smell started and has not stopped.

So, now, we have a new CPS and the car runs, but will get hot, and the burning smell, which we think may be the alternator. I have ordered one which will be in on Monday.

Today, while messing around under the hood, my husband moved the wiring connector to the CPS and the car died. i restarted it and when he moved the wiring and connector again it died again.

Is it possible for the wiring/connector to be bad? and if so, how do you go about replacing it. I looked online and couldn't find one, then, called the dealer and they don't sell that as a part.
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 07:31 PM
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I have had the same problem with the wiring to other parts. It maybe at the connector. You will have to wiggle the wires around more to find it. You may need to remove the insulation around the group of wires to get to the crank sensor wires. The wire is probably broken inside the insulation. The wire may look good but broken inside. So you need to pull some on each wire to find the break. Once you find it I like to solder it and use heat shrink for the repair. Hope this helps.
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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An inexpensive code reader will show a faulty CPS code if that is the problem.
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 12:53 AM
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I agree with Wallyp before throwing anymore money at the problem I would have the codes checked.
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 11:42 AM
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I agree, better diagnosis first.
The description does not really point to CPS malfunction.
Running engine does not die just for bad CPS.
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 07:42 PM
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Running engine will die if the CPS is bad - thats a fact. When CPS fail, they typically suffer from thermal runaway, meaning they get hot and fail, then sometimes they work again when they cool down again. When they are in a hot failed state the engine will crank but not run. This is the typical condition that points to the CPS. There is no check engine code for a failed CPS. "Correction, there is no check engine light but there is a code"

Regarding the engine cutting out after the CPS was changed, it does sound like the connector is not fitted correctly, or there is problem with the pins or wiring near the connector. If you have a smell like that then you should be able to see some evidence at the connector and CPS connector wiring by now. If not then you have something else wrong as well. You need to find the source of the smell I guess.

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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 11:10 PM
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" There is no check engine code for a failed CPS."


On my 2003 S430, an inexpensive code reader clearly indicated a failed CPS.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 12:18 AM
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sorry Wally, i meant to type, there is no check engine light for a failed CPS. Or at least that's the way it use to be, maybe things have changed for newer models.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 08:31 AM
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Yep, no MIL (Check Engine Light) for the failed CPS, but it does set a code that most, if not all, OBD-II code readers will show - at least on my car. Thanks!
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 12:35 PM
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Thanks jnash correcting my error.
I've been with the misconception for a long time, that CPS monitors cranking thru starting the engine only.
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Old Mar 23, 2014 | 04:15 PM
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I had my CPS changed and it was fine.
The CPS went when I had water coming from drain to passenger footwell. I didn't know this was to do with it,
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 05:44 PM
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Yes those water drains on the W220 need to be free and clear, especially the passenger side otherwise water can get into the electronics too easily. There can be a massive amount of water collected ahead of the drain tube on a heavy downpour.
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