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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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2000 S500 sagging rear, struts? HELP!!!

Hi All, My mother in laws 2000 S500 is sagging in the rear to the point of unsafe driving. I believe the struts are bad but wondering can both go out at the same time? could it be that the pump is simply not inflating them? Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 10:06 PM
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Hi All, My mother in laws 2000 S500 is sagging in the rear to the point of unsafe driving. I believe the struts are bad but wondering can both go out at the same time? could it be that the pump is simply not inflating them? Thanks in advance for any help.


Need a little more info, is this ABC or airmatic, does the system not pump up at all or does it try and fail? if its ABC I cant help you there, Im trying to learn all about it now myself


If its airmatic and your pump wasn't working, all four corners would be down. I bet you have a leak either in one of your rear struts or valve block for the air system to channel air to each strut. So far everytime I have had a leak I was able to hear it. If the system is still pumping air listen for the leak. you can also do the soap test. Access to the rear airmatic strut is from the inside, there is a cover, spray and see if theres a leak, same for the valve block
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 10:58 AM
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Need a little more info, is this ABC or airmatic, does the system not pump up at all or does it try and fail? if its ABC I cant help you there, Im trying to learn all about it now myself


If its airmatic and your pump wasn't working, all four corners would be down. I bet you have a leak either in one of your rear struts or valve block for the air system to channel air to each strut. So far everytime I have had a leak I was able to hear it. If the system is still pumping air listen for the leak. you can also do the soap test. Access to the rear airmatic strut is from the inside, there is a cover, spray and see if theres a leak, same for the valve block
I'm pretty sure its airmatic, i'm getting a warning on the cluster about being to low. The pump is working as the front is at normal height. We replaced the fronts with Arnot not too long ago. From what you're saying i would bet theres a leak in the valve block. If it were leaking from one strut would both go down or just the one leaking? I will take a look and see if I can figure it out.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! If one back strut leaks the entire back can go down. I learned this one about 4-5 months ago. It was my back passenger side, I could here it leaking from the wheel well
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 11:42 AM
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Rather than guess diagnose a bit! First did this sagging occur overnight or over a period of time it got worse? Does this sagging occur at all times or only when parked for some time, like overnight? Does the car level itself out if you start it and let it run for 5-15 minutes?

It could be the lines running to/from the pumps and struts are failing, the actual air compressor is failing, or one or two of your rear struts are failing. Nothing really scary anyway you look at it. You can find a rebuilt pump or junkyard air compressor and bolt it in yourself (I think their is a DIY write up). Same thing with the struts.
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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 03:09 AM
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I have an 05 S500, and was wondering do you have to program your struts for the rear passenger side for airmatic?
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Originally Posted by vmystikilv
Need a little more info, is this ABC or airmatic, does the system not pump up at all or does it try and fail? if its ABC I cant help you there, Im trying to learn all about it now myself


If its airmatic and your pump wasn't working, all four corners would be down. I bet you have a leak either in one of your rear struts or valve block for the air system to channel air to each strut. So far everytime I have had a leak I was able to hear it. If the system is still pumping air listen for the leak. you can also do the soap test. Access to the rear airmatic strut is from the inside, there is a cover, spray and see if theres a leak, same for the valve block
I agree with vmystikilv on the valve block as a possible source for the rear struts going down. The fact that the fronts are up and stay up suggests that the pump is doing it's job. The valve block on top of the compressor regulates each corner separately hence the term "self leveling". This accounts for unbalanced loads inside the car and keeps the car level.

My suggestion is before throwing a bunch of parts at it ie, struts, valve block etc, have the car diagnosed on a Star/Das system. This will allow the technician to exercise the valve block and direct air to the rear struts to check for leaks. The dealer can do a diagnostic or a well equiped Indy with a star system can do it as well. My Indy has a Star system and only charges 2/3 of dealer hourly rate.

Finally, there is so much written about Airmatic in this forum as well as Benzworld to aid you. Airmatic problems will happen over the life of the car so it is good to be informed.

Bob
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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Can some please help i was heaeing a loud knocking noise coming from my air pump but it would eventually stop it raised up correctly but know i dont here anything and my rear is sagging on my tires
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