CNN Money: New Lexus sedan: fast, classy - and dull
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CNN Money: New Lexus sedan: fast, classy - and dull
here's a link to a web article from CNN Money:
New Lexus sedan: fast, classy - and dull
The ride is smooth, but the 2007 Lexus LS 460 is a little too quiet.
CNN: http://money.cnn.com/2006/12/01/auto...ion=2006120110
I've never driven one, so I can't say if this is accurate or not...
New Lexus sedan: fast, classy - and dull
The ride is smooth, but the 2007 Lexus LS 460 is a little too quiet.
CNN: http://money.cnn.com/2006/12/01/auto...ion=2006120110
I've never driven one, so I can't say if this is accurate or not...
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The LS460 is quit because the LS430 was louder.
The LS400 from 95' to around 2000' was way too quiet. They retuned the exhaust on the LS430 and made it louder (I like it a lot), I guess they went backwards (well, for us, but for the target audience...) with the LS460.
I've said it before, I'm waiting for the 600. Then I'll do the indepth comparisons.
The LS400 from 95' to around 2000' was way too quiet. They retuned the exhaust on the LS430 and made it louder (I like it a lot), I guess they went backwards (well, for us, but for the target audience...) with the LS460.
I've said it before, I'm waiting for the 600. Then I'll do the indepth comparisons.
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I don't know if it's just me but maybe it's just Lexus...all of their cars tend to be very quiet. I have an 06 GS430 and that thing is very, very quiet. I could tell that it would have a nice growl if I put an exhaust on it, but dad does most of the driving in it and he doesn't like anything more then stock...
There is definitely potential but I think they are made to drive quietly???
There is definitely potential but I think they are made to drive quietly???
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They are definitely made to drive quietly. And to some that's more important than loud sporty sounds -- that's why we have AMG/M. I think Lexus has a very comfortable ride and I think that's what appeals to the Lexus buyers, especially those for the LS-Series.
Yeah, the second LS-Series (95' - 00') was very, very quite and then I think they felt it needed to be louder, but then found most of their customers didn't like that new loud, so now they've reverted back. I think that's better (IMO), don't try and copy Mercedes, or BMW, Lexus has (whether you like to admit it or not) craved their own niche market and now belong in the high ranks of the automobile industry.
So those who dearly hate the LS - well it's here to stay!!
*That being said, I personally prefer BMW and Mercedes-Benz over the Lexus counter-parts (E-Class/5-Series to GS, C-Class/3-Series to IS, S-Class/7-Series to LS); however, I think the GS, IS, and LS are still great cars, and to me besides Mercedes and BMW, I think they're the best options out there.
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Yeah, the second LS-Series (95' - 00') was very, very quite and then I think they felt it needed to be louder, but then found most of their customers didn't like that new loud, so now they've reverted back. I think that's better (IMO), don't try and copy Mercedes, or BMW, Lexus has (whether you like to admit it or not) craved their own niche market and now belong in the high ranks of the automobile industry.
So those who dearly hate the LS - well it's here to stay!!
*That being said, I personally prefer BMW and Mercedes-Benz over the Lexus counter-parts (E-Class/5-Series to GS, C-Class/3-Series to IS, S-Class/7-Series to LS); however, I think the GS, IS, and LS are still great cars, and to me besides Mercedes and BMW, I think they're the best options out there.
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Don't get me wrong...I love Lexus' and I respect what they do as far as making their cars the way they do, but what I'm saying is that the potential is there to make it a very worthy opponent amongst the mercedes and bimmers in the world. That is all...
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So the S-Class can drive you down 5th Avenue from uptown to downtown in Manhattan (with the exception of traffic lights) and the LS can park itself, it's going to be crazy what these cars will do in the next 5 years.
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I'm not so sure Lexus wants that. They're doing very, very well targeting a market of upper-middle-class buyers who want a comfortable, quiet, reliable car who are not concerned with performance and handling. Why go after MB and BMW when they've already got their target market cornered?
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Do you really think some larger tires are going to stop it faster? Come on now. Its almost 30 feet behind the competition. If anything, larger tires will just increase rotational mass, which would likely increase braking disntances.
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IMO...the problem with Lexus is their styling tries not to offend anyone. Love it or hate it, MB and BMW's have some style. The Lexus sedan (LS) is too vanilla, whereas the IS and less so the GS have some flavor.
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The competition is rolling on summer rubber (BMW) and the S-class tire is 30 mm wider. Stickier/more rubber definitely decreases stopping distance.
What do you know, here is a quote from the C&D article
Blame goes mainly to the all-season tires and the car’s soft roll motions
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The M3 also has an entirely braking compound and rotor material than say a regular 330ci. I think there are too many factors here at play in order to get the car to stop better.
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There are very little differences between a 330ci and M3 (suspension and brake wise).. the marketing department may have you believe otherwise.
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