jbondox

it filters out the distronic plus band that before reporting it through the k40 system as mentioned above. yes it reduces the k band functionality but the other alternatives are

turn k band off
dont drive with a detector
dont speed

K40 RL360 has front and rear detection as for sides... that is the valentine 1 kool-aid they pass out on the internet. laser protection is front and rear if you add the defusers to the front and rear...

WEBSRFR

Is the laser diffuser actually a laser jammer? I think the best solution is some way to jam the radar and laser signals but to be notified of it right away when a threat is jammed so you can slow down, preferably discretely without using brakes, and then turning off your countermeasures so they can clock you at a lower speed. Now this would work if you were going 20-30 mph over the limit as you can shave off that speed quickly but I think all bets are off if you are driving 100 on a 55 zone as jamming or not, they will have a pretty good idea of your speed.

Now what someone really needs to build is a radar screen that shows on a map where all the patrol cars are in real time and cross reference that database with Trapster I bet using the RF emissions of a patrol car for the police radio, it is possible to figure out where they are with the right technology.

KeepRtPassLeft

The k40 laser diffuser does not work well. Technically laser diffusers and laser shifters are laser jammers. The best laser jammers are standalone systems. The best system currently available is the Laser Interceptor.

Radar jamming is illegal in the US.

jbondox

Escort has a live system but requires other users to be using it also

jbondox

and the LI system is legal? paleeze! it says if you get pulled over to lie about it and say it is a parking feature.

KeepRtPassLeft

The same laws apply to the Laser Interceptor laser jammers as to the K40 Laser Diffusers. They both function the same way. They both receive a the pulses of a LIDAR gun and return pulses that attempt to confuse the LIDAR gun. So anywhere the Laser Interceptor is illegal, the K40 laser diffusers are illegal. The difference with Laser Interceptor and K40 is that Laser Interceptor educates their customers and provides excellent customer service to help prevent their customers from receiving any kind of ticket, K40 provides great marketing materials to sell more K40s.

Yes, LI does give options and recommendations if their customers should find themselves in a state that has made laser jammers illegal, but then again speeding illegal is illegal too.

I guess when a k40 user gets pulled over, it isn't because of the K40's jamming ability, it is because the police officer has obtained the k40's speed, so there is no need to look for a laser jammer on the vehicle.

jbondox

I think you are misinformed. Actually I know you are. You might want to research a wee bit more the LI product and the other 2 i mentioned.

Like i said in the other posts "I am not anyone's cheerleader" but i will call BS where I see it...

KeepRtPassLeft

Jim, it is obvious that I have done my research. You, on the other hand present no additional information. So I call BS on you. Share your information. I expect it will be left in the fields as fertilizer.

A favorite quote of mine from when I was a teenager is, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with BS."

Sorry, you can't dazzle us.

jbondox

paleeze.... how does the escort and K40 jam? and how does the LI jam? and why does LI say to tell them it is for parking when they get pulled over?

as for quotes, I like Einstein's "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be."

KeepRtPassLeft

Escort, K40 and Blinder Mx7 use LEDs while Laser Interceptor, and the ALG9 (AntiLaser) use laser diodes. No big secret there, Jim. FYI, Blinder will shortly be introducing a laser diode laser jammer.

The difference when someone gets pulled over when using a Laser Interceptor, and when someone gets pulled over with a K40 is the Laser Interceptor user gets pulled over because the officer thinks he was jammed, the K40 user gets pulled over for speeding.

It's evident that you don't understand how K40 laser diffusers, Escort ZR4s, Laser Interceptor or any other laser jammer works. If you do, then take the time to educate the members of this forum. I really don't expect an answer from you, because it takes a bit more than a high school eduction to explain it sufficiently.

jbondox

UNCLE!

Mr.Radarguy

Keeprt,

Man you are all over this forum bashing everyone except L1 hmmm...... and you are new to this forum talking down to people who are very well respected saying that they are not educated and how if they did K40 they are idiots. I copied this from yet another post in another thread about radars.

Let's go to the video!

http://youtu.be/UfV3VJll9yI

now you posted more videos but I just took one and in this post you yet again bashed K40 and touted L1 except you did one thing ......... you used a video that so called " REAL PROFESSIONALS " field tested the K40 laser jammer. Great video the only thing is that defuser used is over a decade old before 2006 and you recently posted the video stating K40 sucks ....... People like you do things and state things with an intent knowing all of this you have lost all creditability with me using videos that test 10 year old product stating it doesnt work.

KeepRtPassLeft

Mr.radarguy, one of the problems with K40 and their dealers, is when asked to attend a testing session, they always refuse. You can see where I have offered to have jbondex attend a testing meet by his shop and there is no acceptance. Testing his and others installations helps to educate the installers, by showing them the difference a few inches, slight changes in horizonal and/ verticle angulation can make in the performance of an installation. Additionally, it can show people who sell laser jammers the different levels of protection offered by each laser jammer model.

When I participate in a meet, we let those who attend have an opportunity to shoot the various LIDAR guns, and witness the testing done. We also discuss the various advantages and disadvantages in the various countermeasures commercially available.

There are no perfect radar detectors or perfect laser jammers, but there are some that generally perform well and those that generally perform poorly.

KeepRtPassLeft

Mr.radarguy, one of the problems with K40 and their dealers, is when asked to attend a testing session, they always refuse. You can see where I have offered to have jbondex attend a testing meet by his shop and there is no acceptance. Testing his and others installations helps to educate the installers, by showing them the difference a few inches, slight changes in horizonal and/ verticle angulation can make in the performance of an installation. Additionally, it can show people who sell laser jammers the different levels of protection offered by each laser jammer model.

When I participate in a meet, we let those who attend have an opportunity to shoot the various LIDAR guns, and witness the testing done. We also discuss the various advantages and disadvantages in the various countermeasures commercially available.

There are no perfect radar detectors or perfect laser jammers, but there are some that generally perform well and those that generally perform poorly.

Mr.Radarguy

Keeprt,

Who are you? you have not proven to have any professional experience all you have done is bash K40 and tout Escort and L1 while posting videos of 10 year old K40 jammer's against current guns to prove that K40 doesnt work. To me you lost all creditability. You know why all K40 dealer's dont agree with you because they already know it works. It seems to me you have a agenda considering you are very new to this website and so far you have posted like 20-30 times most of which have been trying to tout radar and laser jammer's while bashing your , I mean there competition. It's time for you to move on we get it you prefer the Escort and L1 great not stop trying to sell us ......

KeepRtPassLeft

https://mbworld.org/forums/audio-ele...tectors-3.html

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JJKCMO

FWIW, our CTS-V wagon has a K40 built in - the best they offered in 2014. I bought it from a guy who owned a installation shop and he did a great installation, so I know it was done well. I also have a V1 for each car and I run them both if I'm on a road trip. I've also used the high end Escorts.

I find that the V1 consistently alerts to the serious threats (Ka and laser) quicker than the K40, perhaps 10-25% quicker. On rural highways, the V1 will often alert over a mile before I get to the cop! I attribute this to the fact that the V1 mounts higher up than the sensors on the K40 which are behind the bumper cover. I use a really cool 12 way adjustable aluminum mount that will adjust around any rearview mirror to mount it in a place where it cannot be seen except by the driver and it blends into the mirror if looking from the front. I run the power wire through the headliner and A-pillar, so there are no wires hanging and the cigarette lighter remains unused. I also use the V1 app to customize alerts which is nice for eliminating specific frequencies (down to 3 decimals) that other cars put out.

I do not know if the K40's laser shifters (I forgot the term) work - I haven't been pulled over (fingers crossed). Frankly, laser jamming or shifting seems a bit dubious.

With that said, the K40 is generally alerting soon enough to throw out the anchor prior to seeing a cop and I really like the hidden installation. The remote is easy to use and there are menus available through the remote to customize the alerts which is nice if you're wanting to go that route.

If flexibility, cost, and resale are of no concern, I think the K40 is the better option. You'll pay more up front for the K40 and you won't recover anything when you sell the car. You also can't move it to another car like you can with the V1. If those are concerns, folks will prefer the V1.

BOTUS

in the UK the only device worth trying to get you with is a laser…. these can do up to 2.5 miles... if the laser detects ANY interruption / jamming, it takes a copy of the reg plate... plod come round at their leisure and if they find any equipment that can jam the signal, you get charged with perverting the course of justice.... has a max sentence of 10 years prison and I thought they took the car way and squashed it

you got the odd story years back where this happened to people, seems to do the trick as few use this kit here.... a better way is average distance cameras... between this point and that u went too fast... why do you think they want your phone connected up... trap yourself. Soon enough google maps will grass you up, tomtom already did it years ago took the data of motorcyclist favorite roads and asked the police to lock them up....

but the manufacturers fit this to current cars anyway.....

DaleB

The joys of living in a quasi-totalitarian surveillance society, I suppose.

I keep thinking about getting something for our longer road trips, which is the primary use for the Rocket Sled. I dunno, though, they are pricey little beggars. We did 3K miles in the Southwest averaging 85-ish with no issues, including a few incidents of passing by highway patrol cars going the other way. Maybe they're just more tolerant of speed down that way. The next trip will be through the Midwest up into Minnesota and possibly Wisconsin, they tend to be a little more uptight about it there.

BOTUS

they have a motoring organisation in Germany - first time ever its stopped blanket opposition of speed limits on certain unlimited sections of autobahn - environmental concern winning through

its a shame - these cars drive well once you get above 120mph the whole thing starts to drive and behave correctly - its a total transformation
its so refreshing to tootle about at 120 to 130mph for hours on end just enjoying the game managing the elasticity needed to hit the gaps rolling on and off the throttle
then you get to <70 and wonder why your needlessly restricted to standing stationary.

JJKCMO

This is very doable throughout the US when traffic isn't heavy. Just have a good radar detector, the Waze app open and visible, and be alert. An alert passenger is also rather helpful.

DaleB

Especially if said passenger is using gyro stabilized binoculars and a radio... just sayin'.

Personally, I don't find much over 100 to be an enjoyable drive in the US. Too much stress worrying about police and idiot drivers doing stupid things. Of course, it could be argued that if you're doing 100+ in the US, you're the idiot driver doing stupid things. It's one thing to drive in the left lane with a high speed differential in Germany or other places where it's expected and people usually tend to watch out for fast movers before changing lanes. It's quite another to do it in the US, where people most certainly do not expect overtaking vehicles with a 30-40-50 MPH closure rate., and they often don't check their mirrors as well as they should.

Exceptions are, of course, deserted or very low traffic highways. We did our 3K mile road trip last fall and purposely avoided Interstates when we could. On the way back, the stretch from Colorado Springs to Brush along US 24 and US 71 was just wonderful... we were really able to let the old girl run.

I'd feel fine doing 200-plus kph on the Autobahn, maybe. Right now it looks like gasoline prices are pretty reasonable compared to the last time I was there, when it was over $7 a gallon for regular. I was OK with driving some nondescript little thing that could barely get out of its own way. I think I had it up to 120... kph, not mph.

BOTUS

no that's the issue in Europe, people are either brain dead or incredibly selfish..... you don't get this in the UK but around France, Belgium, NL and north east Germany its very dangerous

you can be doing 140mpg and a some git doing 70mph will move the indicator stalk and the steering wheel at the same time just pulling out …. big braking moments all the time..... ABS, molten discs and a *** paper between yours and their bumpers every 3 miles
the sales of discs and pads must be extraordinary

JJKCMO

I only run high speeds when the road is clear and the weather is cooperating, which is often in much of the US outside of major urban areas. 3 buddies and I took the V-Wagon from KC to Ft. Stewart, GA last year to surprise a buddy getting ready for his 4th deployment. I thought they'd be timid in the car, but I was completely surprised - every one of them topped 130 when the conditions allowed - we actually averaged 106 for 6 hours at one point (not including a fuel stop) which is really a crazy number. We were traveling on a Sunday morning and that helps a lot - on a lot of stretches there was hardly any traffic at all.

The cannonball run guys are averaging 130, IIRC, which is just insane because they include fuel stops in that calculation.

BOTUS

forget he's trying to demo the night vision (its no use, as you can't use safely unless a passenger is watching it for you)
but it does show a very typical just pull out attitude.... so you can get your bearings 140kph is 90mph and 240kph is 149mph ( yes he's an idiot but not as big as the one pulling out at 1 min 25 seconds)