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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Question S Class LWB?

Quick question. I see 750iL's all over the place, and A8 4.2L's but am unsure as to whether the W221 S Class can be had in LWB form or if they have released just one version?
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
Quick question. I see 750iL's all over the place, and A8 4.2L's but am unsure as to whether the W221 S Class can be had in LWB form or if they have released just one version?
There are two versions, but all models currently imported into the US are LWB. There is no external model designation change.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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My cousin in India just purchased an S350 MY07 and he said he got the short-wheels base since it was cheaper. He ended up paying US$200,000 for the car.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Both Short and Long wheel base versions are available.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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My cousin in India just purchased an S350 MY07 and he said he got the short-wheels base since it was cheaper. He ended up paying US$200,000 for the car.
Well, see the S-class price list for Denmark (a small country in Western Europe if you did not know):
http://www.mercedes-benz.dk/personbi..._prisliste.pdf

The S350 SWB base price is 460.000 Danish krone, the sales price is 1.541.000 krone. That equals approximately US$283.000, basic car.

I believe Denmark has by far the highest car tax in Western Europe, most European countries do not have car tax at all but a yearly fee is common, usually dependent on the emissions.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Do I interpret this correctly: an S65 is $850,000? I hope it's fully equipped.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Do I interpret this correctly: an S65 is $850,000? I hope it's fully equipped.
whoover, if you would like to purchase an S65 for $850,000, I will personally come and sell you the car wherever you are located. I will even throw in my house for free.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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whoover, if you would like to purchase an S65 for $850,000, I will personally come and sell you the car wherever you are located. I will even throw in my house for free.
Well, in order to compensate things, the salaries in Europe are lower than in the US, and the income tax is multiple times higher, Denmark again being one of the best.

They do have social security that outperforms US by a similar factor, I don't want to speculate which option is better.

You can take you car to Denmark and sell it by $850.000, but you have to pay at least 2/3 of tax from that value first. Doesn't make a big profit after all.
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
Quick question. I see 750iL's all over the place, and A8 4.2L's but am unsure as to whether the W221 S Class can be had in LWB form or if they have released just one version?
Every S550 in the US is LWB, the SWB is not imported here...
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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the fact that they make a SWB is so weird.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Most other countries have far smaller roads compared to US. SWB's are selling good outside US actually.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by whoover
There are two versions, but all models currently imported into the US are LWB. There is no external model designation change.
Thanks for the clarification. I'd been wondering for weeks. Make sense not to offer the SWB over here.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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Canada will sell a SWB S450 4-matic this year.

I personally would prefer a SWB as I rarely have anyone in the back seat and it is easier to drive and park in city congestion. I presume that the 450 gets better mileage also, which should be a consideration for MBUSA.

I also would consider an R class if we could get the SWB in the US. This car actually looks more in proportion in the shorter version.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
Thanks for the clarification. I'd been wondering for weeks. Make sense not to offer the SWB over here.
Really? I dont like the S class SWB. I'd just get an E class.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Although E class is nice, It doesn't come close to the amenities of S. SWB or LWB S class is the flagship.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Although E class is nice, It doesn't come close to the amenities of S. SWB or LWB S class is the flagship.
True, but SWB looks to "stubby" for me. Just the proportions are off to me...
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Apparently, some car manufacturers (Audi, BMW) have made LWB versions of "smaller" cars, like a LWB 5 Series and A6L. I believe most of these are sold in Asia, where there are people who couldn't afford to purchase an S-class or its competitors but still has a driver due to the cheap labour costs; therefore, they prefer to be in the back seats even in a 5-Series or A6. I believe it's a possibilty that a LWB E-class (only sold in Asia of course) will be in the future.

I also saw a limo version of the E class in Hong Kong, it has 3 rows of doors and seat and looked frankly more like a bus than a limo.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 02:03 AM
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In addition to the advantage in leg room for the long version, the short wheel base S-Class doesn't have:
1. Panoramic roof option.
2. Business table option.
As far as I know AMG versions come as long wheel base models only.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by obaidan
As far as I know AMG versions come as long wheel base models only.
No, S63AMG is available as a SWB model in Germany and most European countries.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 06:18 AM
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The only S that doesn't come in SWB anywhere is the S600 I believe.

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Germancar1
The only S that doesn't come in SWB anywhere is the S600 I believe.

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The current status looks like the following models were available as SWB:

320 CDI
420 CDI
280
350
450
500/550
63 AMG
320 CDI 4matic
350 4matic
450 4matic
500 4matic

If I got it right, S600 and S65AMG are not available as SWB.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Maybe in Europe S63 LWB is available. In Middle East, the SWB comes on S280 only where all other models such as S350, 500, 600, 63 and 65 are LWB versions.

The SWB is not bad at all since it has almost every option available for the higher end models (except for engine performance and related accessories). For me the option I can't give up now since I tried it is the panoramic roof, what a pleasing feature both internally and visually.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 01:51 AM
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In the UK only the S600 and S65AMG are available as LWB only.

I have the SWB, which is by far the most popular in the UK. Even that is much longer than most parking spaces. Most supermarkets here lay out parking spaces about the length of a C class. And so do most towns when parking bays are marked on the road.

But quite honestly. I find ample room in the back and I am 6ft. Good deal more than the E class. Suits me just fine.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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It is an S if you get it in 3 pieces it will still look beautiful. I saw few people painting the roof of their SWB glossy black and honestly can't tell the difference from panoramic roof specially from distance.

Enjoy it.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Over here in germany it's such a question of money! The LWB is about 10.000 € more expensive, then the SWB! Nevertheless the LWB looks a lot better and the comfort it adds on the rear seats is just great.
Diesel Benz is completely right - every model (except S 600 and S 65 AMG) are avaible as SWB and LWB (here in germany).
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