Musikmann

Hello to all friends,

A friend of mine has a 2006 S350 that I would call a short wheel base. I asked the W220 guys on another forum and nobody replied. I think I know that they were only produced during the 2006 model year, and use the same 3.7L 241HP engine as MB did for a couple of years in the ML350. The main reason I'm asking is that there is one for sale nearby and I'd like to know some more about these. Lastly, the S350 is listed among this subforum's models.

Thanks in advance,

Mm

LETO

Hope this helps:

http://www.mbusa.com/overview/2006/S...AccClassCode=S

Germancar1

You've basically answered your own question. 2006 model year only, same V6 from the previous ML350 and a SWB only for the U.S. It was a sales filler model to keep W220 sales going in the last model year. The leases offered on them when new were unbelievably cheap.

M

Musikmann

Many thanks to LETO and Germancar1. But shouldn't this be listed as a W220?

AsianML

Keep in mind the forum isn't just for the U.S. We're worldwide.

Good luck with the search for the S350!

Diesel Benz

Yes there is an S350 model on the W221 body too. This is using the 272.965 engine producing 200 kW/272 PS power, obviously not on sale in the US.

There even is an S280 for the W221 body. Actually two different models, these are using the 272.946 engine. The S280 is not available even in Europe except for a few countries.

The W220 S350 appears to use a 112.972 engine, quite a different car then. I didn't know this has been on sale in the US, even for a short period of time.

iguess

yea in America, big car big engines. in Asia, majority of S classes are 350's the cars are and alot of the E classes are 240's. It could be due to the fact that the costs there are tremendous, or that no one really cares about "performance"

AsianML

Well, it's not like you could even use the performance at all of even a 550 model.

Musikmann

Thanks also to AsianML, Diesel Benz and Iguess!

Acez

we have a locally assembled S-class using 3.0 litre v6 here in malaysia. named as the S300.

Diesel Benz

Can you figure out the accurate body model nomination for this car. None of the MB literature show an S300 model (But I know this label exists, the S300 label at the trunk is part number A2218170315).

I'm pretty sure the car is a 221.054 or 221.154 model actually.

ps2

Do the Malaysian assembled S300's came with vacuum assist doors, park sensor, panoramic and such? The reason I ask is because the Indonesian assembled ones don't come with those goodies...

WingFlex

Yes the S300L CKD in Malaysia does come with power soft close doors, Parktronic but no Panaroma Sunroof. I think panoroofs are useless in tropical countries anyway. Heck, for personal preference, I'd even delete the sunroof option if I could. S300L in Malaysia, however, does not come with keyless-go like the S350L CKD does. In fact, S350L CKD in SE and SEL trim level are spec'd similar (if not identical) to CBU units.

Incendiary

We have an S350. It's nice. I wouldn't mind more power, but for most every day driving, it's plenty. Length is 198", 5" shorter than the LWB models. Everything else is the same. Oh yeah, RWD only.

Good luck with the search!

EDIT: Just wanted to add that leg room in the back of the S350 is about the same as in the W211. And one annoying thing about the limited edition, end-of-model-life run is that all-season floor mats for the rears never seemed to have been shipped to the US (or so my local dealer said). So if you order all-season mats, the rear mats are about 5 inches too long.

Incendiary

Hey, what's a V221? Is it a SWB W221?

Musikmann

Yep, that is a question in my mind too (W220 or W221). Maybe MB should call it a W220.5 or something similar.

lontong

yap... but the S280 now change to S300L... i think 300 and 350 only in asia

iguess

for a lil info, go to MBUSA.com and choose s550. Select 16 year overview from the drop menu at the top of the screen, and choose 2006. first car on the list will be the s350. I honestly think if brought over the new body s350's over to the US, sales would jump for the S class. However, sales of the 550 would be down the drain.

Acez

http://www.mercedes-benz.com.my/cont..._new_s300.html

here's the article regarding the S300 L for those who are interested. taken directly from MB malaysia.

Kar don

V221 is a LWB S-class, only the V221 is available in the USA

W221 is a SWB S-class.

The R-class is a W/V 251 because it is short and long WB. Again only V251 for USA.

Incendiary

Oh. So was the previous gen W220 = SWB and V220 = LWB also? And three gens ago, W126 = SWB and V126 = LWB? Or is this new nomenclature starting with this generation?

Kar don

this is not new nomenclature.... MBWorld just hasn't distinguished the difference before.

Yes, the only W220 in the USA was the 2006 S350, the rest were V220.

Diesel Benz

They actually do almost use this, on the W/V221 body, all LWB cars are 221.1xx while SWB models are 221.0xx.

mklasse

I wonder if you can order them as factory options. It seems the Indonesian S350 CKD is equipped with power close doors, so it should be no problem adding them as optional feature to S300.
It seems MB Indonesia want to sell what they imported/manufactured already, so when a customer wants a certain option(s) ordered, they will make it hard for you (ie. long delays, and various other reasons) and you will be "forced" to get one that already sitting in their storage.
I think Indonesia is pretty bad (if not worst) for vehicle individualization. Out there, even Toyota buyers can custom order their Camry, here? Mercedes customer is still having a hard time ordering options. Even the exterior and interior color combination is sometimes fixed, e.g if you choose color A, then you'd get beige int, if you choose color B, then you'd get black int.. and they would come up with a bunch of BS why you can't have color A with black interior Well, if you customize your car in MBUSA, maybe some ext colors can't be matched with certain interior colors, but you can still have a choice..

F_Porsche

woow, that is kind of sad to hear. Glad I am living in the home country of our beloved cars and we can get every possible option. the engine and colour range is also much wider! If you add AMG and designo......

its a dream! sad I can't choose just yet.