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11-24-2009, 07:03 AM
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11-24-2009, 10:50 AM
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Such is human nature. Embrace change. 
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Look what all the change the dark guy brings, unfortunately change is all we will have left in our bank accounts when his term is up.
PS: The last time I looked while driving I couldn't see my own rear or front lights no matter how much I stretched. The twenty grand I "saved" by buying my 09 can go towards health care for so many in 4 -5 years.
Lucky me
[/QUOTE]Look what all the change the dark guy brings, unfortunately change is all we will have left in our bank accounts when his term is up.
PS: The last time I looked while driving I couldn't see my own rear or front lights no matter how much I stretched. The twenty grand I "saved" by buying my 09 can go towards health care for so many in 4 -5 years.
Lucky me
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11-24-2009, 01:21 PM
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For the record.... the old taillamps, brakelamps and center stop light are LED.
I really don't understand why anyone would want to change to the refreshed lights. The pre MY10 are LEDs, the housing is more complex, the bands painted to match the body color makes them look like an integrated part of the car. The new ones are big red pieces of plastic. The other day I parked near a MY10 S class and took a good look at them. I asked my wife what she thought and she said "I think they make the car look like a cheap Japanese car". I didn't tell her some people were actually paying a lot of money to convert to them. If you ask me, the new lights were a cost saving measure and people should be looking to convert to the old ones, not the new.
I really don't understand why anyone would want to change to the refreshed lights. The pre MY10 are LEDs, the housing is more complex, the bands painted to match the body color makes them look like an integrated part of the car. The new ones are big red pieces of plastic. The other day I parked near a MY10 S class and took a good look at them. I asked my wife what she thought and she said "I think they make the car look like a cheap Japanese car". I didn't tell her some people were actually paying a lot of money to convert to them. If you ask me, the new lights were a cost saving measure and people should be looking to convert to the old ones, not the new.
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11-25-2009, 01:35 AM
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Please keep that crap on the off-topic sub-forum.Anyway,
I agree with this.
11-27-2009, 03:44 AM
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You guys don't like it coz you don't own them. In a year or two, everyone on this thread will switch over to the newer facelifted model, then all of you will gush over how great/nice/fantastic/beautiful/ground-breaking the new lights are.
Such is human nature. Embrace change.
Such is human nature. Embrace change.
LED's have many advantages for lighting (faster response, lower power consumption, color, etc), and are normally a huge upgrade. However, I don't like the way the LED strips are designed on the new MB's and Audis. I think seeing the individual LED's looks cheap and tacky. I don't really like the LED turn signal mirrors for the same reason.
IMO, it would look a lot better if the LED's shone onto a reflector. That way, you'd get a contiguous bar of pure white light instead of individual dots.
IMO, it would look a lot better if the LED's shone onto a reflector. That way, you'd get a contiguous bar of pure white light instead of individual dots.
For the record.... the old taillamps, brakelamps and center stop light are LED.
I really don't understand why anyone would want to change to the refreshed lights. The pre MY10 are LEDs, the housing is more complex, the bands painted to match the body color makes them look like an integrated part of the car. The new ones are big red pieces of plastic. The other day I parked near a MY10 S class and took a good look at them. I asked my wife what she thought and she said "I think they make the car look like a cheap Japanese car". I didn't tell her some people were actually paying a lot of money to convert to them. If you ask me, the new lights were a cost saving measure and people should be looking to convert to the old ones, not the new.
I really don't understand why anyone would want to change to the refreshed lights. The pre MY10 are LEDs, the housing is more complex, the bands painted to match the body color makes them look like an integrated part of the car. The new ones are big red pieces of plastic. The other day I parked near a MY10 S class and took a good look at them. I asked my wife what she thought and she said "I think they make the car look like a cheap Japanese car". I didn't tell her some people were actually paying a lot of money to convert to them. If you ask me, the new lights were a cost saving measure and people should be looking to convert to the old ones, not the new.
And I agree with you, the new tail lights make the new 2010 S-Class look more like a "cheap" Japanese car from the back... too bad.
11-27-2009, 09:01 PM
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here is mine after an update on the rear lights. the S550s before facelift are starting to show their age - gotta get with the times boys, and drop the taillights with the ugly painted stripes! just kidding, each to their own, folks like different things.
If there any takers out there with 2010 S550 that would like to "downgrade" to the old striped lights, I got two for sale!!! I doubt any one will, but what the hell!
just kidding, each to their own, folks like different things. If there any takers out there with 2010 S550 that would like to "downgrade" to the old striped lights, I got two for sale!!! I doubt any one will, but what the hell!
11-27-2009, 10:24 PM
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here is mine after an update on the rear lights. the S550s before facelift are starting to show their age - gotta get with the times boys, and drop the taillights with the ugly painted stripes! just kidding, each to their own, folks like different things.
If there any takers out there with 2010 S550 that would like to "downgrade" to the old striped lights, I got two for sale!!! I doubt any one will, but what the hell!
just kidding, each to their own, folks like different things. If there any takers out there with 2010 S550 that would like to "downgrade" to the old striped lights, I got two for sale!!! I doubt any one will, but what the hell!
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11-28-2009, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lungs414
Originally Posted by jtanoyo1
Such is human nature. Embrace change.
PS: The last time I looked while driving I couldn't see my own rear or front lights no matter how much I stretched. The twenty grand I "saved" by buying my 09 can go towards health care for so many in 4 -5 years.
Lucky me
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11-30-2009, 11:57 AM
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I think the LED strips on the Audi's look very cheap. They had the cool "wow" factor when they first came out on the R8, but the first time I saw them in my rear view on the A4, I was thrown off. The individual glow of each LED really does cheapen the look. I agree with previous posts... make a reflector that makes it look like one continuous strip. (never mind the other safety benefits of LEDs. LOL). Must say I'm not feeling the new LED accents on the 2010 models. But to each their own.
12-07-2009, 01:57 PM
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here is mine after an update on the rear lights. the S550s before facelift are starting to show their age - gotta get with the times boys, and drop the taillights with the ugly painted stripes! just kidding, each to their own, folks like different things.
If there any takers out there with 2010 S550 that would like to "downgrade" to the old striped lights, I got two for sale!!! I doubt any one will, but what the hell!
just kidding, each to their own, folks like different things. If there any takers out there with 2010 S550 that would like to "downgrade" to the old striped lights, I got two for sale!!! I doubt any one will, but what the hell!
Off topic, but quick question concerning your wheels. How big are the lips and do you have any issues with them rubbing?
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12-07-2009, 03:50 PM
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Let me measure exactly - I'll get back to you. I've seen rubbing in the front when I crank the wheel all the way into a driveway, there is no way to really avoid that, so you need to roll two spots on the fender. Not a big deal.
In the rear, once again there are two spots that need to be rolled. If you don't - you risk pulling back the sheetmetal and possibly cracking the paint. I'll try to take some pics and post them when I get a chance.
In the rear, once again there are two spots that need to be rolled. If you don't - you risk pulling back the sheetmetal and possibly cracking the paint. I'll try to take some pics and post them when I get a chance.
12-07-2009, 05:26 PM
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Thanks, for the response. I as far as mine go, the rear has no issues. However with the front, I could lower it as much as I wanted because it did rub slightly when I hit dips or bumps. My biggest issue is driving the crappy roads here in New Jersey and New York. My current wheels have 2.5 inch lip on the front rims and 4 inches on the rear. I'm thinking about changing my wheels and getting some with a larger lip (front 3.5-4 inches and rear 4.5 -6 inches) so I'm trying to get a comparision of what type of experience other people are having.
Thanks again,
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Thanks again,
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12-07-2009, 07:55 PM
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You know, lip measurements are relative. If can get a lot more lip if you curve your wheel centers inwards from the wheel hub to the area where the lip and the back rim bolts up on a 3 piece wheel. Example of that can be see on BWM 7 series cars with say 7" lips. You can achieve the same overall wheel/tire width with a 4" lip, but the wheel centered are convex, not concave.
So you should be able to get a larger lip without worrying about any rubbing since your tire placement would not change, considered the wheel center is set up correctly. Now, whether the centers will continue to look good if they are becoming more convex is something you have to be concerned about.
So you should be able to get a larger lip without worrying about any rubbing since your tire placement would not change, considered the wheel center is set up correctly. Now, whether the centers will continue to look good if they are becoming more convex is something you have to be concerned about.
Thanks, for the response. I as far as mine go, the rear has no issues. However with the front, I could lower it as much as I wanted because it did rub slightly when I hit dips or bumps. My biggest issue is driving the crappy roads here in New Jersey and New York. My current wheels have 2.5 inch lip on the front rims and 4 inches on the rear. I'm thinking about changing my wheels and getting some with a larger lip (front 3.5-4 inches and rear 4.5 -6 inches) so I'm trying to get a comparision of what type of experience other people are having.
Thanks again,
Tony
Thanks again,
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12-07-2009, 08:23 PM
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Yeah, i know. Right now the wheels I have are 2-piece 22" Symbolic Concave 2Tone wheels, I'm currently looking at the Vossen VF082s, or the new concave wheels their coming out with or the D2Forged Concave CV2s or VS4s. I do like the 3 piece wheels, but in New Jersey the road are not forgiving. Below is a picture of my 750Li, it had 3-piece 22" Asanti Af128s with 3" front and 6" rear lips and I didn't have any issues with rubbing at all. I wish the S550 would accommodate the wider wheels the same way.
12-08-2009, 12:59 AM
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I always drive fully lit-up, even in CA sun...to maximize my active safety
What one doesn't fully appreciate until see live another new S/CL missling along a fast fwy (or even in slow city traffic) and lit-up is how valuable are powerful/smart lighting systems at any speed or in any weather or day/nt
Damn impressive active safety tech, esp if one realizes how primitive is Porsche's or Ferrari's latest lighting tech when observed on a fast fwy (or mtn twisties) in comparable weather/day/nt situations
What one doesn't fully appreciate until see live another new S/CL missling along a fast fwy (or even in slow city traffic) and lit-up is how valuable are powerful/smart lighting systems at any speed or in any weather or day/nt
Damn impressive active safety tech, esp if one realizes how primitive is Porsche's or Ferrari's latest lighting tech when observed on a fast fwy (or mtn twisties) in comparable weather/day/nt situations
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S550 can't eat the lip the 750 does - check out the 750 at my house; same Asanti wheel as you, but with a 7" lip (one-off):
Yeah, i know. Right now the wheels I have are 2-piece 22" Symbolic Concave 2Tone wheels, I'm currently looking at the Vossen VF082s, or the new concave wheels their coming out with or the D2Forged Concave CV2s or VS4s. I do like the 3 piece wheels, but in New Jersey the road are not forgiving. Below is a picture of my 750Li, it had 3-piece 22" Asanti Af128s with 3" front and 6" rear lips and I didn't have any issues with rubbing at all. I wish the S550 would accommodate the wider wheels the same way.
