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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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What is everyone leasing for?

Looking to lease a new 2010 S 550 4matic loaded with AMG package. My recent quote was 36 months, $4k down and $1600/month. It is a 15k miles/year lease.

What are the best deals on 2010 leases right now?

Thanks for the help!

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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 12:52 AM
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There is absolutely no reason to lease ever. I just got burned for turning my lease in. I went over the miles, and even though my car was Perfect, I still got a couple thousand dollars in physical damages before I was hit with the mileage. I even bought new tires and replaced a cell phone sized crack in the windshield.

My grand total was $6900 to give it back. WTF

I lost and I will never lease again.
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 02:02 AM
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I agree about leasing - though to be fair to "brownbomber" that was not the question he asked.

Since I don't lease, I can't answer the question.

But I can say that leasing is like buying the "new half" of the car and giving back the "old half" to the dealer. No matter what you are paying per month, don't expect to get that new half at a bargain.
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 06:00 AM
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I've glanced at lease takeover scenarios before which are good since you nearly completely cut out the down payment, and based on the numbers I saw, that lease seems like a good deal.

Especially considering its loaded.
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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I don't know what the current lease numbers are, but if you check leasetrader you should be able to see what some people are paying.

Leasing is not always a bad idea. It depends on the numbers. If you are a person who holds a car for ten years or puts on a lot of miles then yes leasing is bad. But if you get a new car every few years then the math might make sense. It depends on how aggressively priced the lease is. In a high tax state like NY or CA leasing does get the added benefit of paying tax on only the lease payment and not the residual. I have leased a dozen vehicles and never had them come back to me with one issue (even though some had visible damage). I own all of my vehicles now, but I will certainly lease again...
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KyleE
Looking to lease a new 2010 S 550 4matic loaded with AMG package. My recent quote was 36 months, $4k down and $1600/month. It is a 15k miles/year lease.

What are the best deals on 2010 leases right now?

Thanks for the help!

Kyle
long story short. I think its a good deal. enjoy the car man.
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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I have a 2008 4MATIC with AMG that I pay $1700/mo for. Nothing down and 15K/year (which I have exceeded). I will probably buy the car when it comes off lease (so I should have bought it from the beginning.)
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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It is easy to calculate what you should be paying. you need to know the residual and money factor, which set each month by MB financial in the first week of each month. It changes based upon what corporate wants to push for a given month....The
goal is the lease from the best agreed capitalized cost (just like purchasing... if the car is 100k try to lease from an agreed price of 92 etc..). When you lease you are paying the depreciation (calculated by residual) plus the moneyfactor, which is interest. S classes do not lease well. MB financial always sets residuals low and MF (interest rate) high.....BMWs lease much better as they do not depreciate as quickly and they generally have more favorable money factors. BMW also gives you options with excess mileage which MB does not offer....If you know how to use a lease calculator you can find out exactly what you should be paying.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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I lease a new S Class every 3-4 years and run it through one of my compaies.No headaches,just order a new one,turn in the old one and start the whole process over.It works for me.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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I lease a new S Class every 3-4 years and run it through one of my compaies.No headaches,just order a new one,turn in the old one and start the whole process over.It works for me.
Cool...
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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I have a 2008 4MATIC with AMG that I pay $1700/mo for. Nothing down and 15K/year (which I have exceeded). I will probably buy the car when it comes off lease (so I should have bought it from the beginning.)
I know it's too soon to tell, but unless something else blows me away by the time I'm done with my Lease, I'm already thinking of just purchasing the car. Which means that I would have saved at least $6+K I think had I just done that from the get go.

I guess I can chalk that amount up to the "Luxury" of having the option to just turn in my car at the end of the Lease if I don't want it anymore. I do like the idea of knowing I babied the car, and it's a product of my care, so it'll be better than buying any other Used E-Class.

I Leased because I didn't want to tie up $60K of money into a car. But in retrospect, is it better to keep it in the Bank? I guess it's a piece of mind thing.

Still, I crunched the numbers, and I know, if I would have just bought the car outright, even if it sells for less than it should in 3 years, I probably would still make out with a lower "Monthly Payment" if I split the depreciation cost by month, than I am now. And I worked a pretty good Lease Deal to boot.

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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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I'm a fan of leasing also but everything depends on numbers, not too difficult to figure out the real costs of owning the vehicle for that time.
Although I must say that I was "forced" to buy my CL, the numbers they quoted me on the lease at that time were insane.

There is another plus to lease. In case you total the car or the vehicle is stolen (no recovery), you walk away clean, GAP insurance covers the difference. No loss to you, unless you were foolish enough to put any downpayment
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Marco, if you put a Downpayment on a Lease, doesn't that just get transferred to the replacement car?
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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Marco, if you put a Downpayment on a Lease, doesn't that just get transferred to the replacement car?
Nope. Always put down as little as possible on a lease...
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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Nope. Always put down as little as possible on a lease...
Seriously? That's insane. The Finance Manager told me otherwise (of course) when I did my Lease. And said that it "wouldn't just disappear", i.e would get flipped into the new deal or something.

I've heard some people pay their entire Leases up front, that's quite a risk if that's the case.

I put a decent chunk down on my Lease, because I have this mentality of hating to see a high Payment in front of my face every month, yet when the money is spent, I don't really think of it anymore.

Also, with CA's insane Taxes, lowering the payment does save in the long run pretty considerably.
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by K-A

Also, with CA's insane Taxes, lowering the payment does save in the long run pretty considerably.
In NY (also very high taxes) you pay tax on the total amount of your payments including money down and any rebates. I imagine it is the same in Cali...
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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Yeah. I don't know how they split it, but I know that they Tax you on your actual monthly payment (9.75) here.

For example, for every $3K you'd put on a Lease (at least when I was running numbers on my car), it knocks the *total* money owed on the Lease itself down $600 or so.

Well, I'm just gonna hope I don't total my car.
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by brownbomber
There is absolutely no reason to lease ever. I just got burned for turning my lease in. I went over the miles, and even though my car was Perfect, I still got a couple thousand dollars in physical damages before I was hit with the mileage. I even bought new tires and replaced a cell phone sized crack in the windshield.

My grand total was $6900 to give it back. WTF

I lost and I will never lease again.
Can I ask what company you leased the car through?

I leased through US Bank and found they had a reputation for really piling on the extra charges at lease turn-in. I had many sleepless nights as my lease came to an end and it made me regret not buying or at least going with MB Finance.

As it turned out I paid nothing because I was told by a rep that, in effect, US Bank doesn't pull those tricks in NY, NJ and a couple of other states. Might have something to do with the NYS law that is supposed to protect consumers against frivolous excess wear charges, don't know.

While I don't like selling cars the biggest reason I leased my E63 was the risk of diminished value in case I got into an accident. If you lease, just get the thing fixed by an authorized body shop and you're good to go.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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I've found leasing to be worth it, especially if you're able to write the payments off thru a business. I always end up getting more money for the buck in terms of options, etc., with leasing compared to a purchase.

http://www.TakeMyPayments.com has listings for leases available for transfer.
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