Kerygma

Hello All,
In august i ordered a 2011 S550 with sport 2 pkg pano roof and rear entertainment in dolomite brown. Dealer called today and said car arrived. I went to see it, BREATHTAKING, i am taking delivery next week. While we have not finalized numbers yet the sticker says $111,000. My question is what kind of discount can i push for? Is anyone aware of incentives that dealer might not be willing to share? i would have taken a 2010 but none were available in my area with rear ent, a must for daughter. any help would be greatly appreciated.

skrontz

You definitely took a bit of a risk by not negotiating the numbers in advance; I had the specs and price printed out and signed by the dealership manager before I put the deposit down. I typically go through AmEx Auto Purchasing Program to get an idea of the discount, but looks like they have no information available for MY2011 W221 yet. You can probably try pushing for the invoice, but not sure if they would budge. Depending on how much you put down, they may or may not believe that you can just walk away.

nkole

I believe you could get that car for 11% off MSRP in CA without too much trouble.

Corsa9000

How did you order the car without negotiating a final price? Did you leave a deposit at order time? I hope a refundable one should you not come to terms with dealer.

epasc

My understanding is that in California dealers are not allowed to take nonrefundable deposits on new cars. Is that also true in NJ?

BTW, FWIW, my friend ordered a 2011 GLK in the same timeframe and got 10% off.

emilner

Yikes. To go for a 2011 over a 2010 solely for rear entertainment? Sounds like a $15,000 rear ent system. I would have gone for a 2010 and had a high end shop put a real nice system in for $1000.....

Chucky300

Totally agree with Emilner. If you want a steep discount - you should have purchased an inventory S550 from 2010 MY.

Probably could get $20k off MSRP.

Friends of mine got in on the recent E63 AMG deals at $800 a month lease!

MBtech1098

The other plus is the 2011, 221 & 216's are supposed to get the new twin turbo, direct injected, v8 4.6 liter.

M278

skrontz

Not in the US.

MBtech1098

Yes in the US...was just in training for this.

Scroll down through this article.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-goodness.html

skrontz

He's buying a W221, not a W216. The new engines are not available on W221 in the US.

MBtech1098

I'm aware of what he is buying...the 221 and 216 get the same model refinements....and if the guys at MBUSA don't know what's coming, then that would be rather interesting. As I just recently went through some training on this...we were told that 2011 will see this engine in these two models.

"From autumn 2010 onwards a new generation of gasoline V-engines will be gradually introduced in Mercedes-Benz vehicles starting with the S-Class (model 221) and the S-Class Coupé (model 216)."

Taken from the training manual from MBUSA for the US market.

skrontz

I suspect they're referring to S63. I just was at the dealer yesterday, the MY2011 S550 has the same engine as MY2010.

MBtech1098

Could be...I have not seen any 2011 in our dealer yet, as we have a separate prep dept. But will be on the lookout as they hit our showroom floor.

emilner

2011 has a carryover engine for the 550.

Kerygma

I agree that 2010 would have been a much better deal, not only was the rear ent an issue but the colors and options in our area were not appealing. But what wife wants wife gets. I am just trying to make the most of it at this point.

Believe it or not the car was ordered with no deposit, this is my 5th car from this dealer and we have a great relationship. I just want to make sure im not missing any discounts that the pros on this forum might be aware of. Im confident that i will get it down to $100k but if there is something im missing, id love to know.

Mrkhan347

IDriveAnM5

I'm afraid that most (if not all of us) have no clue as to the October programs for the 2011 - we're only really well versed in the programs from MB-Financial on the 2010 models as they are outgoing. I would say that, if you have a great relationship with your dealer, then there's nothing lost in asking for invoice. In reality, this may be a pretty tough sell. But, in the end, most people who custom order a car from Mercedes usually end up at $1,000 over invoice. Remember, the dealer still gets his holdback cash, which, on an S-Class, is like more than $3,000.

And, with regard to selection, I actually shared your frustration with colors and option combinations. With no offense to our forum members intended, the MAJORITY of cars I was looking at locally (and in 3 surrounding cities) were black/black Sport regular, P2 cars, maybe with a Panoramic roof, and usually rear sun blinds. In my humble opinion, these cars are optioned in a fairly basic manner - nothing exciting - they're like wearing a uniform.

I was put in touch with a VERY savvy dealer 3.5 hours from my home who was able to find me an excellent car at the right price with more options than I wanted or needed, but delivered a very unique car to me - one that I'm fairly confident I won't see matched at the country club or in the office parking lot. If you find the right dealer who can do the homework to get you something special, it's worth the extra drive and trouble, in my opinion. I guess what I'm saying is that if you wanted a 2010, your dealer didn't do the background homework to get you there. Make no mistake, even this late in the model year, there are TONS of fairly unique cars out there. My car was actually shipped in to my dealer from Charleston at no cost to me.

Good luck - start with invoice on your negotiation, settle for maybe $1,000 over.

DCubed

Checking November programs they are not in there yet, the "launch" of the 2011 model was just announced this week and I am sure MBF will have programs for the 2011s coming out very soon but at the end of the day the 2010s will be cheaper to lease and as well all know, cheaper to buy and finance. The dolomite brown should be absolutely amazing on the S and to the OP you have great taste in colors.

MBtech1098

To correct my previous statement...
Just got confirmation that 2011 221 will have the 273,
the 2011 216 will have the 278. In 2012 we will the 278 in the S class.

The training info states it was going to be rolled out in the us this fall, but after speaking with some other MB people, the info was misprinted.

AMGFan3

My dealer called me today and said the 2011 550 is in and come drive it today...and it has the new twin turbo motor. I'll post after I drive it tomorrow!

emilner

Which would be worse in your mind- That your dealer is so clueless that they do not know what motor is in the car they are selling, or if MB was so clueless they accidentally put the wrong motor in the car?

The car has the 5.5L 382hp motor....

AMGFan3

Priceless Emilner! Ya, seeing is believing. I called the another dealer close by and they said the 2011 first batch cars have the old motor, but the newer ones in Nov will have the twiny. I will post after I see it with my own eyes...classic!

44vorpal

Are we talking S or CL?

AMGFan3

Talking S 550. This is good. Dealer just called me back....its the same old motor and now all the good deals on 2010 are gone. Ha!